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 happygolucky wrote:

RogueRegault wrote:

 happygolucky wrote:
I would be interested in what Vetock does if he got hold of the Orks..

I don't think Kelly would do it, as he will probs live in bug- ... erm 'Nid territory but cruddice is another option, but I would'nt know if he would be playing with guard or not again...

I hope we don't get Squigoths, I like my Orks on treads, not on big monsters, similarly I would love to see GW own attempt on the Mega-dredd, not a C+P job of it, but more of a smaller scout Stompa, with Wargear options of either a two handed chainsaw or a oversized minigun, just because that would loom really cool and Orky on the board

No squiggoths would be fine, but I want my boar boyz back.

Meh, I personally don't find the appeal for Squiggoths, they never did interest me along with the snakebite clan..

Now walking hulks such as the Deff Dredd and Killa Kanz (similarly if they made my Kanz better I would be a lot more satisfied with the codex), they are a fine lot, I would love a bigger Deff Dredd that isn't a C+P job of FW design, maube a scout version of variant for the Stompa that is one tough git, and wrecks havoc on its own..

And give it treads, because treads are cool

There's rumours of a new Stompa kit being released next year along with a few other Apoc favourites. So this maybe a scaled down model that would fit with the Apoc rules for 40k that was rumoured a month or so back.

 randomtoaster wrote:

 happygolucky wrote:

RogueRegault wrote:

 happygolucky wrote:
I would be interested in what Vetock does if he got hold of the Orks..

I don't think Kelly would do it, as he will probs live in bug- ... erm 'Nid territory but cruddice is another option, but I would'nt know if he would be playing with guard or not again...

I hope we don't get Squigoths, I like my Orks on treads, not on big monsters, similarly I would love to see GW own attempt on the Mega-dredd, not a C+P job of it, but more of a smaller scout Stompa, with Wargear options of either a two handed chainsaw or a oversized minigun, just because that would loom really cool and Orky on the board

No squiggoths would be fine, but I want my boar boyz back.

Meh, I personally don't find the appeal for Squiggoths, they never did interest me along with the snakebite clan..

Now walking hulks such as the Deff Dredd and Killa Kanz (similarly if they made my Kanz better I would be a lot more satisfied with the codex), they are a fine lot, I would love a bigger Deff Dredd that isn't a C+P job of FW design, maube a scout version of variant for the Stompa that is one tough git, and wrecks havoc on its own..

And give it treads, because treads are cool

There's rumours of a new Stompa kit being released next year along with a few other Apoc favourites. So this maybe a scaled down model that would fit with the Apoc rules for 40k that was rumoured a month or so back.

I like this Rumor... I like this Rumour very much

If they ditched the flowerpot look, I might be tempted...

Aye, keep it bulky but not the cross-dressing vibe... and give it the decorative option of legs and treads to that as well..

 randomtoaster wrote:

 happygolucky wrote:

RogueRegault wrote:

 happygolucky wrote:
I would be interested in what Vetock does if he got hold of the Orks..

I don't think Kelly would do it, as he will probs live in bug- ... erm 'Nid territory but cruddice is another option, but I would'nt know if he would be playing with guard or not again...

I hope we don't get Squigoths, I like my Orks on treads, not on big monsters, similarly I would love to see GW own attempt on the Mega-dredd, not a C+P job of it, but more of a smaller scout Stompa, with Wargear options of either a two handed chainsaw or a oversized minigun, just because that would loom really cool and Orky on the board

No squiggoths would be fine, but I want my boar boyz back.

Meh, I personally don't find the appeal for Squiggoths, they never did interest me along with the snakebite clan..

Now walking hulks such as the Deff Dredd and Killa Kanz (similarly if they made my Kanz better I would be a lot more satisfied with the codex), they are a fine lot, I would love a bigger Deff Dredd that isn't a C+P job of FW design, maube a scout version of variant for the Stompa that is one tough git, and wrecks havoc on its own..

And give it treads, because treads are cool

There's rumours of a new Stompa kit being released next year along with a few other Apoc favourites. So this maybe a scaled down model that would fit with the Apoc rules for 40k that was rumoured a month or so back.

Wouldn't it make more sense, instead of a new mit that is somewhat like an existing plastic kit but a bit smaller, to instead do like the Shadowsword kit and add a couple of new sprues to the current kit and give it more options? Say add 2 sprues to the current stompa with new arms and some extra parts to customize the head. They could add 2 sprues to the Stompa kit, bump the price to $160 to match the newer Apoc boxes, and win, since old players will buy a new stompa for the new options, and new players will be paying the higher price for the new box vs the current $115.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 randomtoaster wrote:

 happygolucky wrote:

RogueRegault wrote:

 happygolucky wrote:
I would be interested in what Vetock does if he got hold of the Orks..

I don't think Kelly would do it, as he will probs live in bug- ... erm 'Nid territory but cruddice is another option, but I would'nt know if he would be playing with guard or not again...

I hope we don't get Squigoths, I like my Orks on treads, not on big monsters, similarly I would love to see GW own attempt on the Mega-dredd, not a C+P job of it, but more of a smaller scout Stompa, with Wargear options of either a two handed chainsaw or a oversized minigun, just because that would loom really cool and Orky on the board

No squiggoths would be fine, but I want my boar boyz back.

Meh, I personally don't find the appeal for Squiggoths, they never did interest me along with the snakebite clan..

Now walking hulks such as the Deff Dredd and Killa Kanz (similarly if they made my Kanz better I would be a lot more satisfied with the codex), they are a fine lot, I would love a bigger Deff Dredd that isn't a C+P job of FW design, maube a scout version of variant for the Stompa that is one tough git, and wrecks havoc on its own..

And give it treads, because treads are cool

There's rumours of a new Stompa kit being released next year along with a few other Apoc favourites. So this maybe a scaled down model that would fit with the Apoc rules for 40k that was rumoured a month or so back.

Wouldn't it make more sense, instead of a new mit that is somewhat like an existing plastic kit but a bit smaller, to instead do like the Shadowsword kit and add a couple of new sprues to the current kit and give it more options? Say add 2 sprues to the current stompa with new arms and some extra parts to customize the head. They could add 2 sprues to the Stompa kit, bump the price to $160 to match the newer Apoc boxes, and win, since old players will buy a new stompa for the new options, and new players will be paying the higher price for the new box vs the current $115.

I know what you're saying, this could happen, but I think i'd see them release a brand new stompa kit, so people will shell out more money to have both, I can see vet players just pick up the extra sprues from a bits store and not bother buying the new box. The shadowsword is rumoured to be a new kit, along with the lord of skulls (which doesn't make sense to me as it was fairly recent that the model was released). The rumour is here, around half way down the page

 randomtoaster wrote:
The shadowsword is rumoured to be a new kit, along with the lord of skulls (which doesn't make sense to me as it was fairly recent that the model was released). The rumour is here, around half way down the page

That's not a rumour of a new Stompa. That's just saying that the Stompa is one of the super-heavies already released in plastic and they think that there might be two more super heavies released next year.

I would venture to guess orks are in early development. It will be a good while before we see out greenskins getting their new book.

Perfect Organism wrote:

 randomtoaster wrote:
The shadowsword is rumoured to be a new kit, along with the lord of skulls (which doesn't make sense to me as it was fairly recent that the model was released). The rumour is here, around half way down the page

That's not a rumour of a new Stompa. That's just saying that the Stompa is one of the super-heavies already released in plastic and they think that there might be two more super heavies released next year.

Completely misred that nevermind! Night shifts addle my brain

I expect neither a Stompa nor a Squiggoth to come with the release.

Instead, I expect we'll get some sort of Looted Wagon (such as the Gutrippa, as Pretre linked on the first page) along with updates to the current range, much like the SM release (with a tank instead of Centurions). I'd also bet on a $30 Weirdboy and a $35 Mek.

rothrich wrote:
I would venture to guess orks are in early development. It will be a good while before we see out greenskins getting their new book.

Based on what? If they are to release 2Q next year Im sure they are well into development.

Just my prediction. It is just a hunch. We have been seeing a lot of 40k this year so I suspect that we will see a lot of fantasy next year. The new edition of fantasy is supposed to be out next year right? None of the rumors I have heard about the orks seem to make any sense to me. They are all very predictable things like "new buggies" and "plastic clampack characters" just obvious things. We do not even know who the writer is yet. If orks were close we should have some kind of info that is more solid. It sounds to me like they are toying with some different ideas but they do not have anything close to a finished product. Again this is JUST A HUNCH but I think we can look for orks in orktober next year.

Fair enough. But I dont see the ork release waiting untilOctober. Granted I have nothing to base that off of as well.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/Product/AlternativeBL/xlarge/2013-12-06%2019.16.57.png

Are these new boyz? look at the nob in the center of the orks there with the bullets on his shoulder pad. Where did that torso come from?

Nah I don't think they are new. I think those bullets are from the lootas kit just bent slightly and glued on his shoulder. I could be wrong though. My knowledge of Ork kits is very limited.

rothrich wrote:
http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/Product/AlternativeBL/xlarge/2013-12-06%2019.16.57.png

Are these new boyz? look at the nob in the center of the orks there with the bullets on his shoulder pad. Where did that torso come from?

It's the second one on the left from the Boyz box, with the kustomizations as Mr. Snrub laid out.

the torso is bigger than a boys. It is also missing that back plate in the second one on the left.

rothrich wrote:
the torso is bigger than a boys. It is also missing that back plate in the second one on the left.

Thats just a nob torso, nothing more than that.

rothrich wrote:
the torso is bigger than a boys. It is also missing that back plate in the second one on the left.

The plate is there, look carefully.

I don't think it's a nob torso; both boyz are 103 pixels tall.

I've built my entire army from boyz and bits, so if theres one thing I know, its what a stock standard Ork boy looks like. And those are stock standard Ork boyz

It is just a regular boy torso, excepting that unlike the other ones it has a shoulder pad on it, plus an ammo belt on top of that, which makes it look taller/bigger (because it now is because of those things).

Somebody get a cloth soaked in chloroform and put this thread back to sleep for bit.

Flashgitz/Tankbustas combo-kit
Meganob kit (Warboss bit included)

I thought these were already covered in the Lootas/Burnaboyz kit.

No.where did you get that from?Lootas could be counts as flash gitz yeah but I don't see any rokkits,bomb squigs or tankhammers for da bustas in there.

Da krimson barun wrote:
No.where did you get that from?Lootas could be counts as flash gitz yeah but I don't see any rokkits,bomb squigs or tankhammers for da bustas in there.

No tankhammers but there are rokkits. I've got a squad of tankbusters I made from them. Lack of variety, I guess.

There is one rokkit launcha as option for the mek in the box, as well as two small missile bits which go into the deffgunz.

Tank bustaz currently have their own metal/finecast kit, which a tankusta nob, three boyz with rokkits, one tankhammer and two bomb squigs.

Tank bustaz are boyz with rokkits, so you can pretty much buy one set and just fill them up with rokkit boyz.

My boyz are lookin fer a new buggy kit rumers is makin me a happy Boss. As for the squiggoth it could be pointed and stated like a battlewagon without the deff rolla lots of people did just that for snakebite battlewagons

Kits aren't really my priority with Orks, as I am perfectly happy building the things there aren't kits for. Not that I don't really love the work they do on the official kits, as I think it's top notch modeling.

What I'm really looking forward to is a more complex, maybe slightly more competitive codex.

What I'm expecting, however, is a gak fest of random charts ala the warp storm chart, but more of them. with more detrimental results.

=(

 matphat wrote:
Kits aren't really my priority with Orks, as I am perfectly happy building the things there aren't kits for. Not that I don't really love the work they do on the official kits, as I think it's top notch modeling.

What I'm really looking forward to is a more complex, maybe slightly more competitive codex.

What I'm expecting, however, is a gak fest of random charts ala the warp storm chart, but more of them. with more detrimental results.

=(

Per your models comment. A cyboar model would be insane looking from the recently release trend.

That said, I have to disagree with you about the gak-ton of tables is to be expected. I dont think there will be more tables than there are now. Orks or very close to being one to the closest to space marines in popularity, and they are also hands down the most fun army to play. Im sure the ramshackle will still be there as well as psychic phenomina... What i am expecting involves like an assault 6 super gun thats strength 6 ap2 that makes you unable to get extra attacks for charging because of how wild it fires, or an axe that allows you to strike at initiative thats AP2... I've got my fingers crossed that weapons that are normally unwieldy (power-klaws) will be able to strike at initiative with things that strike normaly make you initiative 1. I want to see a lance weapon that gets hot on orks (cause armor cracking at range in a shooty edition is missing for orks). I want to stormboys that can cause D3 casualties on themselves to cause a number of strength 8 ap2 hits on an enemy flier... I want to see running and assaulting on the turn you waaaaggghhh to really make the enemy sh#t their pants when they see 120 boyz bearing down on them...

ahhhhh, the magic of it...

I'm liking the rumored waagh point rule. Sounds nice and orky. So it's probably not true

The loota rule sounds interesting, but wouldn't that mean that lootas are now a melee unit? Using a killed unit's weapon when the lootas are 48" away just sounds odd.

How about a weapon at least besides a deff rolla that can hit above s8 consistently? Klaws are nice for the AP2 but cracking landraiders using just the codex is a royal pain.