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I don't believe these rumours. Orks have always had gaps in their model line - from Day 1 Rogue Trader they've had things missing. To finally have models for everything just wouldn't be right. It wouldn't be "proper Orky".

 Billagio wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
All it needs for flash gits and tank bustaz to go in one box is a different set of torsos for each. Nobz in boyz and biker boxes are already done that way. Considering both types models have a ton looted stuff sticking to them, it makes sense to put them in one box.

Yeah but those boxes only have 1 nob torso and the rest boyz. This would be giving 2 sets of different sized torsos and probably arms/legs. That dosent seem likely to me.

The bike box has five boy torsos and two nob torsos on three pairs of legs. A boyz box has enough nob arms to outfit two or three nob torsos. It's not wasting much more plastic than the lootaz/burnaz box. Tankbustaz also have a nob, so it would probably four boyz torsos and five nob torsos.

 Jidmah wrote:
The bike box has five boy torsos and two nob torsos on three pairs of legs. A boyz box has enough nob arms to outfit two or three nob torsos.

Really? I remember the biker box having three boy torsos and one nob torso and the boyz box only having three nob-sized arms (power claw, axe and gun).

I believe that is correct. 3 boy torsos and one nob.

 pretre wrote:
I believe that is correct. 3 boy torsos and one nob.

This is the reason I've always hated the Warbiker box. It only gives you one Nob torso, and only 3 Nob-sized arms (one Power Klaw, one Big Choppa, one holding the bike handlebar). This just sucks. To top it off, the Warbike kit isn't compatible with any of the other Nob kits.

The Nob torso in the Boyz box doesn't fit properly on the Nob biker legs, and the arms are in the wrong position to grip the handlebars. You can use the Nob arm with the Power Klaw or big Choppa on the Warbiker Nob torso, but that's it.

You can't use any of the new Nobs as biker Nobz because for some stupid reason, GW decided to make the Nobz with the legs attached to the torso in a clam-like manner instead of giving us separate torsos and legs. So it's really really difficult to convert a torso from the Nob box to a Biker-Nob, and it's impossible to do this without ruining a perfectly good set of Nob legs... and with the cost of the Nob box, I'd like to keep my spare bits thank you very much!!

The biggest thing that just sucks is that that ONE Nob arm in the Warbiker list grabbing the handlebar is the ONLY Nob-sized arm in the entire line that's posed that way. So if you want a whole squad of Nob Bikers, you're going to need to collect a bunch of these arms from Bits sellers, or buy a heck of a lot of Warbiker boxes. None of the Nob arms in ANY kit are really re-posable into one holding a handlebar.

Murrdox wrote:
To top it off, the Warbike kit isn't compatible with any of the other Nob kits..

I'm not sure what problem you're having but I used two warbiker boxes and two nobs boxes to make 5 or 6 nobs. You get 2 nobs from the warbiker boxes and then 3 or 4 of the 5 nobs in the nobs box fit right on the bikes without any work.

Seriously, nob bikers are the easiest conversion ever.

Perfect Organism wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
The bike box has five boy torsos and two nob torsos on three pairs of legs. A boyz box has enough nob arms to outfit two or three nob torsos.

Really? I remember the biker box having three boy torsos and one nob torso and the boyz box only having three nob-sized arms (power claw, axe and gun).

Huh. After checking pictures of the sprues, I guess you're right. Maybe I misremembered because I got my bikes from the battleforce, which also had boyz sprues. However, one of the big shoota arms in the boyz box is bigger than a regular boyz arm and fits the nob torso nicely. The nob torso also fits just fine on the warbiker legs (which really are just slightly differently posed regular legs), the two torsos from the boxes are pretty much identical, and bits from the nobz box fit on both of those just fine. I have five nob bikers built that way, and didn't run into any trouble at all. The only hard part is making a painboy - I dodged that bullet by just using a regular nob, adding the saw from the nob box, the metal head of a painboy and converting the cybork harpoon thingy from the nobz box into an 'urty syringe.

If you use a little green stuff, you can pose the PK from the boyz box to grab a handle, also some of the sluggas and choppas available can lock a handlebar in place. But seriously, what ork would pick driving safely over taking another weapon along?

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
If Mat Ward writes an' skrews our Codex den I'z gonna make us a new one an' put it on 'ere.

I talked to Matt Ward at Games Day. He isn't writing codices anymore.


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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:


While we'd be left with Vetock, who is rather even handed.

You mean the guy who wrote the Tau codex?

 pretre wrote:

Murrdox wrote:
To top it off, the Warbike kit isn't compatible with any of the other Nob kits..

I'm not sure what problem you're having but I used two warbiker boxes and two nobs boxes to make 5 or 6 nobs. You get 2 nobs from the warbiker boxes and then 3 or 4 of the 5 nobs in the nobs box fit right on the bikes without any work.

Seriously, nob bikers are the easiest conversion ever.

Hmmm maybe I'll have to take another crack at it. Thanks for the info. What do you do about the arm holding the bike though?

Murrdox wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Murrdox wrote:
To top it off, the Warbike kit isn't compatible with any of the other Nob kits..

I'm not sure what problem you're having but I used two warbiker boxes and two nobs boxes to make 5 or 6 nobs. You get 2 nobs from the warbiker boxes and then 3 or 4 of the 5 nobs in the nobs box fit right on the bikes without any work.

Seriously, nob bikers are the easiest conversion ever.

Hmmm maybe I'll have to take another crack at it. Thanks for the info. What do you do about the arm holding the bike though?

Use the boy arms and or cut and spin existing hands. if you're really interested, shoot me a PM and I'll get some close up pics of the dudes I've made. There are some in my gallery, but they are a bit far away.

 DarthOvious wrote:
I talked to Matt Ward at Games Day. He isn't writing codices anymore.

Now that's interesting. Wonder what he's up to instead.

Graphite wrote:

 DarthOvious wrote:
I talked to Matt Ward at Games Day. He isn't writing codices anymore.

Now that's interesting. Wonder what he's up to instead.

Well, he's been doing stuff in WHFB. Wrote the two recent elf books.

 DarthOvious wrote:

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
If Mat Ward writes an' skrews our Codex den I'z gonna make us a new one an' put it on 'ere.

I talked to Matt Ward at Games Day. He isn't writing codices anymore.


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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:


While we'd be left with Vetock, who is rather even handed.

You mean the guy who wrote the Tau codex?

If Orks get what Tau did, they'll be good on their own, but AMAZING as allies.

 pretre wrote:

Murrdox wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Murrdox wrote:
To top it off, the Warbike kit isn't compatible with any of the other Nob kits..

I'm not sure what problem you're having but I used two warbiker boxes and two nobs boxes to make 5 or 6 nobs. You get 2 nobs from the warbiker boxes and then 3 or 4 of the 5 nobs in the nobs box fit right on the bikes without any work.

Seriously, nob bikers are the easiest conversion ever.

Hmmm maybe I'll have to take another crack at it. Thanks for the info. What do you do about the arm holding the bike though?

Use the boy arms and or cut and spin existing hands. if you're really interested, shoot me a PM and I'll get some close up pics of the dudes I've made. There are some in my gallery, but they are a bit far away.

I hate to admit this, but I just said "Eff it" and built my bikers with the regular boyz bodies and a few minor bitz to spruce them up to my liking. When I want to run Nobz, I just say "Those are Nobz" the difference between the two models, in my opinion, is so minimal that it's not worth the effort to make different Nobz. It's not nearly as noticeable as is a regular foot slogging boy next to a foot slogging Nob.

Now, if the BIKE was a different size, I'd be inclined to do the work.

I kind of agree with this. Bulking out boys with bitz and making them flashier is basically what a nob is.

Plus Biker nobs are supposedly slightly smaller than normal nobs if you take some of GW's artwork as canon, which makes sense since a bike can probably only hold so much weight.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
a bike can probably only hold so much weight.

Someone needs to talk to yer meks. This is not the kind of talk I ever want to hear from mine.

If da bozz gets too big fe da bike getz it fixd up wiv trax,

an mor red paint ta keep it qwik, ya seez

 pretre wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
a bike can probably only hold so much weight.

Someone needs to talk to yer meks. This is not the kind of talk I ever want to hear from mine.

Which is why I said bike.

Obviously once ya reach dat point da mek chopz up a wagon and makez dat look like a bike, so 'e don't get krumped by da boss.

 DarthOvious wrote:

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
If Mat Ward writes an' skrews our Codex den I'z gonna make us a new one an' put it on 'ere.

I talked to Matt Ward at Games Day. He isn't writing codices anymore.


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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:


While we'd be left with Vetock, who is rather even handed.

You mean the guy who wrote the Tau codex?

This is the greatest news that Ork players could have

 ntdars wrote:

 DarthOvious wrote:

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
If Mat Ward writes an' skrews our Codex den I'z gonna make us a new one an' put it on 'ere.

I talked to Matt Ward at Games Day. He isn't writing codices anymore.


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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:


While we'd be left with Vetock, who is rather even handed.

You mean the guy who wrote the Tau codex?

This is the greatest news that Ork players could have

Don't forget about Kelly and Cruddace as possible authors too.

Well, I don't have a problem with Kelly giving us another codex which has multiple playable builds across two editions.

I'm just really hoping for some sort lf comedy addition to the Kult of Speed concept. If they don't give us a monstrous warbuggy/warsomething boxset then I'll be astounded. Teleporting warflamers or something daft, eh.

I would give a lot to see any gun/weapon on a vehicle or otherwise that can hit above S8 with any degree of consistency.... shokk gun, Zzap gun, wrecking ball don't cut the mustard. While the deffrolla is a nice s10 weapon some kind of a choice or ranged weapon to hit harder would be nice.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 ntdars wrote:

 DarthOvious wrote:

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
If Mat Ward writes an' skrews our Codex den I'z gonna make us a new one an' put it on 'ere.

I talked to Matt Ward at Games Day. He isn't writing codices anymore.


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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:


While we'd be left with Vetock, who is rather even handed.

You mean the guy who wrote the Tau codex?

This is the greatest news that Ork players could have

Don't forget about Kelly and Cruddace as possible authors too.

Also Vetock write the DA codex and its pretty meh.

 Billagio wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 ntdars wrote:

 DarthOvious wrote:

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
If Mat Ward writes an' skrews our Codex den I'z gonna make us a new one an' put it on 'ere.

I talked to Matt Ward at Games Day. He isn't writing codices anymore.


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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:


While we'd be left with Vetock, who is rather even handed.

You mean the guy who wrote the Tau codex?

This is the greatest news that Ork players could have

Don't forget about Kelly and Cruddace as possible authors too.

Also Vetock write the DA codex and its pretty meh.

I actually liked the DA codex, it doesn't deserve all the hate it gets

I don't think the hate comes so much from people having "personal reactions" or aesthetic/fluff issues so much as the fact it lacks a variety of competitive options. Ravenwing can be a hot list if you don't face a hard counter, but if C:SM can do bikes better anyways, what distinguishes DA?

I would be interested in what Vetock does if he got hold of the Orks..

I don't think Kelly would do it, as he will probs live in bug- ... erm 'Nid territory but cruddice is another option, but I would'nt know if he would be playing with guard or not again...

I hope we don't get Squigoths, I like my Orks on treads, not on big monsters, similarly I would love to see GW own attempt on the Mega-dredd, not a C+P job of it, but more of a smaller scout Stompa, with Wargear options of either a two handed chainsaw or a oversized minigun, just because that would loom really cool and Orky on the board

 happygolucky wrote:
I would be interested in what Vetock does if he got hold of the Orks..

I don't think Kelly would do it, as he will probs live in bug- ... erm 'Nid territory but cruddice is another option, but I would'nt know if he would be playing with guard or not again...

I hope we don't get Squigoths, I like my Orks on treads, not on big monsters, similarly I would love to see GW own attempt on the Mega-dredd, not a C+P job of it, but more of a smaller scout Stompa, with Wargear options of either a two handed chainsaw or a oversized minigun, just because that would loom really cool and Orky on the board

No squiggoths would be fine, but I want my boar boyz back.

RogueRegault wrote:

 happygolucky wrote:
I would be interested in what Vetock does if he got hold of the Orks..

I don't think Kelly would do it, as he will probs live in bug- ... erm 'Nid territory but cruddice is another option, but I would'nt know if he would be playing with guard or not again...

I hope we don't get Squigoths, I like my Orks on treads, not on big monsters, similarly I would love to see GW own attempt on the Mega-dredd, not a C+P job of it, but more of a smaller scout Stompa, with Wargear options of either a two handed chainsaw or a oversized minigun, just because that would loom really cool and Orky on the board

No squiggoths would be fine, but I want my boar boyz back.

Meh, I personally don't find the appeal for Squiggoths, they never did interest me along with the snakebite clan..

Now walking hulks such as the Deff Dredd and Killa Kanz (similarly if they made my Kanz better I would be a lot more satisfied with the codex), they are a fine lot, I would love a bigger Deff Dredd that isn't a C+P job of FW design, maybe a version of mini-Stompa that is a MC and is one tough git, and wrecks havoc on its own..

And give it treads, because treads are cool