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 Boss Salvage wrote:
(...) and one you've pulled off very admirably

At least so far. I'm still not to sure how they will look in the finished product. I guess i'm afraid that those loose chains might somehow destroy the illusion of movement here, but there is only one way to find out.

So painting up these lads has been pretty fast and entertaining so far. Honestly, it's amazing how much progress i've made, considering the time and effort it took to finally finish those pesky rhinos. I guess it really matters how much you actually enjoy the project that you're working on. Who knew?

So, these are the Warriors Three:

Kronk the strong. He's perhaps the most brutish of the trio, having a well-deserve reputation, even among berzerkers, for going in head-first. His reckless fury finally brought him down while charging an enemy battle line. While his body was maimed and broken by the enemy shells, his spirit remained strong and full of anger. When he was interred into the sacrophagus, his first action was to break his chains and crush the med-slaves who saved his life by damning him to this fate. Ever since then, he was at the front of every battle that the Unbound have fought, being broken again and again, but - perhaps through the grace of the Blood God himself - always eventually returning to the glorious field of battle.

Cagemaster Cor-Tharr over here was almost a noble warrior, for world eaters standards, of course. Known for having a high respect for martial prowess and his opponents sense of duty and honor, his fighting skills earned him a fearful reputation in the cages, where there was no other honor to be found. His abilities should eventually be his undoing, as he was drafted into the ranks of the Red Butchers and condemned to a shunned fate among his peers. In the end, he was broken by a siege mortar and found too useful to be wasted. He has done his duty ever since, but it whispered among the tech-servs, that he relishes the periods of incarceration between battle even more that the bloodshed of war itself, redrawing deep within his mind using ancient techniques of mediation and mind-mastery. To this day, he has refused to openly accept the mark of Khorne unto his armored form - but the Blood God cares little for such indulgences, as long as the blood is flowing.

While they have no true leader, Kastos the Redis probably the guiding factor between the three. While Kronk's mind was lost long ago, deep within the Butcher's Nails, and Cor-Tharr is a recluse in the behemoth shell of a dreadnought that seldom raises his voice, Kastos is the most - in a way - balanced of the three. At least he will answer to his commander and even show some tactical understanding beyond his own survival and the quickest way towards the enemy lines. In another life he was part of a rhino's vehicle crew, known for his calm in the heat of battle. On the day that his tank was torn open by some unnamed xenos fiend and his fellow warriors torn asunder before his very eyes, Kastos lost that calm and gave himself into the blessing of the Lord of Skulls. He was slain, of course, but has retained a glint of tactical keenness ever since.

Lore crafting is fun. I really need to write down the broad head-canon, that i've been building for my dudes. Anyway, see you soon.

This is awesome - I had to comment on this post and have been waiting to get the chance.

You've seen the Chaos Space Marine minis in the same way as I always have - a starting point.
Converting them to be unique makes them better models, in a better army, and really fits the fluff.

Waaay back in 2e I was building a Black Legion/World Eaters warband with the same ethos (albeit with much less skill and dedication), with a couple of bespoke converted warlord/champion characters and a bunch of re-posed and re-weaponed rank and file troops to go with them. Sadly, I threw the box with that army in away (I know!).

However, I'm starting again in 8e, building up a Khorne warband. I'll be doing a bit of converting a re-posing (nothing as extreme as you) but hopefully if they look ok I'll put some pics up of how they turned out.

Thanks for the inspiration!

By the way, Khorne troopers in white armour? That's unique, and brave, and actually looks really good.

 RobS wrote:
This is awesome - I had to comment on this post and have been waiting to get the chance. You've seen the Chaos Space Marine minis in the same way as I always have - a starting point. Converting them to be unique makes them better models, in a better army, and really fits the fluff.

Thanks man, it's always nice to hear some encouragement.

However, I'm starting again in 8e, building up a Khorne warband. I'll be doing a bit of converting a re-posing (nothing as extreme as you) but hopefully if they look ok I'll put some pics up of how they turned out.

I can honestly say that i'm looking forward too it. There are never enough crazy conversions out there. It's what makes this hobby great.

By the way, Khorne troopers in white armour? That's unique, and brave, and actually looks really good.

Oh, there are a few white khornate armies out there. The World Eaters used to wear white plate, back before they fell apart as a legion.


Small progress post here.



The boys are coming along nicely. Hopefully i'll be able to finish them this weekend.

And here we are! If every project would be as fast and as satisfying as this one, i would probably see a lot less sunlight. Well, not everything can be a bother. This really was fun.

I've already posted some fluff to these guys earlier on, i'm trying to get away from the the usual world eaters bio stuff - he's a bloodthirsty berzerker and likes to kill things with his axe and he also collects skulls and he does other berzerker things. Ugh, so boring! No, i wanted these guys to have some character without moving too far into gary stu territory. So, let me know how you feel about that, since i'm trying to get a story together for the warband as a whole.

Alright, picture time!





Kronk seems like a fun guy to be around.





Kastos was really the most work, conversion wise. I'm not all that satisfied with the dark angel on his base, he's just too dark on his pictures, and there are also some splotches of blue on his front that i have overlooked. Well, maybe another time.





Kor-Tharr is probably my favourite out of the three. He's not so much a clear copy of Vincent Huson's Hellblade and the Leviathan head came out a lot better than expected. I just can't shake the feeling that the spike on his forehead looks very much like a drop of blood, but, eh, maybe he spend a little bit too much time with the sons of Baal, who knows?


Next up: Some firepower. I need to win games from time to time, dammit!

I've been trying to decide if dreadnoughts fit the ethos of a Khorne warband or not. These look great, you may have convinced me.

Seems to me a way for a warband to carry heavy shooty weapons without slowing them down. A dreadnought can't drop his gun to get into melee, while the rest of my guys might!

 RobS wrote:
Seems to me a way for a warband to carry heavy shooty weapons without slowing them down. A dreadnought can't drop his gun to get into melee, while the rest of my guys might!

I've spend a lot of time thinking about this.And while the sons of Angron obviously like to get into CC, the need for anti-tank weapons is pretty obvious, at least if you are playing outside of friendly, clearly non-competitive games. On the fluffy side, i like to think that most (or some) World Eaters are not the fanatical mob they have been often depicted as, that gleefully will run into a barrage of gunfire to be torn into pieces. That's just dumb. I don't like to play dumb or act dumb. These men are warriors, and being a warrior means looking at situations from more than just one perspective, unless you want to give your enemy the advantage.

So, coming back to the Helbrute, i think they are possible platforms for heavy weapons, but far from ideal ones. You want them to move and to be menacing, to draw fire from the enemy that would otherwise rip open those precious rhinos. Also they have to stay moving making their okay-ish shooting just plain average. I think they are far better at being melee tank hunters, with their cheap D3 weapons and their non-diminishing profile.

Having said all that, i feel a need for a heavy weapons platform myself. Gun lines, if led by a competent commander, are a tough nut to crack and usually my troops will end up in a bottleneck where they will simply be mowed down. And while i'm perfectly fine with losing a game, it's a different think to lose all the time. Besides, there are worshippers of Khorne, even World Eaters, who prefer carnage from a far over carnage at close range. They are not as numerous as the chainaxe-crowd, but they certainly exist.

So. I'm doing a Leviathan. The greatest challenge here is that the HH-designs look very organic and unadorned, while the Ferrum Infernus boxnoughts look, well, exactly the opposite. So my first goal was to take away some of that round organic feel, and make him more hunky. Also to add a trim over the most obvious pieces of his armor, so that he can look somewhat similar to the Warriors three.



I went with a mobile, advancing pose, added in a greenstuffed head of a boxnought because i really like the look of them and an ogre gutplate because they always look spiffy.



Here are some details that will be added. The cover of the sacrophagus had the traditional bunny ears added to it, can't have a warrior of my warband without it - except for those who obviously can't use them. The other is a chain of skulls that i will drape around his "neck" - or the closest thing i can find to it.

So, fun times. And i look forward towards adding some menacing weaponry to this bad boy.

Another week, another update.



The big boy is coming together quite nicely. Doing the baroque framings on his carapace worked out far better than expected. I used small strips of plastic card and put them into hot water to make them more flexible before sculpting them over the armor. Gut plate on his groin is from some poor ogre, the chains beneath the plate is from the CSM terminator lord kit, if i'm not mistaken.



Other details had to be done the more traditional way, with layers of green stuff. I feel like i'm getting better at this, but still, the piece above especially stands out to me, since it's really uneven. But the more organic sculpt of the leviathan is actually really uneven (or, you know, organic) in a lot of places, so i really struggled to sculpt these maws on the lower leg part. I figure they will do.



My new big thing on this project are rivets. Those little black orbs you can see all over the framings? They are tiny balls of glass, from Green Stuff World. Great stuff, really, but a pain to handle.



More rivets on the leg. It takes time, planing and steady fingers to put these into their place, but at this point, i really like how it's coming along.

So long people, see you soon.

I think that's probably the best World Eaters Leviathan conversion I have seen so far! Excellent choice of head, too -- that piece really is great for all kinds of Khornate walkers, isn't it? Works really well on a Contemptor, too -- just sayin'...

 KrautScientist wrote:
I think that's probably the best World Eaters Leviathan conversion I have seen so far! Excellent choice of head, too -- that piece really is great for all kinds of Khornate walkers, isn't it? Works really well on a Contemptor, too -- just sayin'...

That means a lot, especially coming from you. Without going all fanboy on you, let me just say that i wouldn't be posting these miniatures without you. Your outstanding work has been a source for inspiration and encouragement for years now and i really couldn't imagine a higher praise. And yes, that head really is great for just about anything Khorne-related. It's a shame they had to throw out the old Boxnoughts.

Now, lets post some progress:



Here he is right before getting primed. I was really concerned that the rivets would just fall off at the first uncareful touch, but primer and paints helped out with that.



Base layers. Ugh. But it needs to be done.



Shades are down, now i'm fixing up my mistakes. The amount of detail on this guy really takes up a lot more time that i imagined.

I've been quietly enjoying this build from the shadows, I think he's solidly one of my favorite Leviathans I've seen, especially a Chaos Leviathan. While I like the solidity of the standard model there's definitely a level of ornateness / grimdark eevil for me when it comes to seeing these in Chaos armies.

Oh, interesting to see the rivet-balls in action, I saw those the other day and wondered.

 Boss Salvage wrote:
I've been quietly enjoying this build from the shadows, I think he's solidly one of my favorite Leviathans I've seen, especially a Chaos Leviathan. While I like the solidity of the standard model there's definitely a level of ornateness / grimdark eevil for me when it comes to seeing these in Chaos armies.

Thank you, again, at least it was worth the effort. Looking at the BA Leviathan that came out recently (he might be conversion fodder for my ECs, if i ever get back to them), i can at least see a chance for specialized Legion Leviathans in the future. Nevertheless, it think it's a missed opportunity, given the frequency that i come upon chaos leviathans in the past. You would think that a more evil-ish model would manage to sell.

Oh, interesting to see the rivet-balls in action, I saw those the other day and wondered.

It takes a bit of getting used to, but they are probably the best way to do rivets. To be honest, i originally bought them to be used as nurgle-ish pustules, but never gotten around to it. Nevertheless, they are a pretty neat tool for many conversions.



So, i have finished most of the higher base layers, and have gotten into most of the smaller details. Just got done with the sponging before taking this picture. There is still a lot of cleaning up do to, but the girlfriend just left me alone to do my hobby-things. I have aprox. eight hours to myself, lets see how far i can take this one!

 VyRa wrote:
lets see how far i can take this one!

Pretty far, it turns out.

So after spending some time thinking about the nature of this model and considering how empty his guns look at this time, i figured it would be a good time to try out some muzzle burn effects. It would only serve to enhance the, shall we say... frustrated nature that a Berzerker who is forced to mostly shoot at his targets would probably possess.



And well, it's something. Not really at that happy with it. I went a tad overboard with the blue and the paintjob is just a little too flat for my taste. It looks like paint, not like something that head would do to a barrel. But at least i managed to learn a few important things. Lesson one: Airbrush > shades. Lesson two: I really, really need purple-ish and blue-ish metal colours. Lesson three: It's actually not that much work, i might do this more often. Nevertheless, it works and i intend to keep it this way.

And then... it really didn't take much longer to finish this bad boy!













What can i say. This was my most ambitious project to date and i think i managed not to ruin it in every imaginable way - so that's good, right?

Joking aside, it was an very intresting experience and a way to try out a few very important and useful new techniques. The leviathan by itself is a great model and really a lot of fun to pose and build. It's impressive what a great range of motions the dreadnought can display, given his rather massive chassis. Looking at my work, i can confidently say that i'm getting better and better at using greenstuff and especially on doing the more ornate trims, that is so typical for chaos armor.

Oh my, yes. That is a glorious leviathan.

Yeah, nice job on the walking box.

With the muzzle burn I think you're right about too much blue, but still looks good. It still works in the assembled pictures, and doesn't come across as just paint.

Thanks guy, it's always nice to get some appreciation.

So, new week, new project. I got tired of dragging the old chaos sorcerer around and calling him an Dark Apostle. And since i can't much stand the current Dark Apostle (he's tiny!), i decided to build my own!



Started out with the upper body of a Chosen from the Dark Vengance. Always like the pose of this guy, holding his helmet. Chaos doesn't get much of those more natural poses. But, well, i didn't like the helmet, i didn't like the head and i didn't like his legs (and the scaling, again, he's tiny!) - so they all had to go! I did like his mace, buuut, i also had these amazing chaos weapons from Kromlech lying around and i just couldn't resist putting them to good use. Just look at that mace, it was made to be used by a Dark Apostle!



I used the legs of an old WHFB plastic general, had these in storage for ages, and used a bit of plastic pipe to elongate his mid section so to give him more realistic proportions. Also put a Berzerkers helmet in his arm, because, well, World Eaters, right? Put his base together from some cork clippings in a hurry, but it works out pretty good. Still need a lot of gaps to fix, though.



Added the head of the cataphracti preator (i think) because of that nice snarl and mohawk. Good stuff. Also put a few cables on him to add a bit of sci-fi to the fantasy bits that i've used. I tried to add a kind of world eaters icon on his mid section, letting those cables shine through. It's a bit rough, but i think it'll come together once he's primed. Also adding a pistol and a few small bits here and there that you can see on the right.



Finally i added some skulls and a head to his base, a piece of cloth and an icon of khorne to his waist and the backpack too. There is just some sand missing and he's good to be primed. Pretty fast job so far, it took me about three hours to build this guy. Feels nice to do something, well, fast once in a while.

Been following your progress on all of your dreadnoughts and they're all brilliant!

I really like the start of your Dark Apostle and I look forward to what's next!

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Been following your progress on all of your dreadnoughts and they're all brilliant!

I really like the start of your Dark Apostle and I look forward to what's next!

Thanks man!

So, i didn't spend all that much time on the Apostle since i have a game coming up tomorrow. Here's a quick show of progress:



Quick baselayers, no details yet.



First shades, work has started on the smaller details.



Finished with the upper layers, started with the wear & tear, highlights are next.



And here's the finished product! As usual, his face is kinda meh, but hey, i wanted a quick project after the vehicles that i've put out in the last few months. Really satisfied with the pose and proportions on this guy. Cool stuff. Also enjoying that chaos mace. So he's a bit crude, sure, but i don't think that matters all that much to the Blood God.

That's great. I imagine lots of people end up converting a Dark Apostle as the GW model isn't great.

Strangely, just spent the evening making a start on my own. What do you think? I shamelessly stole the horn idea from KrautScientist!

 RobS wrote:
That's great. I imagine lots of people end up converting a Dark Apostle as the GW model isn't great.

Strangely, just spent the evening making a start on my own. What do you think? I shamelessly stole the horn idea from KrautScientist!

Pretty good stuff there, buddy. The terminator legs look a bit clunky compared to his lean upper body, but a proper paintjob will fix that. It seems like there is still a but of sprue hanging from his chin, you should fix that. In any way, keep me posted. There are never enough fluffy khorne conversions in this dark galaxy.

Anyway, i figured it was time to pick something off the ole pile o' shame and found this little box.



I wonder what's inside...

You gave the game away by mentioning Daemon Prince in the thread title! Can't wait to see what you come up with!

With my DA I am hoping that it won't be screamingly obvious that his legs are terminator armour once painted. His upper body is massive - he's probably Primaris scale.
I have a WIP thread on Bolter and Chainsword but I haven't made much progress yet!

 RobS wrote:
You gave the game away by mentioning Daemon Prince in the thread title! Can't wait to see what you come up with!

With my DA I am hoping that it won't be screamingly obvious that his legs are terminator armour once painted. His upper body is massive - he's probably Primaris scale.
I have a WIP thread on Bolter and Chainsword but I haven't made much progress yet!

Dang, looks like i gave it away a little too easily. And i get what you mean, they old CSM terminator legs are clunky to the max. Have you thought about giving tartaros terminator legs a try? I have made some good experiences with them in the past. The upper body is probably the slaughter priest, right? Those guys are just HUGE. Too massive even for true scale marines. I'm thinking about doing a squad of Possessed with those giant bodies, all roid-raging and stuff!

And i have to admit, Creature Caster is some next level stuff, probably the cleanest casts i've ever seen. Little to no flash, minimal warping in the parts, a couple of bits to add additional character to your monster... it's great.



And here he is. Went with a sword and claw combo so that i won't miss out on those DttFE attacks. The wings are really massive, but what really strikes me are the realistic proportions that i've only seen on FW sculpts this far.



The wings were the trickiest part of the whole miniature, i had to pin then in a couple of places - just to be safe. There were a couple of gaps there that i had to fix, but vallejo's plastic putty did the trick, as usual.



The whole model already had a pretty khorny vibe to it, all muscles and skulls and stuff, but it all just felt a bit generic to me. So i added an ikon of Khorne to his right shoulder.



And since he was a World Eater, once, i also added the mark of the Legion to his left shoulder.

I'll prime this guy as soon as possible, if i can take a break from rolling out christmas deco. Also have a shiny new airbrush to try out, so i hope that i'll make some fast progress here.

See you soon.

Beautiful mini, love CC's stuff. Excited to see where you take it

Love that model. Just out of interest, how big is it? Like, how does it compare to the GW daemon prince and bloodthirster minis?
I have no plans to include a Prince as yet but I do want a bloodthirster (Arbra'Gax, as it goes). Might be a good 'counts as'?

Boss Salvage wrote:Beautiful mini, love CC's stuff. Excited to see where you take it

Thanks man, i really have to say, the quality of the sculpt and the detail of the cast really help a lot with paintjobs like this.There are so many details that simply come to shine with rather simple techniques like shading and drybrushing. It's almost... fun. Ha!



I went with the classical brass & red combo. Painted the big daemon heads for the base in pink and turquoise, because Slaanesh and Tzeetch suck. I only gave the broader details a quick stroke of white. I'll add more details if i'm done with the skin, because of the aforementioned techniques, there is just no point in painting single horns or spikes at this point.

RobS wrote:Love that model. Just out of interest, how big is it? Like, how does it compare to the GW daemon prince and bloodthirster minis?
I have no plans to include a Prince as yet but I do want a bloodthirster (Arbra'Gax, as it goes). Might be a good 'counts as'?

I don't have the new Bloodthrister at hand, but i'll arrange a size comparison for my next pictures. Didn't read your post in time for this one, but they're coming. If you'd force me to take a guess, i would say he's a tad smaller than the current bloodthirster, but mostly thanks to the fact that he isn't flying but standing on his little scenic base. But there are multiple khornate sculpts over at CC and i'm pretty sure this guy is the smallest one of them. So the others should be a pretty good match for a Bloodthirster.



Here's a shot of his back and wings. Gave him a few quick streaks with the airbrush and added a thin shade. Looks pretty good already.

Next up: More shading!. More drybrushing!

Great progress Also had no idea those heads were on that base

Alright Gents, what a week it has been, time for another update.

The holiday season is keeping me busy, so i didn't make that much progress. Still, if everything will go according to plan, i'll have this bad boy finished until the end of the year.



After finishing the washes i'm now working through the layering and highlights. A lot of detail also means a lot of highlights, so it's time consuming, whodathunk! I also decided to paint the Legion icon in chrome, to have it stand out more - i'm pretty certain that this model has enough brass on it. Also started with the horns & bone spurs and gave his eyes a shiny black coat. He looks down right demonic now, with those black peepers, i'm tempted to just leave them like that.



I've tried out a few new techniques with the wings, mostly involving the ole brush-o-air. I tried putting layers of shade and airbrushed highlights over each other to give the skin a nice organic and natural flavor. It came out pretty well, but it doesn't show all that well on these pictures, i'm afraid. So just take my word for it: It looks pretty sweet. I'll finish up the wings with a very, very careful drybrushing with hot orange.



But first, it's off to finish that tasty brass. After the stuff from last week i added a layer of reikland gloss shade to make it, well, glossy. Right now, i'm going through the motions, going up from dark bronze towards a more golden tone and finishing that off with highlights in chainmail. It'll look smashing, i'm certain of it.

And, almost as an afterthought: Here's the size comparison i had promised.



Creature Caster's Lord of Slaughter next to a Leviathan, Cultist, Be'Lakor, CSM and FW's Khorne DP. Just grabbed a few models on hand, i might have to get my hands on a few un-converted models if the opportunity opens up for pictures like this. As you can tell, he's actually the same size as the FW DP, plus the base and wings, of course.

And speaking of afterthoughts! The first leaks for Chapter Approved 2019 came through this Friday, and man, what a blast. Cultists are more expansive now, but pretty much everything else got cheaper. Especially daemon engines. And since i've been planing my projects for 2019 in the last weeks and months, i can now confirm, that 2019 will be the year of the daemon engine for me. I'll convert two Mauler Fiends, two Heldrakes and (maybe) three Defilers. Love me some big beasts with lots of details and lots of opportunities to let my mad lust for conversions run wild.

See you soon.

 VyRa wrote:
And since i've been planing my projects for 2019 in the last weeks and months, i can now confirm, that 2019 will be the year of the daemon engine for me. I'll convert two Mauler Fiends, two Heldrakes and (maybe) three Defilers. Love me some big beasts with lots of details and lots of opportunities to let my mad lust for conversions run wild.

YESSSSSSS

It's like Chapter Approved is paving the way for the Dark Mechanicus that FW is finally starting to tinker with ...

In the meantime, beautiful progress on those wings and all that brass in particular. Lovely tone you've got going on.

That looks awesome. Totally.

Now I'm mulling over WHEN I get a Bloodthirster, which one to get. I do like the GW one (I think the FW is too much and too bulky, I like the leaner more dynamic look of the GW one), but some of the Creature Caster daemons would be a pretty good 'counts as'.

Ho hum, decisions...

 RobS wrote:
Ho hum, decisions...

Those are the best kind of decisions, though! With the new reduction on Bloodthirsters, i'm pretty certain i will get me another, bigger model from CC. They are just great.

And here's my progress so far: Almost finished with the brass and the skin. Might give him a slight glaze with hot orange on his body parts, i feel that another layer of thin highlights won't hurt.



Also finished with the eyes, although i might bring it all a bit more together with a slight black and blue shade.

I focused mostly on the blades, going for a very dark, almost ice-like look, that i've used before on the Khorne Daemons that i painted back in.... 2014 i think.





I'm very happy with the blade itself, the teeth and eyes on it are obviously still very much work in progress. I'm not happy at all with the transition between the skin and the blade itself, it just doesn't look very organic right now. Might add a few layers of shades and glazes there. We'll see.





And the sword, just like the blade on his left hand, looks very promising. Again, the very deep structure of the mold does most of the work for me. Nevertheless, it's just a pleasure to paint it.

In the next few days i'll finish the horns, spikes and teeth. I'll also put some work into the eyes, but i'm not certain if i'll be able to finish them, given that i plan to pay quite a lot of attention to every single one of them.

Looks like i haven't done stuff in quite a while.

Get yourself a job and family, they said, it'll be fun, they said.

Oh, well.

So, i saw the kits of the Lord Discordant and the Venomcrawler and thought to myself: "Those legs look awfully similar, i wonder what would happen if you threw those kits in a blender..."
And if you have asked yourself the same question, wonder no more. The answer is: Complete madness!



Also used a Blood Warriors torso in there and gave him a couple of arms to keep himself busy. I wasn't so sure what head to go with, so i painted a FW head and one from the new (is it still new?) CSM kit.



The result is pretty okay-ish for me. Not the standard that i usually strive for, the blacklining is patchy, the highlights flat and not-too-subtle. Also quite a few mould lines that i overlooked can be found in the close ups. It's nothing great, but man, the conversion was fun. With CA coming out next week and Disco Lords only getting cheaper (at least if you're taking the flamer), we'll probably continue to see quite a few of them. Maybe this will inspire some folks out there to convert their own and mix up the look of armies out there. I love chaos, it's just such a great army for conversions and kit bashing.