40K: New Death Guard - Video + Pics!

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**Kanluwen**

It honestly looks like the weapon on top is a kind of "slimethrower".

But the dozer looks like a Vindicator not the Rockgrinder. Having built a Rockgrinder, it looks like a weird amalgation of the two.

**Roknar**

I didn't mean the blade itself, I meant the whole design. There doesn't seem to be any opening to the blade either. Like it's just a turret that shoots from behind and over, which would fit the slimethrower description.
Is there anything that resembles this in epic 40k?

**Rosebuddy**

These guys look promising enough. I do wonder how they'll continue the scale creep, though.

**Bi'ios**

Those models are all fantastic. I won't be buying any besides Mortarion (cause Primarch, I don't care if he lives on my shelf), as I don't play Death Guard, but they really are great, especially those cultists.

**Manchu**

I wonder if Mortarion will be part of a Triumvirate box or a stand alone like Magnus? As a daemon Primarch, I suppose he could be as big as Magnus.

**jreilly89**

I will absolutely buy Mortarion, so damn cool

**ImAGeek**

Manchu wrote:
I wonder if Mortarion will be part of a Triumvirate box or a stand alone like Magnus? As a daemon Primarch, I suppose he could be as big as Magnus.

Yeah he'll be big, doubt he'll be a triumvirate.

**Th0a**

mmmm, nurgle. A mate just did an awesome job on a mk2 landraider that i brought years ago off ebay for my HH DG, it was a piece of hot garbage, he's turned it in to an awesome nurgle landraider and then the next day this gets announced! And there I was worried I'd have nothing to put in it! Grand Father Nurgle provides for his children

**AndrewGPaul**

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Absolutely, there is a good rational to why GW have done this 'clean' paint scheme, and I get it. It also fits in nicely with their tutorials and their shift to a painting ethos of base, shade, highlight, which I believe has been their whole approach to making and selling paints for younger customers these past 5-6 years.

Hasn't "base coat, shade, highlight" always been the way? I've got a painting guide from 1990 that follows those steps.

More importantly, it means you can clearly see all the bits of the miniature. I'm not a fan of the heavily weathered look of a lot of Forge World's Heresy Death Guard, because the weathering obscures the shapes of the model underneath.

**timetowaste85**

Bi'ios wrote:
Those models are all fantastic. I won't be buying any besides Mortarion (cause Primarch, I don't care if he lives on my shelf), as I don't play Death Guard, but they really are great, especially those cultists.

Agreed. Morty, like Magnus, is getting bought to go on shelf. As will every dameon primarch they drop on us.

**stewe128**

If ya look closely on one of the photos there's the handles for some nurgle biker action. Oooooooo

**Loopstah**

So are we guessing May then for release? If April is Shadow War and AoS sky dwarves.

**andysonic1**

stewe128 wrote:
If ya look closely on one of the photos there's the handles for some nurgle biker action. Oooooooo

I think that's just another termi.

**Hive City Dweller**

aracersss wrote:
the more I see it ... the more I get the impression DG might get a vehicle or something else

Very interesting.

These definitely appear to be death guard specific tanks. Seeing as GW don't make art for models that do't exist, I'd be willing to bet we'll be seeing these as part of the release. It also makes sense as DG have a heavy "armored" component to their lore.

I think there's probably some kits/models that were purposely left out of the preview, not just Mortarion. Here's hoping that this actually comes through!

**Verviedi**

Hive City Dweller wrote:
. Seeing as GW don't make art for models that do't exist,

Please, you're going to make me start crying again.

**DarkStarSabre**

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Something else has been bugging about these new Death Guard and I've finally got to the bottom of it: GW has recycled the paint scheme from an old White Dwarf! the swine's!

One of the advantages of having a vast collection of WD magazines is that you can take GW to task if they try and cut back on creativity.

White Dwarf, 347, December 2008, has a painting guide for a Nurgle Chaos Warrior's lord on mutated steed.

It's a nice scheme, and there's nothing wrong with re-using it, but if GW think they can catch me out, they can think again.

And with the new paints we've had since 2008, I'd expect more ooze, not a re-hashed paint scheme

To be honest, that paint scheme has been my go-to for my newer Death Guard army since conception.

Hell, that White Dwarf is practically a treasured possession. I have pots of mixed paint as a result.

**Darth Bob**

I don't really...get...the complaints of these Death Guard being too mutated. Like, Death Guard are the Space Marine poster boys for horrible growths, nasty mutations, and other gross stuff erupting from their bodies. Like, saying a Nurgle model is "too mutated" is like saying an Ork looks "too brutish." Like, what were you guys expecting from Nurgle Marines, exactly?

**Jackal**

I'm just hoping GW do what they do best and throw out a super heavy.
A plague tower would be wishful thinking though, right?

**DarkStarSabre**

Darth Bob wrote:
I don't really...get...the complaints of these Death Guard being too mutated. Like, Death Guard are the Space Marine poster boys for horrible growths, nasty mutations, and other gross stuff erupting from their bodies. Like, saying a Nurgle model is "too mutated" is like saying an Ork looks "too brutish." Like, what were you guys expecting from Nurgle Marines, exactly?

There's a difference between being bloated, with innards spilling out, boils and exposed wounds (such as with the FW upgrade kits) and comically sharp toothed random mouths, random horns everywhere and rat tail tentacles.

One's a very specific, thematic type of mutation that meshes very well with the Death Guard's whole aesthetic. The other is just random and pointless.

**Clanan**

DarkStarSabre wrote:
There's a difference between being bloated, with innards spilling out, boils and exposed wounds (such as with the FW upgrade kits) and comically sharp toothed random mouths, random horns everywhere and rat tail tentacles. One's a very specific, thematic type of mutation that meshes very well with the Death Guard's whole aesthetic. The other is just random and pointless.

Well the first describes sickness and contagion whereas the second describes actual mutation. Aren't those the two sides of the same Nurgley gurgley coin?

I've never played 40k but if 8th edition is anything like AoS I'll definitely be grabbing these Death Guard. So awesome.

**Darth Bob**

DarkStarSabre wrote:
Darth Bob wrote:
I don't really...get...the complaints of these Death Guard being too mutated. Like, Death Guard are the Space Marine poster boys for horrible growths, nasty mutations, and other gross stuff erupting from their bodies. Like, saying a Nurgle model is "too mutated" is like saying an Ork looks "too brutish." Like, what were you guys expecting from Nurgle Marines, exactly?

There's a difference between being bloated, with innards spilling out, boils and exposed wounds (such as with the FW upgrade kits) and comically sharp toothed random mouths, random horns everywhere and rat tail tentacles.

One's a very specific, thematic type of mutation that meshes very well with the Death Guard's whole aesthetic. The other is just random and pointless.

Going to have to disagree there. If anything, spilling innards, boils, and open wounds is overdone and doesn't properly portray the tainted mutation that a mortal would undergo after prolonged Warp exposure. They shouldn't just be zombies wearing Space Marine armor.

**DarkStarSabre**

Darth Bob wrote:
DarkStarSabre wrote:
Darth Bob wrote:
I don't really...get...the complaints of these Death Guard being too mutated. Like, Death Guard are the Space Marine poster boys for horrible growths, nasty mutations, and other gross stuff erupting from their bodies. Like, saying a Nurgle model is "too mutated" is like saying an Ork looks "too brutish." Like, what were you guys expecting from Nurgle Marines, exactly?

There's a difference between being bloated, with innards spilling out, boils and exposed wounds (such as with the FW upgrade kits) and comically sharp toothed random mouths, random horns everywhere and rat tail tentacles.

One's a very specific, thematic type of mutation that meshes very well with the Death Guard's whole aesthetic. The other is just random and pointless.

Going to have to disagree there. If anything, spilling innards, boils, and open wounds is overdone and doesn't properly portray the tainted mutation that a mortal would undergo after prolonged Warp exposure. They shouldn't just be zombies wearing Space Marine armor.

That is literally what they are though. Every description of them goes down that line. Every description of them is as literally walking dead, immune to pain, bloated and their armour distended and warped to be like flesh.

It's almost like Nurgle has very, very specific tastes and patterns in his gifts.

**Bi'ios**

DarkStarSabre wrote:
Darth Bob wrote:
I don't really...get...the complaints of these Death Guard being too mutated. Like, Death Guard are the Space Marine poster boys for horrible growths, nasty mutations, and other gross stuff erupting from their bodies. Like, saying a Nurgle model is "too mutated" is like saying an Ork looks "too brutish." Like, what were you guys expecting from Nurgle Marines, exactly?

There's a difference between being bloated, with innards spilling out, boils and exposed wounds (such as with the FW upgrade kits) and comically sharp toothed random mouths, random horns everywhere and rat tail tentacles.

One's a very specific, thematic type of mutation that meshes very well with the Death Guard's whole aesthetic. The other is just random and pointless.

I mean, aren't both of those things, separately and combined, part of the Nurgle scheme? Plus, the Plague Marine kit allegedly has the bits to make both varieties of dudes, so that honestly sounds like an effort to please multiple parties interpretation of Nurglish (Nurgilite?) Plague Marines.

**CMLR**

I like NL the most, but I do like stuff from evey Chaos god here and there.

Now; I can't see why this can't have something for AoS.

I'm not saying it has to have an AoS use, but I can easily see those cultist mutants as the light infantry for Rotbringers, if the weapons and googles are available as optional assembles.

Of course I could be wrong, but it'll be nice if it happens.

**Hive City Dweller**

While I understand the concern about these being "overdone" with mutations, over-the-top thematic detailing is the norm for GW, especially of late with the crisp digital sculpts. (Seriously, I can't think of one release since 2015 that hasn't had overbearing amounts of detail) I rather like the look; it's a far cry from the bland aesthetic of the now ancient CSM plastic kit. This is a concerted effort to show what a few millennia in the warp and exposures to plagues and illness do to the astrates.

You can always trim off those tentacles I suppose, but Papa Nurgle won't be all too pleased.

**Crimson**

If they're too chaosy for one's liking, it shouldn't be too hard to kitbash them with the normal mark III kit to produce a more subdued look.

**Clanan**

DarkStarSabre wrote:
That is literally what they are though. Every description of them goes down that line. Every description of them is as literally walking dead, immune to pain, bloated and their armour distended and warped to be like flesh.

Apologies for the tangent but this is not quite right. The second encounter with Nurgle in the Horusy Heresy series, in Flight of the Eisenstein includes

Spoiler:

**DarkStarSabre**

Clanan wrote:
DarkStarSabre wrote:
That is literally what they are though. Every description of them goes down that line. Every description of them is as literally walking dead, immune to pain, bloated and their armour distended and warped to be like flesh.

Apologies for the tangent but this is not quite right. The second encounter with Nurgle in the Horusy Heresy series, in Flight of the Eisenstein includes

Spoiler:

the complete mutation of a space marine into the Lord of Flies creature.

That is a very specific case - as a general description the Plague Marine being bloated, dead and impervious to pain is still the way I prefer them. I prefer the odd contradiction of 'clean' and dirty in the same model. Now if you want to strap on tentacles galore and extra mouths and tongues slathering all over the place...

Slaanesh is thataway.

**H.B.M.C.**

Darth Bob wrote:
I don't really...get...the complaints of these Death Guard being too mutated. Like, Death Guard are the Space Marine poster boys for horrible growths, nasty mutations, and other gross stuff erupting from their bodies. Like, saying a Nurgle model is "too mutated" is like saying an Ork looks "too brutish." Like, what were you guys expecting from Nurgle Marines, exactly?

Just as long as the kit can do "clean" Death Guard (as clean as Plague Marines can get, that is) and the super-mutated/possessed/Chosen Death Guard then that's fine. Everybody wins... unless the box has 5 models, in which case we mostly lose.

**DarkStarSabre**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Darth Bob wrote:
I don't really...get...the complaints of these Death Guard being too mutated. Like, Death Guard are the Space Marine poster boys for horrible growths, nasty mutations, and other gross stuff erupting from their bodies. Like, saying a Nurgle model is "too mutated" is like saying an Ork looks "too brutish." Like, what were you guys expecting from Nurgle Marines, exactly?

Just as long as the kit can do "clean" Death Guard (as clean as Plague Marines can get, that is) and the super-mutated/possessed/Chosen Death Guard then that's fine. Everybody wins... unless the box has 5 models, in which case we mostly lose.

Yeah. 5 models would suck. And make squads of 7 pointlessly expensive in actual money. That would potentially hamper my plans to buy a box of the new Plague Marines and a box of Possessed to mix up to create a Possessed squad.