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 Infantryman wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
I had two Griffins I purchased when I first started playing back in 2000. They were the metal/plastic hybrid GW kits. A number of years later someone claimed I was using Griffons "to win" because of their slightly OP FW rules, and that I wasn't even using an "official" model. Apparently they didn't know about Griffons being a GW box kit originally. I know that the FW rules were overpowered a bit, but I think the perception of it was worse than it was.

Whatever happened to Griffons, anyways? Not in FW, not in Codex. Where they in 7th?

They were in FW for 7th, but since they've been discontinued for some time...I didn't expect to see them come back.

 Kanluwen wrote:


They're Heavy Bolter Tarantulas, mind you.

They any good? They have cool models but I never could figure why one would field a stationary item like that.

They're cheap ways to flesh out a FOC at low points without being a dick. They're also kind of fluffy for a regiment that's specialized in cityfights and things of that nature, since Tarantulas can be kicked out of Valkyries and 'seeded' in advance of the various firebases and the like.

I enjoyed mine. Once I figured out they were <Regiment> though, it got a bit funnier since they could be Cadian Tarantulas and get rerolling Hit Rolls of 1s if they stayed stationary...which, since they're Immobile, is pretty easy to achieve.

Ah, didn't know about the Valk bit - might pick a couple of these up...

 Infantryman wrote:
Ah, didn't know about the Valk bit - might pick a couple of these up...

Bear in mind that's fluff related stuff...no rules related to it at the moment.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
That said, I think we should ban all miniatures. Evidently, GW has no idea how to balance, so we can't endanger balance by allowing their miniatures at tournaments. Tournament games should now be settled by the players without the intervention of miniatures. Players will now be able to defeat one another through Greco-Roman wrestling. Use of external weapons not allowed. Going naked and slicking your body up with oil is optional but recommended for the sake of historical accuracy (aka the fluff) and balance.

You are joking but 8th ed actually is moving game toward where actual models on table is less and less important so apart from wrestling thing things are already headed that way!