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 Formosa wrote:
And the cartoonification of 40k continues...

Uh huh. Starting with the original Rogue Trader in 1987. 40K has never been anything but cartoonish.

 Formosa wrote:
And the cartoonification of 40k continues...

What did he mean by this?

 jake wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
And the cartoonification of 40k continues...

Uh huh. Starting with the original Rogue Trader in 1987. 40K has never been anything but cartoonish.

What you say?

Am I dreaming?

The imperials are wut? Is that a ninja assassin? A doberman pincher? vs. Flies? Giant Fleas? I'm sold.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I don't quite understand the grievances about the models being cartoony.

I mean, the first edition of Warhammer 40k, Rogue Trader, was quite cartoony by today's standard, and in lore Rogue Traders are a bunch of flamboyant merchants and adventurers.

40K has undergone significant variance as to how cartoony the models are and the art work is. It varies between different years, as well as between different games and different races within any particular year. I have generally prefered the less cartoony approaches, so it surely seems legitimate for me to voice this reguadless of where on the cartoony scale the first edition of 40K lies.

Personally, though I dislike the cartoony approach, I am not actually that big a fan of grim dark. I generally prefer a combination of the less gothic cleaner asthetic of 30K with a down and out (rather than grimdark) approach of Necromunda. In this reguard thematically this box fits pretty well. My problem with these models is what appears to me as exaggerated features, a bit like the pumbagor had but too a lesser degree. That said, I do not own any 8th edition models and so perhaps it is all down to the paint job.

Nothing about these strike me as being particularly cartoonish.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Nothing about these strike me as being particularly cartoonish.

i think its the same old giggling nurgle = cartoonish that'd been throwing around sine 8th revealed.

Nice figs.

But Nurgle again?!!
Come ooooon....

Chopstick wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Nothing about these strike me as being particularly cartoonish.

i think its the same old giggling nurgle = cartoonish that'd been throwing around sine 8th revealed.

I would agree. Was very exited to hear about new Nurgle stuff, until it came out... They need a LOT of work to be usable for me.

The worms and fleas are fine but the big guys are way too silly.

T

Those armsmen would look terrific as Knight household troops. If only Knights had an infantry option.

The whole thing looks like a baroque hodge podge of John Blanche sketches.

I love it!

I'm getting a Deathwatch Killteam vibe from this and we all know what that brought to the table...

Bring on the Lost & the Damned and Rogue Trader codex's!

LordShaft.

At the very least, my Imperial Guard finally get a Regimental Mascot.

A space Doberman.

I've heard a couple of suggestions that the gribblies are infected by the Slaugth, not Nurgle. I'll wait for the Warhammer Community announcement.

Fantastic stuff


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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
I've heard a couple of suggestions that the gribblies are infected by the Slaugth, not Nurgle. I'll wait for the Warhammer Community announcement.

Good point

Wonder if this will prove to be an expandable game? Not that that factors into whether or not I'm buying this. Because I am. Ain't nobody gonna stop that from happening!


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Also, props for at least four, probably five wimmins in the set.

You've got the Medicae, the Assassin, the veiled Bucaneer (that I suspect is the Rogue Trader), the Soldier pointing the laspistol (zoom in, long hair), and possibly the one with Laspistol and Shotgun (definite androgynous quality. Not sure if lady lumps in the tunic, or just the angle of photo).

And I think there's at least one possessed/zombie female,

I want that command group. The rest is a bonus.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Nothing about these strike me as being particularly cartoonish.

The paint job IMO

Guys, I am sure somebody pointed this earlier, but still...

There is absolutely no indications that these are NURGLE miniatures.

Firstly, there is absolutely ZERO chaos/nurgle symbols or iconography. The only markings I've found so far were far from chaotic (look at the shoulder):


Also one guys has fish literally stuck to his butt, but nurgle hasn't shown any actual animal on the miniatures so far.


Also the black "swarm" things look completely alien to nurgle design and look more like alien species rather than daemonic:


Also the whole level of cybernetic augmentations is beyond what we have seen so far. The only bionics on nurgle miniatures are found on poxwalkers in the form of cybernetic hands.



While the overall color scheme and aesthetics certainly have nurglesque vibes (especcialy flies), but my bet is that this is completely different faction.
And the cybernetic heads on "nurglings" and "poxwalkers" are certainly here to obfuscate the true origin of these guys.

I like the look of this, the only models I'm not keen on are the big guys as others have said. Perhaps a grimier paint job would suit them though.

Slaught infestation may be?

The Slaugth possess a mastery of biomechanical technology and elemental physics which exceeds that of mankind and perhaps even the Eldar. Among their more mysterious capabilities is the capacity to travel interstellar distances without making use of the Warp. Many of their devices are actually grown or augmented pseudo-living machines which blend both flesh and metal in a functional symbiosis. Their weapons and artefacts appear as products of warp craft to the uninitiated. This keen and terrible grasp of the biosciences allows them to grow entire armies instead of training them. Their array of constructs can be adapted to serve as guards, spies and even as labourers.

And it certainly looks more like the works of the Haemunculus Coven more than the warp mutations.

Yes, my bet is Slaught.

Thus sounded interesting at first glance, but those figures are really doing nothing for me. Lots of generic, repetitive chaos figures, and a few uninspired "rogue trader" miniatures. It's says a lot that out of everything, that dog is probably my favorite figure.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Would anyone be sad if those troopers were a sneak peak at a IG redo?

I thought this straight away- think this maybe a sneak peak of what we're going to see in next months white dwarf?

 mdauben wrote:
Thus sounded interesting at first glance, but those figures are really doing nothing for me. Lots of generic, repetitive chaos figures, and a few uninspired "rogue trader" miniatures. It's says a lot that out of everything, that dog is probably my favorite figure.

There is certainly no repetitivenes, nor chaos in those figures.
Paint scheme is here to cover the truth.

If you paint tyranids in death guard colors, will they be "repetitive chaos figures" for you?

I am nurgle adept since 2000, and I trust my guts. These are no nurgles.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
First, the models are fekking lit.

Second, I really feel like this could have been rolled into Necromunda seamlessly, I hope they release rules for these in N17

No. Nope. Stoppit. Uh-uh.

"40K stuff" needs to stay far, far away from Necromunda. The more "40K stuff" they add into Necromunda, the less the setting feels like Necromunda. I'm not interested in playing Hive World: The Game of Big Damn Heroes Slaughtering Inferior Mook Gangers. Most Rogue Traders wouldn't even deign to set foot on the planet, and of those that did 99% would never leave the top sectors of the Spire - the vanishingly rare narratives in which a Rogue Trader might actually descend into the Underhive themselves(rather than just telling their Seneschal to handle it and them hiring a facilitator to hire a broker to bribe a House noble to call in a favour with a gang Boss to send a pack of his minions to do whatever it is the RT wants done) are best handled with fan rules or just Counts As.

There are already seemingly more genestealer and chaos cults per-capita on Necromunda than anywhere else in the galaxy, if they start chucking Rogue Traders and Inquisitors(and god forbid sodding Space Marines) etc etc in there as well we'll end up in a situation where playing an actual gang from the Necromunda setting is a rarity when actually playing the Necromunda game.

If they want to make Kill Team mechanically similar to Necromunda but in the 40K setting, I am 100% up for that. If they want to make a series of WHQ-style board games featuring weird and sinister locations and odd 40K minifactions, super. But leave the Necromunda rules for the Necromunda setting.

Fantastic! The non-Imperial faction looks kinda like Nurgle space pirates to me. I wonder if this is a corridor-based version of the new Kill Team rules, similar to how the new Necromunda has two ways to play (corridor-based and 3D battlefield).

I share the split opinion of many others:

Love the models, and will pick this up for them alone - especially the Rogue Traders themselves and the Nurgle grubs and flies.

...but another set of skirmish rules? It does seem a bit much..Which of these will they support? Which of these will quietly die (looking at you SW:A)?

The last box was Imperium vs Xenos

Imperium vs Chaos is the overriding narrative of the entire game.
Imperium vs Xenos is the secondary narrative.

I'm happy to see them revisiting more old "forgotten" parts of the game, and while the Nurgle stuff is less exciting (which I say as someone actively building a Nurgle army) I'm ok with it.

 Fan67 wrote:
Slaught infestation may be?

The Slaugth possess a mastery of biomechanical technology and elemental physics which exceeds that of mankind and perhaps even the Eldar. Among their more mysterious capabilities is the capacity to travel interstellar distances without making use of the Warp. Many of their devices are actually grown or augmented pseudo-living machines which blend both flesh and metal in a functional symbiosis. Their weapons and artefacts appear as products of warp craft to the uninitiated. This keen and terrible grasp of the biosciences allows them to grow entire armies instead of training them. Their array of constructs can be adapted to serve as guards, spies and even as labourers.

And it certainly looks more like the works of the Haemunculus Coven more than the warp mutations.

Yes, my bet is Slaught.

I was going with Enslavers, but this makes sense to me.

Everyone's talking about Nurgle but I'm noticing a serious Tzeentch vibe here as well with all the claw arms and random mutations going on. Odd given that those two are usually opposed. Also, no Khorn elements?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
I am hoping that the models get 40k rules as well - Shadespire models got AOS rules.

I don't expect this to be a Shadespire tbh.

This really does seem to be a Silver Tower styled deal.

Silver Tower models got AOS stats as well