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 schoon wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
 schoon wrote:
Could be that they were cut to ensure an already high cost didn't climb any higher.
I doubt the casting costs make up a significant portion of the consumer price.


No, but more small, thin, intricate bits means bigger chance of mis-cast and bigger chance of having to be re-done.

Labor is almost always a bigger portion of cost than materials.
Maybe. Seems like it's already a pretty expensive set for what you get (even compared to FW's typically high prices, the BB booster packs are cheaper for 4 infantry models compared to only getting 2 Vultures). I think the most likely thing is they decided they'll release the other variant separately or as an add on to make more monies.
   
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GLORIOUS!!!

Resin kit though.

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That's a lotta thrusta and dakka!

   
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Yeah, but is it enuff dakka?

Of course not!
But still, it’s a good first try.

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Hmm, I’m a bit “meh” on it.

It’s good to see some heavy aircraft, but not loving the aesthetics at first glance, the proportions seem a bit wonky. Also at first glance the firepower doesn’t actually seem that great.

In the current rules there’s no real reason to have a big bomb like that, every ground target only has 2pts of structure points. The rules for bombing unfortunately favour using fighter bombers, but maybe they’ll update the rules.

Also resin, and no Remoras yet?

It’ll be good to write scenarios around I guess. With 10 pts structure it can be a viable target for a scenario.

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I expected T'au not Orks would get something next...
   
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Cozy cockpit of an Imperial Knight

Damn, only one reply for that beast:
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My Imperial Guard Crusade force plog

Featuring tanks, (not) Mordians and the odd greenskin.


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THAT THING IS fething DOPE!!!!!!!

why is it that Orks have the best looking range in Aeronautica?
with every release they're becoming more and more my favorite in the game.
   
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Nice, gives me hope for the Sokar stormbird or the harbinger bomber! Not to mention the Manta!
   
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Yeah, too bad it's resin. I wonder if GW will just stop releasing plastic kits for AI and the future releases will be FW only. It would suck if that's the case - I don't enjoy building small resin aircrafts the same than plastic ones for sure. And also that will mean we may expect the next release in D3+1 years, 'cause of FW's messy release calendar.
   
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The specialist games are all the same; core kits are plastic, exotic kits are resin. It likely reflects healthy sales, but sales perhaps not great enough for GW to let them put exotic/one off models into plastic.

It might also just be because its FW run and they've got the skills and kit. Plastic has come a long way, but resin still beats it for some fine detail and certain shapes.

I just hope we get more xenos. Tau and Orks are in, its time for Eldar and Tyranids!

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I generally don't mind resin for infantry type models. Vehicles it's nice if they can be plastic. Though that triple boom layout has the potential to be a nightmare in resin (trying to get everything lined up when the parts are all slightly warped).

I wonder if the base is accurately shown to scale (looks photoshopped in, and is pointing the wrong way). If it is then this thing looks to be about 7 inches wingspan. The Eavy Bomber is currently the biggest wingspan model at about 4.25 inches.

Dislike the way they put the bomb at the rear of the aircraft. Heavy loads on aircraft are always put somewhere near the centre of gravity and centre of pressure so that the balance doesn't get thrown off when the bomb is dropped. Just looks wrong having a big bomb so near the tailplane.

If two tiny little Vultures cost so much from FW, I'm a little bit scared to see how much this thing will cost.


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Would been great if Ork got another plastic fighter, make use some of their toys like zzappa, mega kannon and teleporter.

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Chopstick wrote:
Would been great if Ork got another plastic fighter, make use some of their toys like zzappa, mega kannon and teleporter.


I think what they need is a transport aircraft. They already have a light fighter and a heavy fighter, perhaps some more weapon options would be good, but a proper transport for scenarios would be nice.
   
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Chopstick wrote:
Would been great if Ork got another plastic fighter, make use some of their toys like zzappa, mega kannon and teleporter.


I think what they need is a transport aircraft. They already have a light fighter and a heavy fighter, perhaps some more weapon options would be good, but a proper transport for scenarios would be nice.


An ork equivalent to the stormraven would be nice. Transport, heavily armed gunship in plastic. Hell if you wanted to continue to flying battle wagon build philosophy you could give it a melee weapon, let it charge stuff with fly. (or a swooping attack like the old flying monstrous creatures.)
   
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That is a monstrous aircraft!

Not sure how to use it correctly, but I'm sure the "know wots" will come to me eventually!
   
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cody.d. wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Chopstick wrote:
Would been great if Ork got another plastic fighter, make use some of their toys like zzappa, mega kannon and teleporter.


I think what they need is a transport aircraft. They already have a light fighter and a heavy fighter, perhaps some more weapon options would be good, but a proper transport for scenarios would be nice.


An ork equivalent to the stormraven would be nice. Transport, heavily armed gunship in plastic. Hell if you wanted to continue to flying battle wagon build philosophy you could give it a melee weapon, let it charge stuff with fly. (or a swooping attack like the old flying monstrous creatures.)


They should have something like the Caestus Assault Ram

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I'm not sure it's really much bigger than a 'eavy bommer or a grot bommer. The tail seems a bit longer and it's a bit wider because of the double engines on the wings, but it would be interesting to put the miniature next to a 'eavy bommer to see how really big it is.
   
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Sarouan wrote:
I'm not sure it's really much bigger than a 'eavy bommer or a grot bommer. The tail seems a bit longer and it's a bit wider because of the double engines on the wings, but it would be interesting to put the miniature next to a 'eavy bommer to see how really big it is.


I mentioned in my previous post, if you trust the base size is to scale, then it’s about 7 inches wingspan, compared to the Eavy bomber which is about 4.25 inches. So it’s quite a bit bigger. The fuselage looks very similar to the Eavy Bomber, but it’s not the same, so I think the fuselage is actually beefier.
   
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How The feth are we supposed to put anything on the board near this thing tho?
   
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Dats da hole plan! See you gotta think smartz to win big!



Or perhaps bigger planes means bigger boards are in the future. Plus the more they flesh out each line the more chance there is that with a detailed air and titan game they might flesh out some tanks and infantry

   
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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
How The feth are we supposed to put anything on the board near this thing tho?

They said it includes a custom flying stem to allow it to sit higher than other planes
   
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Oh man wait until they made the Manta.....
   
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Chopstick wrote:
Oh man wait until they made the Manta.....


I don’t care how expensive that will be, it’s going to be an auto buy. And probably the size of a 40k Valkyrie..,

This beautiful Ork monstrosity is very tempting for the time being.

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*All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.
 
   
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 Jadenim wrote:
Chopstick wrote:
Oh man wait until they made the Manta.....


I don’t care how expensive that will be, it’s going to be an auto buy. And probably the size of a 40k Valkyrie..,

This beautiful Ork monstrosity is very tempting for the time being.


If memory serves, the Manta is a bit over twice the span of the Tiger Shark, so at this scale maybe 8" wing span. A bit bigger than the Mega Bommer, but not massively so, and a couple of inches smaller than the 40k Valkyrie.

If you look at pictures of the old Manta from AI, the scale increase is roughly the same as the base size increase (both the scale and the base size increased by 1/3), so it should give a rough idea how big a Manta is going to be in the current scale.

I wasn't and still am not a big fan of the increase in scale for AI, it's okay for the fighters but the bomber aircraft just get a bit silly. The Mega Bommer is going to end up occupying every hex around it and some, the Manta is going to be even worse.
   
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more than 3 times it seem, 5, 6 times with the modern sculpt
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It's hard to tell with the perspective, but that certainly doesn't look 5 or 6 times to me, maybe 2.5-ish times, which isn't too far off my original estimate of "a bit over twice".

Otherwise we use the fluff wingspan of 52m, and AI is roughly 1/200 to 1/230 scale, which would put it between 9 and 10" span.

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Holy crud, that thing's big!

Big Meks were working overtime!
   
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Thanks for the picture, indeed it's way bigger !

Now I wonder about the stability of the model with just one peg to make it stand...My own 'eavy and grot bommer tend to lean forward already.

About the space it takes on the board, the rules state you can remove the miniature from its base if it's a bit too crowded when they are too close.

I still think this size of aicraft is more suited to a special scenario than a random mission, but it can still be fun either way.
   
 
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