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See the problem is you are being given a product and saying it's bad because that product isn't more, for the same cost, for the same production time. You aren't criticising the product, you are whining that you didn't get more stuff. I'm not saying to be happy with whatever you get, I'm saying to base an opinion off the product being a different product is ridiculous. It's like being given a hamburger and whining that you didn't get a steak for the same price. You're saying that GW should re direct efforts towards other projects, like you somehow know more about their sales, design, and business than they do.

It's pretty obvious to me that you have little respect for the effort that goes into producing a product like this, so I'll leave you to whine on my ignore list while the rest of us actually have fun. Enjoy being unhappy with the same stuff we are enjoying.

Meh, just not the time for a major release or big rule change.

Hopefully next year will see just that for undead when it gets more attention.

Sure. Get GW to hire me and put me in charge of the Age of Sigmar team and I'll be happy to oblige

You could always make a fan-made Battletome like Mengal miniatures did.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Their allegiance ability has them disembarking onto the battlefield from spectral ships , sounds pretty pirate to me. What's funny though is how people say GW is hostile to conversions, then they release rules that are perfect for converted armies and that's bad too.

The rule fits a pirate aesthetic, if you aren't creative enough to make your army do so as well that's on you. Honestly I think it begs for converted spectral ships used as Mortis Engines or Coven Thrones, a Captain Morgan style wight king, necromancer as a ship's surgeon... and that's off the top of my head.

Edit: Undead parrot bat swarms!

Oh, epic ideas!

If I went for undead pirates i'd definitely be eyeing everything from Freeguild to Overlords for conversion material as well as Stormcast birds.

Though I'd likely go for Reverent Legion pirates rather than vampires as I want this guy leading my scurvy dogs.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bYUEwxDzO7w

TK carrion painted as parrots for dire bats, and skeletal crab cavalry; pose them facing the longer side of an oval base since they run sideways. I need to go look for miniatures now...

One thing that baffles me. How have they not ripped off the Ice Wraiths of Game of Thrones to make a new undead faction of supernatural cold zombies. I would cancel my beastclaw raiders plans and make that my next AoS project for sure. (way later on after Khradron of course).

It simply baffles me. Especially with how hot the property is right now it's time to strike while the anvil is cold.

That would be awesome. You could even turn it on it's head and have the Frozen Dead be the kingdom trying to repel the Beastclaw's advance on their great wall in whichever Realm you set them.

(Good pun. )

Well Krell is in the icy wastes of the realm of death...if he makes a return with a new release then it's hard to see it not taking that direction.

Privateer ought to go double down on their undead pirates then in response.

Nothing wrong with some rivalry for our hobby dollars!

Pre-orders are up and there's something I would like to note down:



Sounds familiar that symbol?



I MAY be mixing things, but it does ring a bell to me.

Indeed, I think GW is using all this as foreshadowing.

I mean unless there's lore about the vampire pirates and local undead forces using a dragon as a symbol that's a pretty big change from Death's usual motifs.

Yeah that looks like the same creature. But the one on the cards is more dragon like...which is kind of boring. I liked the idea of a winged leech or some kind of abomination or something a little more bizarre than a limbless dragon...I guess you could call that a wyrm? The skin color on the arm and dark scheme overall points to shadowkin, death or some kind of sinister faction.

 Thargrim wrote:
Yeah that looks like the same creature. But the one on the cards is more dragon like...which is kind of boring. I liked the idea of a winged leech or some kind of abomination or something a little more bizarre than a limbless dragon...I guess you could call that a wyrm? The skin color on the arm and dark scheme overall points to shadowkin, death or some kind of sinister faction.

Maybe (IF they are the same thing), that's the full grown version (and stylized depiction of said full grown version... as someone said about certain Mitchell and Webb video: no one wants to march under the banner of a rat's anus.) and we saw the baby.

That or it's just mixing up stuff.

That looks like they copy-pasted the Vampire Counts symbol from the TW:W faction.

I don't know if CA used existing GW art for it, but it looks almost exactly the same, rather than an indication of something new.

Have any Blood Dragon models had that as a shield relief?

 Eldarain wrote:
Have any Blood Dragon models had that as a shield relief?

I dont believe so. They had plain surfaces for painting if I recall.

Anyone seen anything on firestorm being playable with grand alliance combos other than one of each?
Only seen the BoW review and it's not clear if it's set up to allow 2 destruction players and 2 order players as the four participants.

 Carnikang wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
Have any Blood Dragon models had that as a shield relief?

I dont believe so. They had plain surfaces for painting if I recall.

The Blood Dragon on Winged Nightmare had a sculped shield with a similiar symbol. It had two wings though.

 Hanskrampf wrote:

 Carnikang wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
Have any Blood Dragon models had that as a shield relief?

I dont believe so. They had plain surfaces for painting if I recall.

The Blood Dragon on Winged Nightmare had a sculped shield with a similiar symbol. It had two wings though.

That's the sigil that the Blood Dragons had for their shields.

The sigil that Total War is using comes from the Blood Knights:

It shows up in lore about Blood Keep and the Templars that got turned.

Lady Atia has posted a review of Age of Sigmar: Firestorm.

Dang, that's a lot more stuff than I expected!

The Greywater ability is cool(and pretty much as Bob predicted ).

Really all this stuff from the recruitment descriptions to the Freeguild fluff really makes me want a battletome so, so much. Or at the very least a novel about a extensive military operation like the Imperial Army series.

Very interesting... I am definitely looking forward to this, I'll have to see how difficult it will be to change the number of players around for a league.

There were blood dragon vampires with a symbol just like that on their shield. I can't find a picture at the moment, but I own one of them.

This is pretty cool:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/





I tried it out and managed to create the moving underground hamlet of Far Grey, inhabited by humans, sylvaneth and dwarves...

Phoenix Fang, the sprawling mobile metropolis (don't ask me it's magic) of the Aelves complete with mysterious plague (could it be travel sickness? nobody knows as the Aelves guard their secrets well)

That is very neat, not to mention old school!

Nice.

My dice are dull, though. I created the town of Silver Bane in Ghyran inhabited by Dwarfs, Sigmarines, more Sigmarines and Trees And it houses a Sigmarine Stormkeep. Nothing to see hear, lots more interesting places for you to be.

Neat little table there. I may have to use it for some of my D&D settings (but skipping the "Realm" section).

Candle Fyrd in Ulgur, I know feth all about the many realms, so this could be either good or bad for its human inhabitants.

Sooo

The name of the city is Regal Tower a twin city based in shyish and Chamon, It's a sprawling Metropolis. It's inhabited by Aelves, humans, Stormcast Eternals and Seraphon.

It's a legendary location, it was a site of a great battle (looking who lives there not a surprise) and the people are master craftsmen. Of course the city has an underground darkling covens cult and it also has a scourge privateer sea port. The city also has an arcane forge and a great armoury.

Pretty neat.

Hmm, the city is created over the site of a great battle against chaos in control for a realm gate that connected shyish and Chamon, the people decided to create many huge towers to house various races even the Slaan having built a tower for the seraphon for unknown reasons. Due to their aid in the battle none questioned it but strange aelf sorceress also aided in that battle instead of creating a tower they went underground there are whispers of aelves and humans vanishing in the night. The scourge privateers and their fleets prowl the waters crushing the chaos navy that came to attack from sea earning a place in the city. Due to being great craftsmen the Aelves and humans along with the help of the slaan and the stormcast eternals crafted the towers to ward away the dead of shyish. Perhaps this place might be used as a launching point into Shyish and Chamon? Only the gods know.

You can get some funny names out of the generator if you're German.

Pretty
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