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 Segersgia wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Here's the two side-by-side:

Thanks for doing this, I wanted to see them both face to face. It confirms my suspicions - Drazhar is noticeably smaller than Jain Zar, I'm not sure why that is and I'm not sure I like it.

It's the hair. Jain gets like 2 heads taller because of it.

Jain also had her foot fully extended and jumping, whereas Draz is standing with his feet apart.

Just looks like an Incubus. There's nothing that really makes him stand out as a special character. He could be a squad leader and no one would ever know unless you told them.

I mean he's fine, but there's nothing about him that screams "Special Character".

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
Its a slight shame its a little trickier than the older 'every limb is separate' way, but they generally look better. And yes, its related, but you can keep arguing all day if you want

Your basic point is "Oh how terrible it must be to have all the options in your kits!", which no one is arguing about, for or against. Hence, non sequitur. Get it yet?

Maybe Jain Zair will die and Lilith will put on her armor . Then we won’t need the failcast Lilith anymore.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Segersgia wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Here's the two side-by-side:

Thanks for doing this, I wanted to see them both face to face. It confirms my suspicions - Drazhar is noticeably smaller than Jain Zar, I'm not sure why that is and I'm not sure I like it.

It's the hair. Jain gets like 2 heads taller because of it.

Jain also had her foot fully extended and jumping, whereas Draz is standing with his feet apart.

Yea I get the pose and the hair factor in but just as models Jain's profile is significantly larger. Her hair and spear alone are like 1 and a half Draz and he has the back fin things and horns giving him a lil extra height anyway. She just looks imposingly larger to me, but it might just be me.

In that comparison moccup I think Jain Zar just looks bigger. I mean. T H I C C. Look at the torso and the legs and compare them with Drazhar. I have no problem with that but normally GW don't do models in different sizes for the same race (All normal humans are the same size, all eldar, all tau, etc...), so here it looks a little off. But maybe thats because of the moccup and in reality they are more similar in size.

 Segersgia wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Here's the two side-by-side:

Thanks for doing this, I wanted to see them both face to face. It confirms my suspicions - Drazhar is noticeably smaller than Jain Zar, I'm not sure why that is and I'm not sure I like it.

It's the hair. Jain gets like 2 heads taller because of it.

It isn't the hair. It's width, not height. Her thigh is encroaching on the size of his torso.

Drazhar’s base is larger, I reckon.

Drazhar is hunched over whilst Jain Zar is in a full stretch, so of course he looks smaller.

I really like Drazhar. Maybe more than I should, but I really dig that model and the new Incubi.

Dread Master wrote:
Drazhar’s base is larger, I reckon.

I matched the bases by height as well as width, so it's unlikely.


From that side-by-side, Jain Zar's arms and legs do look slightly chunkier than Drazhar's, but some of that might be just photo angles. Although Drazhar always was a slender chap.

 Imateria wrote:
Drazhar is hunched over whilst Jain Zar is in a full stretch, so of course he looks smaller.

And if the issue was that he was shorter, that might matter. But top of the head to crotch, they're pretty similar in length (not including horns OR hair).
But her width at the abdomen, thighs and even arms is noticeably larger than his in the same areas.

I'm pretty sure that originally the Phoenix Lords were bigger than the other Eldar models of the era.

 insaniak wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
Drazhar’s base is larger, I reckon.

I matched the bases by height as well as width, so it's unlikely.


From that side-by-side, Jain Zar's arms and legs do look slightly chunkier than Drazhar's, but some of that might be just photo angles. Although Drazhar always was a slender chap.

Kind of at a loss then. If it is as you say, she is noticeably... larger.

Stop being jelly of thicc Craftworld girls.

http://static.diary.ru/userdir/1/1/6/0/11604/86480284.jpg

Dread Master wrote:

Kind of at a loss then. If it is as you say, she is noticeably... larger.

She always was, though. I just dug out the original models to check - And Jain Zar was slightly taller and definitely not as slender as Drazhar, and she's a full head taller (even ignoring the hair) than a regular Banshee.

really don't like the size difference

I wonder if there are many overweight craftworld Eldar. I imagine that excessive eating, like excessive anything, would be looked at with some great suspicion. On the other hand, I'm sure there are some incredible tasting foods created by those on the path of the chef or whatever, and an eldar could easily end up indulging in all the different tastes they could discover. Maybe there is a path for that, where you just taste everything there is to taste and get it out of your system or something.

Im sure when we see them in the flesh they will be about the same size body wise. Judging from separately taken photos isn't gonna cut it for me.

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
I wonder if there are many overweight craftworld Eldar. I imagine that excessive eating, like excessive anything, would be looked at with some great suspicion. On the other hand, I'm sure there are some incredible tasting foods created by those on the path of the chef or whatever, and an eldar could easily end up indulging in all the different tastes they could discover. Maybe there is a path for that, where you just taste everything there is to taste and get it out of your system or something.

Let's head that off at the pass, lest we revisit the silliness that accompanied the Celestine release. There is nothing 'overweight' about any of the models previewed so far.

I'm not sure I understand what the problem is here. Could it be possible that Jain Zar is simply taller, and proportionally larger? I'm 6'2 and it's not super rare for me to encounter women who are a similar height and proportionally very similar to me, if not taller.

Sure, this isn't often very well represented in miniatures. But I don't see it as a problem if it is.

So thats it.
When is the next part of the campaign due?

 Fayric wrote:
So thats it.
When is the next part of the campaign due?

No, based on the September FAQ article, there is still some discussions to go yet before the next part. Presumably it will be mission reveals etc.

"On the topic of Psychic Awakening, we’ll be ramping up our previews of the first book in the series – Phoenix Rising – over the next couple of weeks, so be sure to check back with us regularly for more news." This was only posted last week so if we take 'couple' literally there'll be something next week.

I'm gonna have to replace his swords because they just look silly. The base is also a bit much, but overall Drazhar looks pretty solid. In the lore he's described pretty much as basically just a Klaivex - all I really want now is an Incubi Hierarch HQ choice.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Just looks like an Incubus. There's nothing that really makes him stand out as a special character. He could be a squad leader and no one would ever know unless you told them.

I mean he's fine, but there's nothing about him that screams "Special Character".

I think they should have focused on making his armour look much more ornate, rather than just covering it with gaudy bling.

the_scotsman wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The 1KSons Terminators are like pretty much all the previous regular Terminator kits (with the exception of the BA Assault Terminator box). Any torso can go with any legs can go with any arm can go with any shoulder pad. The Plague Terminator kits have no such options. There are 5 bodies, and those bodies will always be the same (one with the Nurgling, one that's mutated into a fly with the tiny arms, and so on). You cannot mix and match as they're all set poses. The arms are built in their entirety, and whilst my kits are in the other room under too many other unbuilt things to find, I'd be willing to bet all the money in my wallet against all the money in your wallet that only certain torsos can take certain arms.

Yeah, almost. IIRC two terminator bodies share the same kind of arm "slot" and there are three arms that would fit in there. The heavy weapon guy must always take a heavy weapon (which fit on no other terminators) and the flail guy must always take the flail.
Plus the usual problem of there not being enough weapons for the squad in the box.

https://imgur.com/a/8qUPF

Even assuming there is absolutely no way to assemble any of the arms differently from the instruction booklet (A fact I am highly skeptical of) this is wrong. There are five combi-weapons in the kit, all of which have different bit #s so you definitely can have 5 guys without heavy weapons/flails, and there appear to be axes and swords for everybody, though maybe not enough for everyone to have axes or everyone to have swords? Also, there are two heavy guns in the kit and the instructions show two different models equipped with them.

Okay, I was remembering it the wrong way around - each terminator can have one of the heavy weapons or a combi-bolter. For example, you can't put the blight launcher on terminator #3, it will only fit on #2. If you try to mix, the arms don't fit at all without cutting off stuff and adding a non-trivial amount of greenstuff - and even then it would look wonky as the cloak and/or chain mail would be hanging at an odd angle or because a leg/the belly would get in the way of the weapon. I'm pretty sure only #1 and #3 were compatible to each other. I'm not too sure about the axes/swords, I remember the axes fitting on anyone, but the sword shown in 5b only fits that terminator because oft the gas/spikes on top.

 insaniak wrote:

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
I wonder if there are many overweight craftworld Eldar. I imagine that excessive eating, like excessive anything, would be looked at with some great suspicion. On the other hand, I'm sure there are some incredible tasting foods created by those on the path of the chef or whatever, and an eldar could easily end up indulging in all the different tastes they could discover. Maybe there is a path for that, where you just taste everything there is to taste and get it out of your system or something.

Let's head that off at the pass, lest we revisit the silliness that accompanied the Celestine release. There is nothing 'overweight' about any of the models previewed so far.

Maybe it's just that both plastic Celestine and Jain Zar have smaller boob plate that makes the rest of them look larger. Point of reference is important, you know.

*snickers and runs*

 ekwatts wrote:
I'm not sure I understand what the problem is here. Could it be possible that Jain Zar is simply taller, and proportionally larger? I'm 6'2 and it's not super rare for me to encounter women who are a similar height and proportionally very similar to me, if not taller.

Sure, this isn't often very well represented in miniatures. But I don't see it as a problem if it is.

I think size difference reminiscent of real life would be easier to buy if GW's business wasn't army level miniatures games. In a small scale skirmish where every model can be unique, and will more likely than not be made of resin or metal rather than plastic, you can account for that kind of individuality just fine. GW needs to provide squads of five or ten models at a time though, with interchangeable parts (even though they've cut down on that somewhat lately) so as to allow people to build armies of fifty or more models without significant repetition.

People are simply used to standardization of body size in GW games. Anything that deviates from that will more likely be seen as off than a deliberate attempt to establish a character's physical properties.

Khahandran wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
So thats it.
When is the next part of the campaign due?

No, based on the September FAQ article, there is still some discussions to go yet before the next part. Presumably it will be mission reveals etc.

"On the topic of Psychic Awakening, we’ll be ramping up our previews of the first book in the series – Phoenix Rising – over the next couple of weeks, so be sure to check back with us regularly for more news." This was only posted last week so if we take 'couple' literally there'll be something next week.

Yeah, preorder announcement on Sunday and a week's worth of articles to follow seems likely.

As timing goes, getting the campaign book and the few assorted kits out of the way next week would make sense since Age of Sigmar will receive a large army release sometime in October and the amount of kits involved probably means we'll look at no fewer than three weeks for that, and in my opinion that may be an optimistic figure. We also still have a Marine release in the pipeline. It's all terribly crowded at the moment. There will be the Sisters box in November, probably something for Necromunda, Goblin wolf riders for Beastgrave, Christmas boxes, the Red Gobbo shortly before Christmas - there's really not much room for anything unannounced to come in what remains of 2019.

So as for Fayric's question, Psychic Awakening 2 will probably not come around before next year. I'd expect something like the interval we've seen for the Vigilus books, which was give or take three months.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Just looks like an Incubus. There's nothing that really makes him stand out as a special character. He could be a squad leader and no one would ever know unless you told them.

I mean he's fine, but there's nothing about him that screams "Special Character".

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
Its a slight shame its a little trickier than the older 'every limb is separate' way, but they generally look better. And yes, its related, but you can keep arguing all day if you want

Your basic point is "Oh how terrible it must be to have all the options in your kits!", which no one is arguing about, for or against. Hence, non sequitur. Get it yet?

"But I NEED to kitbash, woe is me..."
It seems you have something negative to say in pretty much all your posts anyway, or that you try to passive aggressively belittle posters in a smarmy, self-righteous way whilst providing little to no extra contribution to threads. I should have done this a while ago... *click*

The new Drazhar looks really nice, even if he doesn't stand out from the crowd (apart from the base, which is also really nice). Im looking forward to seeing all the other releases the awakening brings. Apparently there are 4 different areas it will be focussed around according to one of Valraks posts. Will we see just a few units and characters (not a bad thing), or could we potentially see stiff like new Guard regiments or even brand new armies like Exodites, especially if the campaign lasts a long time. Im wondering whether this is going to be on the scale (release wise) of the End Times or something similar for 40k. With apparently every army getting something could we see the return of Pariahs for Necrons? Will the Tau be getting something to help against the upswing in psykers, be it more alien species working for the greater good or new types of drone defence?

No real reason to think it will be different from the last couple campaigns. A couple fluff books, revisions and formations and a handful of kits.

Brand new armies (beyond maybe fleshing out ynarri as an actual thing rather than a page of joke rules) and major overhauls to guard of all things seem out of context for the campaign.

 insaniak wrote:

pm713 wrote:

I think I can be forgiven for the assumption that you hold a weapon by the holdy bit not the killy bit especially as I've never really looked at klaives before.

He is holding the weapon by the holdy bit, though.

All I can say in my defence is I wrote that when I hadn't slept in about 30 hours so my brain was not working very well. I do have to admit I like Drahzar much more after another look.

Removed - BrookM