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Fighting urge to start Tyranids for the fourth time...

Grey Templar wrote:The only issue I have with the Tyrannofex/Tervigon is that its hips and rear legs are a little too skinny for my tastes. It should get beefed up in that area.

They're as comparatively beefy as the back legs on the Heirophant, and the body shape and proportions is basically the same with hooves on the back legs instead of talons. Even all the bits of exposed sinew between the arch of the legs is the same as on the Heirophant.

I love the new sculpts of the tervigon/tfex. Really not impressed with the Swarmlord and Im glad I converted one. Mine looks almost exactly like the codex art minus the forked tail. The bone sword looking face horn just looks stupid imho.

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hsojvvad wrote:

Winterkit wrote:Saw the new Terv' advertised at GW HQ today. Not impressed. :/ I mean, it's nice I guess? But it doesn't really fit the image of the 'Nids I have.

I have to laugh a bit. Not at you, but we all complain that GW does nothing to advance 40K, and finally GW does something and changes something in 40K and people sill complain about it. Damned if they do, damned if they don't eh?

It's not that, I like change, and a lot of the 'Nid changes have been positive (last wave better than this one in improvements, but this one still improves upon that). I just find the body shape of the Tervigon too.. Oxen? I always imagined it more like a hive-insect queen, and find the cavernous body wrapped around two gaunt-chutes, with the cowlike posture just looks.. Meh. Doesn't fit my army, nor my preferred look for 'Nids?

Not all change is good, that doesn't mean I don't like change. And a meh Tervi (imho) model is better for the army than no Tervi at all.

Ah oxen? I thought it was more of a doberman pincher in heat. At least the tail is down, it would have been oh so wrong if it was up.

I like both kits quite a bit. The Swarmlord is perhaps most disappointing though, but not because of the bone sabres being too small (I really like them) but because he isn't bigger than the Hive Tyrant. I was expecting the body to be the same, but perhaps with an extra carapace piece to bulk him up a bit. That complaint sort of moves over to the Tyrannofex. Perhaps both models can be beefed up with some bits and still look good.

I really like the sword proportions on the Swarmlord. The blades look like a Tyranid version of a kindjal.

whoadirty wrote: That complaint sort of moves over to the Tyrannofex. Perhaps both models can be beefed up with some bits and still look good.

Considering the thing is easily three times the size of a Carnifex in bulk alone and nearly as tall as a Trygon while being on all six limbs I'd say he's pretty damn beefy already.

Out of all the sculpts, my favourite is the Tervigon. I think the sac on it's underside looks awesome, and the termagant bursting out of it is a nice touch. The only problem is that I'd never use a Tervigon in a game. Same goes for the Tyrannofex probably.

However, I've already ordered my Hive Tyrant kit. Although it doesn't look loads different, the switch to plastic and addition of extra components should make the kit a lot better. Although I won't be building one (yet) the Winged Tyrant looks baws.

And I thought I'd got my Nids to a good size and could finish adding to them. Oh, GW know how to scrounge money out of me....

Yeah, something to consider is the fact that the Tyrannofex is a quadruped, and the Tervigon is hexapedal - the book actually says it uses all 6 limbs and only rears back on its hind legs when defending itself. Weight would actually be more on the front legs, which are supporting the belly, incubation sac (or cannon, in the case of the Tyrannofex) and chitin plates.

My major quirk is that the Tfex fluff says its cannon is fused to its torso.

-Loki- wrote:Yeah, something to consider is the fact that the Tyrannofex is a quadruped, and the Tervigon is hexapedal - the book actually says it uses all 6 limbs and only rears back on its hind legs when defending itself. Weight would actually be more on the front legs, which are supporting the belly, incubation sac (or cannon, in the case of the Tyrannofex) and chitin plates.

Actually, the Tyrannofex would fall over on his head if not glued to a base, as the thin mid-pair of legs is behind the centre of gravity.
That's why I will make a conversion with 6 legs and a double cannon on its back.
BTW even the solid resin legs of the Biotitan don't support the model, you have to provide extra support in some way.

Kroothawk wrote:

-Loki- wrote:Yeah, something to consider is the fact that the Tyrannofex is a quadruped, and the Tervigon is hexapedal - the book actually says it uses all 6 limbs and only rears back on its hind legs when defending itself. Weight would actually be more on the front legs, which are supporting the belly, incubation sac (or cannon, in the case of the Tyrannofex) and chitin plates.

Actually, the Tyrannofex would fall over on his head if not glued to a base, as the thin mid-pair of legs is behind the centre of gravity.
That's why I will make a conversion with 6 legs and a double cannon on its back.
BTW even the solid resin legs of the Biotitan don't support the model, you have to provide extra support in some way.

My Hierophant has a 3/8 inch acrylic rod similar to a flight stand to keep it from bending the legs and falling over.

I do want to convert my Hierophant to have rear legs that end in hooves like the new kits instead of talons.

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Redemption wrote:The picture says 'Tirannofex' next to it in the picture's description on the left, so I wouldn't read to much into it. It's probably just the fleshborer hive or something.

Those look more like an Assault 20 weapon than anything else...wall of dart throwers style!

I really would hope that a T-Fex sized CC variant would be the *last* thing that GW would come up with to give 'Nids a boost. I'm not a huge fan of the transport bug concept and even that seems more useful than a lumbering CC monstrosity with a target painted allll over it.

So what I gathered from looking on games workshop site and reading through the codex is the tyrannofex pic with the big claws with all the opening along the body of it, that is the electro shock grubs. The flesborer hive is the gun that has the claw look to it, I really don't know how to explain it. Then the rupture cannon was easy

I totally agree the new models look awesome. I just put my tyrant and one of my carni's on ebay! I really like how they modeled them to look almost like a mini hierophant.

I like the models, would have prefered it up they didn't have their arses up in the air, but overall happy. The gaming reprecussions of their size is quite dissapointing, however my play style will evolve.
My big gripe is the tfex! Look at a marine with 3+ armor and a Terminator with 2+ armor OK?
Now look a the Tervigon (STR 5, 3+) and the Tyrannofex (STR 6, 2+)
All it would have taken is to include a chest plate or bigger legs or something

Remember that an armor save doesn't always mean its armor.

It could mean there is just so few vital organs that only the heaviest weapons could hope to strike something vital with any reliability.

Rules wise, I wish they would give the harpy a 2+, heck even a 3+. Just as they stand right now, 1 GK Autocannon dreadnought firing at it will kill it on turn 1 by bypassing its armor save and likely inflicting 4 wounds :(

If they ever release a harpy model, I won't buy it just due to how bad their rules are which is sad

Was looking at the "scything feet" and noticed that if you cut off the lowest three segments you are back to standard
tyrant feet. Not sure why this might be useful, but who knows? I'm thinking three-clawed feet would look better on the flyrant as at least one person on Warpshadow has done.

Looks like we will be doubling up the devourers on one arm to make quad dev flyrants.

-Loki- wrote:

They're 'scything feet', giving the Tyrant a set of scything talons as well as whatever you decide to put in its arm slots.

It's not a great solution, but it works. The wings pretty much need to take the top arm slot to stick to the basic design ideas behind Tyranids (the main one being they all have 6 limbs). Forgeworld had the same solution by making the Flyrant and Warrior wings 'scything wings', with the fingers along the membrane scything talons. GW opted for scything feet.

timd wrote:Was looking at the "scything feet" and noticed that if you cut off the lowest three segments you are back to standard
tyrant feet. Not sure why this might be useful, but who knows? I'm thinking three-clawed feet would look better on the flyrant as at least one person on Warpshadow has done.

Looks like we will be doubling up the devourers on one arm to make quad dev flyrants.

-Loki- wrote:

They're 'scything feet', giving the Tyrant a set of scything talons as well as whatever you decide to put in its arm slots.

It's not a great solution, but it works. The wings pretty much need to take the top arm slot to stick to the basic design ideas behind Tyranids (the main one being they all have 6 limbs). Forgeworld had the same solution by making the Flyrant and Warrior wings 'scything wings', with the fingers along the membrane scything talons. GW opted for scything feet.

Yeah, I'll be waiting for some conversions to show up on how to do double devs on one arm.

Shovan wrote:

Looks like we will be doubling up the devourers on one arm to make quad dev flyrants.

Yeah, I'll be waiting for some conversions to show up on how to do double devs on one arm.

The easy way is to just add a second dev front end, upside down, under the first dev front end.

vigilante87 wrote:

Pedrowan wrote:

Redemption wrote:The picture says 'Tirannofex' next to it in the picture's description on the left, so I wouldn't read to much into it. It's probably just the fleshborer hive or something.

Those look more like an Assault 20 weapon than anything else...wall of dart throwers style!

I really would hope that a T-Fex sized CC variant would be the *last* thing that GW would come up with to give 'Nids a boost. I'm not a huge fan of the transport bug concept and even that seems more useful than a lumbering CC monstrosity with a target painted allll over it.

So what I gathered from looking on games workshop site and reading through the codex is the tyrannofex pic with the big claws with all the opening along the body of it, that is the electro shock grubs. The flesborer hive is the gun that has the claw look to it, I really don't know how to explain it. Then the rupture cannon was easy

I totally agree the new models look awesome. I just put my tyrant and one of my carni's on ebay! I really like how they modeled them to look almost like a mini hierophant.

The White Dwarf Says that the The Shield-like double Claw one with lots of holes on it, is the Fleshborer Hive, the Big gun is the Rupture cannon, and the claw one, with the bio-tubes is the Acid Spray.

I think it's best to disregard the codex artwork. While it was clearly the concept for the creature, they went a bit of a different direction for the model.

I'm mostly wondering where the thorax swarm is on the model, since the carapace is obviously the stinger salvo/cluster spines.

Thorax Swarms can't be seen. It is like an anthill in the creatures chest. Can't see inside.

-Loki- wrote:I'm mostly wondering where the thorax swarm is on the model, since the carapace is obviously the stinger salvo/cluster spines.

I was wondering this too, but It's pretty hard to get a look at the underside of the model.

I think the creatures live inside the Tyrannofex, with the creatures flowing out, of its mouth/ribs as the Tyrannofex approaches it's target.

-Loki- wrote:I think it's best to disregard the codex artwork. While it was clearly the concept for the creature, they went a bit of a different direction for the model.

I'm mostly wondering where the thorax swarm is on the model, since the carapace is obviously the stinger salvo/cluster spines.

Medium of Death wrote:I was wondering this too, but It's pretty hard to get a look at the underside of the model.

I think the creatures live inside the Tyrannofex, with the creatures flowing out, of its mouth/ribs as the Tyrannofex approaches it's target.

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Medium of Death wrote:

-Loki- wrote:I'm mostly wondering where the thorax swarm is on the model, since the carapace is obviously the stinger salvo/cluster spines.

I was wondering this too, but It's pretty hard to get a look at the underside of the model.

I think the creatures live inside the Tyrannofex, with the creatures flowing out, of its mouth/ribs as the Tyrannofex approaches it's target.

I agree. There's a bit of fluff in the Nid codex (can't remember where) saying that the thoraz swarm has to eject the bugs at regular intevals or the Tfex would burst from all the bugs being born/grown. It stands to reason then, that the bugs are actually inside the Tfex

The Shadow wrote:

Medium of Death wrote:

-Loki- wrote:I'm mostly wondering where the thorax swarm is on the model, since the carapace is obviously the stinger salvo/cluster spines.

I was wondering this too, but It's pretty hard to get a look at the underside of the model.

I think the creatures live inside the Tyrannofex, with the creatures flowing out, of its mouth/ribs as the Tyrannofex approaches it's target.

I agree. There's a bit of fluff in the Nid codex (can't remember where) saying that the thoraz swarm has to eject the bugs at regular intevals or the Tfex would burst from all the bugs being born/grown. It stands to reason then, that the bugs are actually inside the Tfex

That is quoted on page 53, though that exact description is for Fleshborer Hive ( but yes they occupy same weapon )

Here you go guys,

AUD Pricing.

$96 for Tervigon/Fex
$93 for Tyrant


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Well done GW, thanks for continuing to gauge Australians.

Need to find a different hobby methinks

Swarmski wrote:AUD Pricing.

$96 for Tervigon/Fex
$93 for Tyrant


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Well done GW, thanks for continuing to gauge Australians.

Need to find a different hobby methinks

I'm honestly surprised they didn't put the Tervigon in the Land Raider price bracket. While it's on a 120mm base like the Trygon, it's a hell of a lot beefier. I could see someone high up trying to convince them the Land Raider bracket is the correct one.

And hey, at least we got a price drop with the Hive Tyrant. It was more expensive in finecast, with less options.

Also, you need to look here for your GW purchases. Or is 50% off not cheap enough?

those new creatures look amazing ,might have to look at starting Nids!

-Loki- wrote:Also, you need to look here for your GW purchases. Or is 50% off not cheap enough?

Where do you see 50%?