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 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
I really do wish GW would give us a plastic Captain/Libby in Termie armor like CSM. The finecast ones are starting to show their age.

The Captain I'll give you, but the Librarian and Chaplain in Terminator armor are some of GW's best models-- I wouldn't change a thing!

 Leth wrote:
It will be interesting to see some sprues on the dakka ones, also some rules. Are they twinlinked or multishot, things of that nature. Still I am happy with how they look. If they have missile launchers in the chest then it will really help with my anti tank needs. That, combined with the sternguard points drop and less of a need for combi weapons will help round out my army more.

I'm hopping to the emprah that the ML is in fact a TML/CML.

I'm expecting the Grav Cannons/Lascannons/etc to be Twin Linked, but who knows! We could get the Contemptor Mortis treatment on those guns.

Then again, we'd need another piece of Wargear to just let us shoot all the weapons at the same time. O.o

But a plastic Chaplain/Librarian terminator with some weapon/arm/head options would be a sure seller.

I echo the sentiments above that the DakkaTurions look 1000x better than the assault ones, and ya, it's the drills not the paint job.

Everything about this release screams Roman Legions except the beards. Romans didn't have beards they viewed them as a sign of cowardice. Oh well GW can't do everything right... I for one love the Roman Legion aesthetic, sets it far apart from the Wolves, Monks, and Vampires IMO.

 Kingsley wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
I really do wish GW would give us a plastic Captain/Libby in Termie armor like CSM. The finecast ones are starting to show their age.

The Captain I'll give you, but the Librarian and Chaplain in Terminator armor are some of GW's best models-- I wouldn't change a thing!

Except to have them back in metal instead of that drek Finecast.

Crazyterran wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
I really do wish GW would give us a plastic Captain/Libby in Termie armor like CSM. The finecast ones are starting to show their age.

I originally read that as Chappy/Libby.

I nearly screamed Heresy before I read that. No man may gak talk the termi chappie and live.

Oh no, Chappy Termie is awesome, just like the Commander Dante model, its ageless...

 Kingsley wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
I really do wish GW would give us a plastic Captain/Libby in Termie armor like CSM. The finecast ones are starting to show their age.

The Captain I'll give you, but the Librarian and Chaplain in Terminator armor are some of GW's best models-- I wouldn't change a thing!

The main problem with that Terminator Captain is he is too small!! He's got Abaddon syndrome....

 Blood Angel 17 wrote:
Is that a new flyer on the right hand side of the picture of the heroes?

I see a Storm Talon on either side, and a Storm Raven in the middle.

I have noticed that some of the new releases (apoc marine commanders) and now the HQ captain/commander here look like old models just built up with excessive bits.

I still like the new plastic HQs, new tank looks needlessly built up with armor. The centurions well we will see when the kit comes out what the conversion possibilities are. Basically its a super soldier, in power armor, then he puts on terminator armor, then squeezes into iron clad dreadnought pants, say hello to the Astartes TURDUCKEN.

775B53 wrote:
"these are the worst models I have ever seen. No hyperbole. GW is a joke, they have no creativity. I say this as a basement dweller who knows nothing about art, yet somehow I know I have better taste than a team of professional designers. I will also comment on the paint job even though I can't even bring myself to paint my necrons/grey knights/latest power army. I haven't bought any GW models in twenty years, this just confirms I made the right decision to fund (insert any lame kickstarter here)."

Don't make me beat you to death with my painting contest awards. You're really pushing it with this tiresome argument.

 OverwatchCNC wrote:
Romans didn't have beards they viewed them as a sign of cowardice.

This is incorrect. Beards were a sign of an unclean/lazy/poor person. Had nothing to do with bravery or cowardice.

I'd like to see more of that chaplain - it strikes me as being a great model, maybe. I already own a jump chaplain and a terminator chaplain and used neither almost ever, but I guess I'm just a sucker for them and maybe will have to add a third.

The captain and librarian are kinda eh. Nothing wrong with them, just not really blowing my skirt up. I think the cherub on the librarian is kind of a dealkiller for me.

The ranged Centurions look merely bad here, instead laughably awful.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
The new tank

If there are pics of another tank, beside that twin-gun one seen earlier, the link/picture isn't working.

Ok so the devastator centurions look much better, hoping they have decent rules to go with and I might be sold. Loving the libby and chaplin, but agree the captain looks like AOBR with a head swap, not really that great tbh.

I sure hope that new Centurion armour is a hoax... it looks absolutely ridiculous.
It resembles too much of a walking Land Raider... and we've already seen a flying one (as a few bloggers are already fearing the worst).

I hope they'll still give us the reason to take the Venerable Dreadnought... and Whirlwind, for the Emperor's sake!

 Tigramans wrote:
I hope they'll still give us the reason to take the Venerable Dreadnought... and Whirlwind, for the Emperor's sake!

Not a chance. When was the last time you saw a Leman Russ Executioner? A Sentinel? How about some Ogryns? No, every modern codex has unplayable units that nobody in their right mind would take.

Finally had time to look at all the pics.

I don't mind the Centurions. Yeah, they don't work anatomically at all, but they fit the imperial aesthetic well, I think.

The Hunter is nothing exceptional, but of course few things on the Rhino chassis could be.

Vanguard box looks lovely.

I just picked up the SM Commander and he's really not that different from the new captain - at least that's one less thing to buy for now.

The Libby and Chaplain? Now that's a different matter

SHOW MORE STERNGUARDS!!! please

TheLoki wrote:

 OverwatchCNC wrote:
Romans didn't have beards they viewed them as a sign of cowardice.

This is incorrect. Beards were a sign of an unclean/lazy/poor person. Had nothing to do with bravery or cowardice.

It did. It arguably however had more to do with being NOT Greek than cowardice, laziness, unclean, or poor. It wasn't until Hadrian that beards became acceptable in Roman culture and that was during a time of intense Greek Cultural mimicry in Rome and also because Hadrian was trying to disguise his scars.

Anyways... Someone talked about the newer Captains and ICs looking like re-sculpts which I am fine with. I just wish they would redo the old Terminator Captain, I still love the Terminator Chaplain.

 Anpu42 wrote:

 schadenfreude wrote:
I like the new centurian models because they have a lot of potential. Paint them black and white, replace the head with a 3rd party stargate looking bird head and then you have the galaxy's most heavily armed penguins waddling across the battlefield to purge the heritics and xenos.

Thanks! Now I have an Exuse to buy the Puppet Wars Hawk Heads, Thanks that image will never leave my head.

You're welcome. Don't forget to greenstuff a monocle onto the heads while you are at it.

Crazyterran wrote:
....Then again, we'd need another piece of Wargear to just let us shoot all the weapons at the same time. O.o

Or they will just make them Monstrous Creatures. I'm fully expecting them to have 2 Wounds and Toughness 5-6.

 OverwatchCNC wrote:

TheLoki wrote:

 OverwatchCNC wrote:
Romans didn't have beards they viewed them as a sign of cowardice.

This is incorrect. Beards were a sign of an unclean/lazy/poor person. Had nothing to do with bravery or cowardice.

It did. It arguably however had more to do with being NOT Greek than cowardice, laziness, unclean, or poor. It wasn't until Hadrian that beards became acceptable in Roman culture and that was during a time of intense Greek Cultural mimicry in Rome and also because Hadrian was trying to disguise his scars.

Rome was always a slave to trends.

Im expecting them to have relentless and a rule where if they stand still they can fire all thier weapons

Purple Saturday wrote:

Crazyterran wrote:
....Then again, we'd need another piece of Wargear to just let us shoot all the weapons at the same time. O.o

Or they will just make them Monstrous Creatures. I'm fully expecting them to have 2 Wounds and Toughness 5-6.

Having Power Fists, Smash, Hammer of Wrath, Move Through Cover, and all the other goodies that MCs get is a little bit much to expect.

Cannons, glorious, glorious, Cannons!

I think they'll make them AV10 Walkers so they can watch the aneurysms on the forums.

TheLoki wrote:

 OverwatchCNC wrote:

TheLoki wrote:

 OverwatchCNC wrote:
Romans didn't have beards they viewed them as a sign of cowardice.

This is incorrect. Beards were a sign of an unclean/lazy/poor person. Had nothing to do with bravery or cowardice.

It did. It arguably however had more to do with being NOT Greek than cowardice, laziness, unclean, or poor. It wasn't until Hadrian that beards became acceptable in Roman culture and that was during a time of intense Greek Cultural mimicry in Rome and also because Hadrian was trying to disguise his scars.

Rome was always a slave to trends.

Exalted despite us dragging the thread OT...

 OverwatchCNC wrote:


Cannons, glorious, glorious, Cannons!

Chrysis wrote:
I think they'll make them AV10 Walkers so they can watch the aneurysms on the forums.

Genius. All 30-ish years of GW's existence has led up to this one brilliant life troll.

 OverwatchCNC wrote:

Spoiler:

Cannons, glorious, glorious, Cannons!

That Rhino variant looks really good.

So far, I'm a fan of it, the Vanguard, the Sternguard, and the ICs...though the cherub will not survive contact with my craft knife.

I was going to start a DA army but now I want to do whatever chapter will let me have scoring Sternguard. Hopefully it is still the Crimson Fists.

 JB wrote:

 OverwatchCNC wrote:

Spoiler:

Cannons, glorious, glorious, Cannons!

That Rhino variant looks really good.

So far, I'm a fan of it, the Vanguard, the Sternguard, and the ICs...though the cherub will not survive contact with my craft knife.

I was going to start a DA army but now I want to do whatever chapter will let me have scoring Sternguard. Hopefully it is still the Crimson Fists.

Yeah, I do wonder why Grandpa Librarian brought a naked baby with him. And then armed it with a wooden sword and shield.