Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)

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**ashikenshin**

Swara wrote:
Praxiss wrote:Apparently a Barque (see the dedicated trasnport option) is a kind of sail boat with at least 3 masts and square sails.

I was hoping it woudl be soem sort of chariot.

i really hope they aren't turning necrons into 40k pirates. New Lord option - Gauss cutlass and tri-corn night hat.

Do I need to hit photoshop again?

yes, please.

I don't know if anybody here played Final Fantasy XI, but they had undead pirates and they were all kinds of awesome. Also the 1st Pirates of the Caribbean had the awesomeness that is undead pirates.

**Death By Monkeys**

Here's the problem I see with the entries above - the wording for the options is really imprecise. It doesn't make it clear whether the points cost for Euclidean disruption shrouds are 5 points per model or 5 points for the whole squad. Similarly, the wording for the gauss flayer weapon replacement is cloudy on whether or not you have to replace the entire squads' weapons or only a few. I know that that's being really nitpicky, but frankly, GW's done enough of these codices that even if they're cutting and pasting, they've got the wording hammered out to make sure those things are clear. This could be a sheet from a playtest codex, but I have my doubts.

**Pael**

Death By Monkeys wrote:Here's the problem I see with the entries above - the wording for the options is really imprecise. It doesn't make it clear whether the points cost for Euclidean disruption shrouds are 5 points per model or 5 points for the whole squad. Similarly, the wording for the gauss flayer weapon replacement is cloudy on whether or not you have to replace the entire squads' weapons or only a few. I know that that's being really nitpicky, but frankly, GW's done enough of these codices that even if they're cutting and pasting, they've got the wording hammered out to make sure those things are clear. This could be a sheet from a playtest codex, but I have my doubts.

You are right these errors make the image legit, it really is a copy of the upcoming codex!!!

Also Thank you Praxiss you are a hero among dakkaites everywhere.

**angelshade00**

Death By Monkeys wrote:Here's the problem I see with the entries above - the wording for the options is really imprecise. It doesn't make it clear whether the points cost for Euclidean disruption shrouds are 5 points per model or 5 points for the whole squad. Similarly, the wording for the gauss flayer weapon replacement is cloudy on whether or not you have to replace the entire squads' weapons or only a few. I know that that's being really nitpicky, but frankly, GW's done enough of these codices that even if they're cutting and pasting, they've got the wording hammered out to make sure those things are clear. This could be a sheet from a playtest codex, but I have my doubts.

I agree the disruption shrouds and other upgrades are not totally clear about it... However, the Gauss flayer is crystal clear I think... it does say "the entire squad".

A Pirate I was meant to be, trim the sails and roam the sea!

**Swara**

ashikenshin wrote:
Swara wrote:
Praxiss wrote:Apparently a Barque (see the dedicated trasnport option) is a kind of sail boat with at least 3 masts and square sails.

I was hoping it woudl be soem sort of chariot.

i really hope they aren't turning necrons into 40k pirates. New Lord option - Gauss cutlass and tri-corn night hat.

Do I need to hit photoshop again?

yes, please.

I don't know if anybody here played Final Fantasy XI, but they had undead pirates and they were all kinds of awesome. Also the 1st Pirates of the Caribbean had the awesomeness that is undead pirates.

There is alway the famous:

**KarlPedder**

While I agree its unclear if you pay the points for the squad upgrades like the disruption field at the listed price per model or for the whole squad what makes it unclear is the lack of per model in the cost description like the weapon upgrades have. But I disagree that its unclear that the weapon upgrades must be taken for the whole squad.
"The entire squad may replace their gauss flayers with one of the following" is very different to the "any model may exchange x with y" wording used for units like fire warriors pulse carbines or DE trueborn shardcarbines.

**angelshade00**

I can already imagine a Necron Lord threatening his enemies by saying "I'm going to lock you up in Davie Jones' locker!"

**Swara**

KarlPedder wrote:While I agree its unclear if you pay the points for the squad upgrades like the disruption field at the listed price per model or for the whole squad what makes it unclear is the lack of per model in the cost description like the weapon upgrades have. But I disagree that its unclear that the weapon upgrades must be taken for the whole squad.
"The entire squad may replace their gauss flayers with one of the following" is very different to the "any model may exchange x with y" wording used for units like fire warriors pulse carbines or DE trueborn shardcarbines.

Right, and I hope this isn't the case that you have to switch every one. I'm in high hopes that you can have mixed special weapons so I can keep my normal necrons and by a couple boxes to create my special guys.
Though this isn't too fluffy. Another option would to have those guard break of to be a unit leader and maybe they can have a special weapon.. that would make me happy, too.

**starbomber109**

Anpu-adom wrote:
Swara wrote:
Praxiss wrote:Apparently a Barque (see the dedicated trasnport option) is a kind of sail boat with at least 3 masts and square sails.

I was hoping it woudl be soem sort of chariot.

i really hope they aren't turning necrons into 40k pirates. New Lord option - Gauss cutlass and tri-corn night hat.

Do I need to hit photoshop again?

This does match some of the concept drawings that were floating around earlier. Barque does mean a three-masted ship, but before that, it just mean a very small boat. Like the kind that Egyptians used to transport stone down the Nile or corpses up. The boat provided for the Pharaoh to travel into the afterlife was a Barque.
From Wikipedia:

Waiting to see necron oarsmen...

Why does GW keep making skimmer sailboats, I'm a bit tired of this. What's next? New eldar transport called 'Star Galleon'?

**catharsix**

Swara wrote:
There is alway the famous:

i really like this picture. and honestly, the space undead skeletons in pirate garb and gear is not really more ridiculous than a number of the existing armies. of course it flies in the face of existing Necrons fluff, but it hardly rises to the level of ridiculous in the overall asylum of absurd armies that is the 40k universe...

-C6

**angelshade00**

starbomber109 wrote:
Why does GW keep making skimmer sailboats, I'm a bit tired of this. What's next? New eldar transport called 'Star Galleon'?

(random GW mastermind browsing through forums under a fake name):
Star Galleon? How come I have never thought of that before? This HAS to make it to the next Eldar Codex!

**tiekwando**

I really doubt that its real. Maybe because I don't want to get my hopes up, but probably because there is way to much math/science names in there. Euclidean disruption shrouds, gamma ray projectors... Also I think that it is odd that the warriors and Immortals share no similar weapons upgrades.

That would mean (by the logic of the sheet) that every previous gauss gun, so guass flayer, guass blaster, guass cannon, heavy guass cannon and guass flux arc would get 4 copies (guass, particle, tesla and ray). Which while that would be cool would also give 20 different guns. Seems like a lot, especially when there are still the monoliths blast and the rumored doomsday monolith blast.

**Scarey Nerd**

tiekwando wrote:I really doubt that its real. Maybe because I don't want to get my hopes up, but probably because there is way to much math/science names in there. Euclidean disruption shrouds, gamma ray projectors... Also I think that it is odd that the warriors and Immortals share no similar weapons upgrades.

That would mean (by the logic of the sheet) that every previous gauss gun, so guass flayer, guass blaster, guass cannon, heavy guass cannon and guass flux arc would get 4 copies (guass, particle, tesla and ray). Which while that would be cool would also give 20 different guns. Seems like a lot, especially when there are still the monoliths blast and the rumored doomsday monolith blast.

Euclidian already exists in Necron terminology, as it's a strategic asset in Planetstrike or one of those books, so it's not toooooo far fetched.

**tiekwando**

Scarey Nerd wrote:
tiekwando wrote:I really doubt that its real. Maybe because I don't want to get my hopes up, but probably because there is way to much math/science names in there. Euclidean disruption shrouds, gamma ray projectors... Also I think that it is odd that the warriors and Immortals share no similar weapons upgrades.

That would mean (by the logic of the sheet) that every previous gauss gun, so guass flayer, guass blaster, guass cannon, heavy guass cannon and guass flux arc would get 4 copies (guass, particle, tesla and ray). Which while that would be cool would also give 20 different guns. Seems like a lot, especially when there are still the monoliths blast and the rumored doomsday monolith blast.

Euclidian already exists in Necron terminology, as it's a strategic asset in Planetstrike or one of those books, so it's not toooooo far fetched.

Huh didn't know that, well a toast to necron's appreciation of geometry (IIRC)

**Anpu-adom**

tiekwando wrote:
Scarey Nerd wrote:
tiekwando wrote:I really doubt that its real. Maybe because I don't want to get my hopes up, but probably because there is way to much math/science names in there. Euclidean disruption shrouds, gamma ray projectors... Also I think that it is odd that the warriors and Immortals share no similar weapons upgrades.

That would mean (by the logic of the sheet) that every previous gauss gun, so guass flayer, guass blaster, guass cannon, heavy guass cannon and guass flux arc would get 4 copies (guass, particle, tesla and ray). Which while that would be cool would also give 20 different guns. Seems like a lot, especially when there are still the monoliths blast and the rumored doomsday monolith blast.

Euclidian already exists in Necron terminology, as it's a strategic asset in Planetstrike or one of those books, so it's not toooooo far fetched.

Huh didn't know that, well a toast to necron's appreciation of geometry (IIRC)

Sorry to disappoint... Euclidean geometry is the normal, everyday, xyz coordinate space that you are most familiar with. It's nothing like Elliptical or hyperbolic geometries that violate ideas that two parallel lines never touch.

More proof that the pen (or perhaps the proof :-)) is mightier than the sword... if scarabs can use geometry to bust through tank armor. My math teacher would be proud.

**Darkjediben**

Everybody is aware of what Euclidean actually means. We were talking about what it means/if it appeared in the context of Necron fluff, not if GW actually invented the concept of Euclidean geometry.

**Anpu-adom**

Darkjediben wrote:Everybody is aware of what Euclidean actually means. We were talking about what it means/if it appeared in the context of Necron fluff, not if GW actually invented the concept of Euclidean geometry.

I'm sorry. I teach, and thus cannot assume that anyone knows something about anything.

**Marthike**

Mar wrote:
AlexHolker wrote:
Anpu-adom wrote:Newbbie Question: How common is the 'here's the cost for a unit of 5' and then 'here's the cost for each additional'? Does that appear in other codices?

It's used in Ward's other codices.

Which ones? Out of interest because I have not seen it before.

I think I seen that in the GK codex, because it is new, and follows the patten, I so want that to be true

**dzoid5000**

Marthike wrote:
Mar wrote:
AlexHolker wrote:
Anpu-adom wrote:Newbbie Question: How common is the 'here's the cost for a unit of 5' and then 'here's the cost for each additional'? Does that appear in other codices?

It's used in Ward's other codices.

Which ones? Out of interest because I have not seen it before.

I think I seen that in the GK codex, because it is new, and follows the patten, I so want that to be true

The vanilla SM Codex and Blood Angles dex have that set up also.

**tiekwando**

Anpu-adom wrote:
Darkjediben wrote:Everybody is aware of what Euclidean actually means. We were talking about what it means/if it appeared in the context of Necron fluff, not if GW actually invented the concept of Euclidean geometry.

I'm sorry. I teach, and thus cannot assume that anyone knows something about anything.

Understandable, fortunately learned about it oh 9 years ago.

Maybe the deceiver taught the greeks in order to confuse the population and leave miserable teenagers in its wake. Caused the Golden age, then the age of darkness (or dark age or whatever that time period where all the technology was lost) so that it could feed! Of course I guess the Ctan are dead(ish?) in the new fluff.

Anyways necrons are the masters of science so I guess they could be the new nerdgasm army. Ancient Egyptian scientists.

**cyberscape7**

The page looks fairly legit, but I'm going to take this with a pinch of salt. We've all seen the fake reference sheet which looked a little like GWs style but obviously wasn't. Gotta say though, the cringeworthy names of the weapons does sound like Wards style so we never kno

**Nightbringer's Chosen**

BrassScorpion wrote:I hadn't looked in this thread in quite some time and just popped in to see what useful and exciting Necron news would be posted on the newest page, PAGE 46 of this thread because there just HAD to be great information still being posted here after so many pages. (yes, that was a bit sarcastic). And after glancing at the last page of posts it met my expectations beyond my wildest dreams, which is to say I was expecting to see useless waffling on about nothing related to the original topic after nearly four dozen pages and indeed it has gone light years beyond that. When was the last time something that wasn't superfluous prattle was posted here? Does anyone even remember when the last time news or rumors about Necrons was posted here? Aren't there other threads already for discussing GW's business practices? Yes there are. Wasn't this supposed to be about Necrons? Yes it was.

Seriously, some people definitely have way too much time on their hands. My only question now, why didn't the MODS lock this thread ages ago?

Yeah! Come on, everyone, you're clogging the tubes!

**nosferatu1001**

The two types of necrodermis (reinforced etc) wil be to explain the 4+ and 3+ saves, in the same way a marine gets power armour to give him a 3+

**Ascalam**

Much like the various chitin types in the Nid codex.

The names are goofy enough to be likely, unfortunately. :(

I'm just hoping for a book that doesn't read like it was written by a 12 year old trekkie...

**tiekwando**

Ascalam wrote:Much like the various chitin types in the Nid codex.

The names are goofy enough to be likely, unfortunately. :(

I'm just hoping for a book that doesn't read like it was written by a 12 year old trekkie...

do 12 year olds even know what a trekkie is? I guess they did just make the movie so maybe.

Also if this is true then is the necron lords rumored 2+ save mean that he has a fused necroshell, or maybe plated necroshell?

**Kevin949**

It's fashioned from the darkest of grimdark necrosteel.

**Ascalam**

A couple of my friends were raised fundamentalist Trekkie, devout followers of the church...of Shatner...the Wooden.

Trekkies come in 3 flavours, and a variety of packages

When 40k Rogue Trader hit these guys, and my brother and their older sister (gasp.. a female wargamer back then?? surely not

) jumped at it.

One has since lapsed in his trek-faith, while the other (and his sister) are trekkier-than-thou even with their parents

They gave Sis a pair of Spock's ears as a wedding present

**Mr.Church13**

While I really hope Mat Ward pulls his punches with the fluff this time (I know he won't but a boy can dream right?) I kind of agree with the titles for the weapons so far. If I recall correctly weren't the Necrontyr all incredible scientists before they were enslaved? If so the nerdy names make sense.

Plus I really want to do Necrons in lab coats, bowties, and thick glasses.

**Ascalam**

Sort of.

Their tech was (and supposedly is) the highest in the universe.

The Necrontyr HAD good scientists, but i don't think they were all scientists.*shrug*

A morbid, death obsessed, vindictive bunch

Nerdcrons could be fun

I've been wanting to do Old West crons for a while myself

**Moopy**

This thing reeks of fake.

The wording doen't fit, and feels nothing more than a grab bag of names.

Barque? Really? REALLY? That's not even clever, and way to close to the DE.