Warhammer 40k news and rumours. Tau/Kroot pre order and classic Ork MTO. p48.

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**Grzzldgamerps5**

First custodes model

**StudentOfEtherium**

these probably deserve their own thread

**CMLR**

StudentOfEtherium wrote:
they all wear the same massive and bulky armor either way, so unless they take the helmet off, the difference wouldn't really matter

I mean I hope so, like they do with my T'au and now Votann, and again, for impractical armour we have SoB. For once having practicallity on an Imperial army won't kill anyone.

Eldar are kind of an exception because their armour are bodysuits.

**Hellebore**

CMLR wrote:
StudentOfEtherium wrote:
they all wear the same massive and bulky armor either way, so unless they take the helmet off, the difference wouldn't really matter

I mean I hope so, like they do with my T'au and now Votann, and again, for impractical armour we have SoB. For once having practicallity on an Imperial army won't kill anyone.

Eldar are kind of an exception because their armour are bodysuits.

also, eldar are like elves, relatively androgynous. They have very similar frames regardless of sex. the boob plate is pretty much the only difference. I would also argue that as a constructed warrior race they wouldn't have any sexual dimorphism and no strength differences would exist. only those aspects necessary for reproduction. Just look at the lelith model, she is as jacked as any male eldar model.

**shadowsfm**

StudentOfEtherium wrote:
they all wear the same massive and bulky armor either way, so unless they take the helmet off, the difference wouldn't really matter

while thats true in plastic, it can be cringe on tv. do i really want to hear a deep female voice through the helmet and imagine her in the armor?

**CMLR**

Cishet, would

**Haighus**

Grzzldgamerps5 wrote:
In 1988, at the beginning of the Rogue Trader Era, Games Workshop posted this ad in White Dwarf 99, offering two of these female minis for 5£.

The female space Marines were by Bob Naismith, Trish, Aly Morrison, and Mark Copplestone, these figures helped spearhead the Rogue Trader revolution, which eventually became the Warhammer 40k game we know today.

As you can see, Jayne and Gabs debuted here as “female warriors.” At this point, GW didn’t even know what a Space Marine was, so it’s hard to say if they are female Space Marines, but this is the closest you can get officially from GW!

I think it is noticeable that the first Imperial Army troopers from the same time also included some female soldiers.

**Dawnbringer**

Is any of that news or rumours though? (unless ime suddenly living in the 90s again). I'm pretty sure the discussion of female Custodes et al was to have been moved to a discussion thread in the 40k forum.

**Manfred von Drakken**

shadowsfm wrote:
StudentOfEtherium wrote:
they all wear the same massive and bulky armor either way, so unless they take the helmet off, the difference wouldn't really matter

while thats true in plastic, it can be cringe on tv. do i really want to hear a deep female voice through the helmet and imagine her in the armor?

I'm confused... are you saying there shouldn't be female Custodes because you're afraid of what you might imagine in some hypothetical TV show?

If so, it's not the female Custodes that are the issue, here.

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Haighus wrote:
Grzzldgamerps5 wrote:
In 1988, at the beginning of the Rogue Trader Era, Games Workshop posted this ad in White Dwarf 99, offering two of these female minis for 5£.

The female space Marines were by Bob Naismith, Trish, Aly Morrison, and Mark Copplestone, these figures helped spearhead the Rogue Trader revolution, which eventually became the Warhammer 40k game we know today.

As you can see, Jayne and Gabs debuted here as “female warriors.” At this point, GW didn’t even know what a Space Marine was, so it’s hard to say if they are female Space Marines, but this is the closest you can get officially from GW!

I think it is noticeable that the first Imperial Army troopers from the same time also included some female soldiers.

Unfortunately, they felt the need to call them out as 'female troopers' instead of just 'troopers' like the men.

**Crimson**

shadowsfm wrote:
StudentOfEtherium wrote:
they all wear the same massive and bulky armor either way, so unless they take the helmet off, the difference wouldn't really matter

while thats true in plastic, it can be cringe on tv. do i really want to hear a deep female voice through the helmet and imagine her in the armor?

Yes? What's wrong with it? I don't know who this character is but looks like a space marine.

**Undead_Love-Machine**

Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Unfortunately, they felt the need to call them out as 'female troopers' instead of just 'troopers' like the men.

I'm sorry, what is wrong with calling them female troopers, in this context?

If 99% of the miniatures in a certain line are male, what is the problem with using the word female to describe the few who are female?

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shadowsfm wrote:
StudentOfEtherium wrote:
they all wear the same massive and bulky armor either way, so unless they take the helmet off, the difference wouldn't really matter

while thats true in plastic, it can be cringe on tv. do i really want to hear a deep female voice through the helmet and imagine her in the armor?

What is wrong with hearing a deep female voice? What's wrong with muscular women?

This comment is a bit odd, IMHO

**BrookM**

Hey, kindly take this line of discussion to there HERE or HERE, keep this for general N&R discussion.

**ZergSmasher**

Funny, I posted the same thing asking people to take the female custodes discussion to the thread that was made for it and my posts got nuked from orbit. Granted I was in a bit of a bad mood when I posted and it showed a little...

For the record I have no strong opinion on the matter either way, hence why I was tired of hearing about it. Everyone making mountains out of molehills for sure, on all sides of the argument.

**Dysartes**

Quite a bit of Tau (well, Kroot) on the pre-orders this time:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/21/sunday-preview-the-tau-empire-needs-you/

The Ork MTO is a bit of a surprise, however.

**Ohman**

Was NOT expecting to see these boyz again:

**Dysartes**

Nice to see the return of proper Blood Axe Kommandos.

**Segersgia**

They all used to have the Skull Cap? They all look like Demoman-TF2

**Shakalooloo**

Segersgia wrote:
They all used to have the Skull Cap? They all look like Demoman-TF2

Bein' Blood Axes, dey wore proppa yooniformz!

**The Phazer**

The Ork MTOs are neat.

It would still be nice if the MTOs were in any way predictable or had any kind of reason to them, but still, nice to see these old models.

**MajorWesJanson**

The Phazer wrote:
The Ork MTOs are neat.

It would still be nice if the MTOs were in any way predictable or had any kind of reason to them, but still, nice to see these old models.

Ork mto makes sense starting when the Codex drops. Custodes don't have anything to remake besides a few things from 1st ed iirc.

**StudentOfEtherium**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
The Phazer wrote:
The Ork MTOs are neat.

It would still be nice if the MTOs were in any way predictable or had any kind of reason to them, but still, nice to see these old models.

Ork mto makes sense starting when the Codex drops. Custodes don't have anything to remake besides a few things from 1st ed iirc.

okay but i would love a RT custodes MTO because i wanna pick up one or more of those to use as shield captain but don't want to pay ebay prices

**Matrindur**

€ price for this week:

**Haighus**

Very tempted by the Ork nobz. I always liked those metal models in 'eavy armour.

**RaptorusRex**

Dysartes wrote:
Nice to see the return of proper Blood Axe Kommandos.

Yeah, love their beanies and camo suits.

**CthuluIsSpy**

Seems they have learned nothing and are back to overpricing WHFB sets. Typical GW.

**GoForItPainting**

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**chaos0xomega**

How is that overpriced? They're selling 2x as many models for less than 2x the price of what it cost 10 years ago. The prices basically have never been lower once you account for inflation and everything.

**CthuluIsSpy**

chaos0xomega wrote:
How is that overpriced? They're selling 2x as many models for less than 2x the price of what it cost 10 years ago. The prices basically have never been lower once you account for inflation and everything.

55 euros for a single model is still 55 euros for a single model, and how much are in the troop boxes? How much do you need? If you need 2 to make a proper regiment, like you would often need to do in WHFB 8th ed, then they haven't learned anything as you still need to drop 124 euros on a single regiment.

**Platuan4th**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
How is that overpriced? They're selling 2x as many models for less than 2x the price of what it cost 10 years ago. The prices basically have never been lower once you account for inflation and everything.

55 euros for a single model is still 55 euros for a single model, and how much are in the troop boxes? How much do you need? If you need 2 to make a proper regiment, like you would often need to do in WHFB 8th ed, then they haven't learned anything as you still need to drop 124 euros on a single regiment.

TOW is running closer to 6th ed Unit sizes than 8th Unit sizes.

**angel of death 007**

I think the fact that they released Orks and Custodes at the same time did neither faction any justice. Neither got an army box w/ a codex and there was no battle box like they used to do with two factions.

I was completely underwhelmed by the whole thing, and Orks are my jam.