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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 04:19:47
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 04:38:50
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Well, how's Moon Knight? It's the only Marvel title I have any interest in after being let down hard by X Force.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 05:28:31
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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It's ok I guess. He suffers from multiple personality disorder which I usually don't like to read about but Bendis had an interesting take on it by having those personalities be Spider-Man, Cap and Wolverine. They act as the angel and devil on his shoulders which is neat but I get enough of those guys in my Avengers books. I think the book needs a little something more. A good villian or story arch to tie it all together.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 12:12:53
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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IIRC my current pull list is..
Action Comics
Firestorm
Aquaman
Demon Knights
Captain Atom
Legion Lost
Legion of Superheroes
Legion of Superheroes : forgetsthenameoftheminiseries ( origins ?)
I, Zombie
Swamp Thing
Animal Man
Huntress miniseries
Frankenstein, Agent of S.H.A.D.E.
Resurrection Man
Captain Atom is verging on the drop edge, as is, alas, Legion of Superheroes. There's nothing technically wrong with it, but i think the sheer number of reboots, new origins and a afctor of most of my favourite characters from the series being in Legion Lost has my interest dropping more than Id like.
.. still I guess I'm a heretic as my favourite era is the 5 year gap/post crisis/legionnaires era so..
Will be picking up Batman Inc -- reread Batman and Son, The Black Glove and R.I.P recently.. God I love Morrison ! -- and will try World's Finest as well at least.
Legion Lost I'll stick with but I'm a bit unsure about the incoming new writer.
I also pick up The Boys and Fables in trade,
.. also very happy to read that Danny the Street is seemingly back in the Dc universe, and in Teen Titans too ? Who'd have thunk !?
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 13:21:06
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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reds8n wrote: .. also very happy to read that Danny the Street is seemingly back in the Dc universe, and in Teen Titans too ? Who'd have thunk !?
Wait, wha? Does this mean that the Doom Patrol's past is still in continuity? The Robotman episodes running in My Greatest Adventure would suggest otherwise. :( But I suppose it might not mean anything either way, depending on the details of his appearance. I'll have to give it a look.
You didn't read the Giffen DP series, did you? Danny was in that book, but as Danny the Bungalow after he was demolished except for a single brick. They threw the brick into a house, and voila...Danny the Bungalow.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 13:21:36
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Solahma
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Red, what's your take on Fury of Firestorm? How about Aquaman #6?
Also, I picked up Legion Lost 1-6 last night to get ready for the Culling but I am completely new to the Legion, outside of their appearances in crossovers. I really like Mon-El and Braniac 5 in the New Krypton books (as well as Tellus, whose appearance was more of a recurring cameo). I've read that it's not much of a reboot and hard for the uninitiated. Any advice?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 13:50:18
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/03/14/danny-the-street-appears-in-this-weeks-superboy/
as much as I know.
Heard about the sad fate of Danny, not sure how I feel about that really.
I kind of assumed/hope that Danny is still out there.. somewhere.. with Rebis wandering about whilst Cliff and Jane live in blissful, if chaotic, harmony.
.. one does get sentimental as one gets older eh ?
#6 was the weakest issue of Aquaman so far IMO, but only really as, IMO, the actions and dialogue of the store owner ( worker ?) were a bit too cliched and OTT, although I felt that for a ( ..wait for it...) fish out of water type tale it was well done. Good to sea see Mera get a bit more of the spotlight too. Gorgeous artwork, as ever, and I am intrigued by the forthcoming arc with The Others/his previous team.
Firestorm I am enjoying, I did feel as if the opening arc suddenly shifted, weirdly, at the last minute.
I was pretty certain that Zither and Co. were going to be the villains/bad guys.... and then, almost out of the blue... dad has a job and a fridge full of steak, nice new houses..
.. I kept thinking this would be a trap/hallucination/mind control but t'would seem it is not the case.
Almost as if they'd had to drop or rewrite things quickly ( Simone's departure related perhaps ?) and this was a quick fix to get things where they need to be.
Title has potential, and I like the overall concept and execution of all the various Firestorm forms. the forthcoming Shiva-esque version I think looks pretty cool.
Could perhaps have done without the mahoosive explosion that killed x thousand people. Not from a narrative POV -- fine for the story -- but I am getting a wee bit weary of the amount of death and destruction on such a large scale that seems to be a tad too commonplace in the DC universe right now. I suppose that's just the nature of the beast for now, with everything being ramped up to 11.
Forgot : Also picking up The Shade and will get Earth 2 as well.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 14:57:20
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Solahma
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The store owner was way OTT but that "in your face" conceit is not new to Johns' Aquaman. The book is premised on making the reader feel special because, by virtue of having bought the title, s/he is one of the few who knows how truly awesome Aquaman is. The prop is that everyone else is not only un-special but also a jerk. I'm surprised no antagonist has kicked a puppy (or seal pup) yet, TBH. I like Aquaman but the most exciting thing that's happened so far is Arthur saying they're going after Atlantis. So #6 struck me as a drag/more persecution complex fodder. Johns better get an adventure underway soon because the title has read like racialist propaganda (merman power!) so far.
I, too, was disturbed by #s 5-6 of FoF. This title is always busy contrasting bright colors with dark undertones. Hell, the heroes at their most powerful look pretty villainous. I guess there are no clear bad guys or good guys in a world where nuclear weapons are "up for grabs" rather than the exclusive purview of monolithic superpowers. It's a hard book to read anyway, thanks to Ronnie and Jason never getting along, but I'm going to stick with it despite the gloom. It's a very relevant book, IMO.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Red, I'd recommend reading this little bit of reflection and thinking about FoF. "Compartmentalization" is a useful concept for analyzing not only the plot devices of Zither Tech and the rogue(ish) Russian but also Jason and Ronnie's own psychological obstacles.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, here comes another Dynamite title I'll likely try out:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37543
The Grand Duke, coming soon from Archaia, also seems promising: he Eastern Front during WWII: Oberleutnant Wulf, a young Luftwaffe pilot, is horrified by Nazi barbarism and at odds with his fellow pilots, even as he finds himself taking to the skies to fight the infamous “Night Witches” — the 588th Night Bomber Regiment, the most decorated female unit in the Soviet Air Force. Motivated only by his desire to return home to his daughter, Romy, Wulf tries to survive the increasingly desperate and ferocious Eastern Front, while Lilya, the “Red Witch,” leads her comrades against the German invaders. A Romeo-and-Juliet story set against the backdrop of WWII aerial dogfights.
http://www.archaia.com/archaia-titles/the-grand-duke/
Take a look at some of M. Hugault's artwork here:
http://hidden-in-darkness.forums-actifs.com/t64-romain-hugault
As does Siegfried: A three-part story inspired by Wagner’s classic opera The Ring of the Nibelung. Siegfried, half-god and half-mortal, is a young boy being raised by Mime, one of the last of the dwarf-goblin Nibelungs, in a dark forest with only wolves for friends and family. While his foster parent only wants to live in peace and solitude, Siegfried yearns to discover who his real parents are and live amongst his own kind, not knowing that Odin, father of the Norse gods, has a destiny planned for him: to fight the dragon Fafnir, guardian of the Rheingold.
http://www.archaia.com/archaia-titles/siegfried/
Some pages from Alex Alice's work:
http://www.actuabd.com/IMG/jpg/SIEGFRIED-02_18-27-1.jpg
http://www.actuabd.com/IMG/jpg/SIEGFRIED-02_18-27-2.jpg
http://www.graphivore.be/bgfiles/9782205063509-page2-i400x523.jpg
I have pre-ordered both.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 17:42:14
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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[DCM]
Coastal Bliss in the Shadow of Sizewell
Suffolk, where the Aliens roam.
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Manchu wrote:Well, MDS -- have you read RHatO #6 yet? I just got around to it tonight and found it pretty ironic relative to our earlier conversation. Is Scott Lobdell making fun on his critics? Really? Not yet, will check if its arrived when I get home, my comics seem all over the shop at the mo, some I am getting issue sevens, while others I've only just recieved issue six. Manchu wrote: In the meantime, EVERYBODY GO READ TEEN TITANS! Aye, I think I will have to investigate this one.
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"That's not an Ork, its a girl.." - Last words of High General Daran Ul'tharem, battle of Ursha VII.
Two White Horses (Ipswich Town and Denver Broncos Supporter)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 17:48:47
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Solahma
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I don't know you IRL or anything but I honestly feel you'll like it. If you can, pick up the first two issues as a taste test.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 19:21:00
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Anyone read Suicide Squad 7 yet? If so, thoughts?
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DA:80S+++G+++M++B+I+Pw40k99/re#+D++A+++/fWD255R+++T(T)DM+
 I am Blue/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both selfish and rational. I'm scheming, secretive and manipulative; I use knowledge as a tool for personal gain, and in turn obtaining more knowledge. At best, I am mysterious and stealthy; at worst, I am distrustful and opportunistic. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 19:23:29
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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[DCM]
Coastal Bliss in the Shadow of Sizewell
Suffolk, where the Aliens roam.
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It just went into my pull list at Economic Comics, but only has Batgirl and Batwoman 7 there at the mo.. as painful as it is, waiting till the beginning of next week, when two or three more will be put in there.
Might as well save on the postage.
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"That's not an Ork, its a girl.." - Last words of High General Daran Ul'tharem, battle of Ursha VII.
Two White Horses (Ipswich Town and Denver Broncos Supporter)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 19:29:59
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Solahma
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@deathholydeath: Suicide Squad was a one-issue drop for me. How has it been?
@MDS: How does that work? RHatO #6 came out on 2/15.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 19:42:41
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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[DCM]
Coastal Bliss in the Shadow of Sizewell
Suffolk, where the Aliens roam.
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I have a feeling, on one or two I have recieved them on a second batch, still first printing mind, but they'd not got enough in the first time to cover all subs. They also sometime get hit by delays, not often, but I suspect shipping them over the pond, can sometimes lead to slip ups. I'm pretty confident that in both cases its through no fault of their own mind. Although I might have had Six and not got around to reading it yet, I was distracted a week or so back. It took me a week to get around to reading Batgirl and Batwoman six for example. There is also the possability I read it, but my mind didn't process the story in any lasting sense. I do have an odd feeling I said to Aura something about, he's taking the mic now when reading a comic a couple of weeks ago, will check if that was RHatO six. In which case my minds has just burbled. With a little one in the house (only three/four months) days can blend into one another sometimes.
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"That's not an Ork, its a girl.." - Last words of High General Daran Ul'tharem, battle of Ursha VII.
Two White Horses (Ipswich Town and Denver Broncos Supporter)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 19:45:32
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Where's Alpharius on this matter? Do you have a pull list? Get posting!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 20:57:22
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Manchu wrote:@deathholydeath: Suicide Squad was a one-issue drop for me. How has it been?
Pretty good, but only because of Harley Quinn. Her... incapacitation in #7 raises some issues of whether I'll continue on with it.
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DA:80S+++G+++M++B+I+Pw40k99/re#+D++A+++/fWD255R+++T(T)DM+
 I am Blue/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both selfish and rational. I'm scheming, secretive and manipulative; I use knowledge as a tool for personal gain, and in turn obtaining more knowledge. At best, I am mysterious and stealthy; at worst, I am distrustful and opportunistic. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 21:00:48
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Solahma
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I've heard a lot of criticism about her portrayal in that book, mostly from #1. I didn't find it troubling, myself. I liked her line about the Joker a lot, actually.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 21:36:53
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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[DCM]
Coastal Bliss in the Shadow of Sizewell
Suffolk, where the Aliens roam.
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Ga'h spoilers.
Nah, I'm okay, had a feeling that was coming withn the last couple of issues.
If she is no longer in there, I'll be dropping it. King Shark is someone I never saw before and find amusing. Diablo is probably the most interesting not-Harley character in the book, but Deadshot and the in and out baddie brigade probably aren't enough to keep a long term interest.
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"That's not an Ork, its a girl.." - Last words of High General Daran Ul'tharem, battle of Ursha VII.
Two White Horses (Ipswich Town and Denver Broncos Supporter)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 21:42:04
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Ga'h spoilers.
Nah, I'm okay, had a feeling that was coming withn the last couple of issues.
If she is no longer in there, I'll be dropping it. King Shark is someone I never saw before and find amusing. Diablo is probably the most interesting not-Harley character in the book, but Deadshot and the in and out baddie brigade probably aren't enough to keep a long term interest.
For sure, Deadshot and company aren't all that great. However, King Shark is an endlessly entertaining character. But, realistically, Harley is the star. In any case, #'s 6&7 are definitely worth picking up. They are delightfully twisted.
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DA:80S+++G+++M++B+I+Pw40k99/re#+D++A+++/fWD255R+++T(T)DM+
 I am Blue/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both selfish and rational. I'm scheming, secretive and manipulative; I use knowledge as a tool for personal gain, and in turn obtaining more knowledge. At best, I am mysterious and stealthy; at worst, I am distrustful and opportunistic. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/15 21:46:18
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Coastal Bliss in the Shadow of Sizewell
Suffolk, where the Aliens roam.
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Aye, the army of Harlies cracked me up for an afternoon, would keep chuckling when I thought about that fight.
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"That's not an Ork, its a girl.." - Last words of High General Daran Ul'tharem, battle of Ursha VII.
Two White Horses (Ipswich Town and Denver Broncos Supporter)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/16 02:27:52
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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7 takes it to a whole new level.
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DA:80S+++G+++M++B+I+Pw40k99/re#+D++A+++/fWD255R+++T(T)DM+
 I am Blue/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both selfish and rational. I'm scheming, secretive and manipulative; I use knowledge as a tool for personal gain, and in turn obtaining more knowledge. At best, I am mysterious and stealthy; at worst, I am distrustful and opportunistic. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/16 20:49:10
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Hellblazer,
Fables,
and that's it.
I gave the revived Swamp Thing and Animal Man a brief look, but neither compared sufficiently well to the Alan Moore or Grant Morrison runs to merit my ongoing attention.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/16 23:57:15
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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I went ahead and started getting the Suicide Squad series. And so far, ehh........ The "Harley" portrayal has been crap. They just changed her way too drastically. I miss the oversized mallet and popgurn revolver. Not to mention her outfit and ability to actually blend in to the world as a normal woman sometimes. They screwed that one up what with the "skin condition".
And the new lil blurb of an origin story in #7 was garbage too, more evidence though that supports my following theory.
She is an imposter, see the series hype about an imposter and traitor on the team. Mind you I am just guessing here that it turns out to be her.
My personal theory is that the real Harley and Joker are hiding out somewhere plotting something and drinking fancy umbrella drinks. I didn't read the Detective series about whatever happened to the Joker, but I think I have a pretty good idea.
Harley is my only and favourite comic character, but this version of her is incredibly one dimensional and rather boring.
And what the ^$#&! is up with the little half cape?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/17 11:15:20
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37605
Wondercon is this weekend, apparently.
from the above DC panel
Red Hood and the Outlaws," which Lobdell characterized as his favorite, will send Starfire into space as "Roy and Jason are stung to learn she's this very feared, respected commander of a space ship and her reputation is such that entire armadas will turn in another direction when she shows up," he said. "She's that awesome."
...err..okay.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/17 16:16:13
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That's what happens when you employ the writers of early-90s X-Men. Prepare for a bonanza of expoisitory dialogue and pouches.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/17 20:14:21
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
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And a lack of feet on all the characters
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/18 09:55:21
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Not much sense in posting my pull list, since comics are packed differently in Germany and about a year late or so anyway. We just reached Flashpoint.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/18 10:07:14
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Well I'am waiting for the 3rd number of the SW Knights of the Old Republic series. Read a preview that pretty much hinted at Griff (maybe Jarael, fingers crossed) returning to the series so I'am looking forward to that. This is the first series I got into after my mate leant me the graphic novel versions of the last series. I have to admit the slow pace of release is irksome and partly agree with him that it might have been better to just wait for the graphic novel versions to be released. Been pretty good so far, interesting in whats happened to Zayne and introducing a fairly interesting villain to the plot. So this one should be a blast.
Personally after reading Revan and from what I gather about TOR I expect the series to divulge more about the Mandalorians links to the True Sith empire which were already hinted at quite early in the previous season.
BTW how many comics make up a graphic novel for dark horse?
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Starting Sons of Horus Legion
Starting Daughters of Khaine
2000pts Sisters of Silence
4000pts Fists Legion
Sylvaneth A forest
III Legion 5000pts
XIII Legion 9000pts
Hive Fleet Khadrim 5000pts
Kabal of the Torn Lotus .4000pts
Coalition of neo Sacea 5000pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/18 12:13:23
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Unsurprisingly (but far from unjustifiably) vehement interview with Alan Moore at Co.Create: http://www.fastcocreate.com/1679856/alan-moore-on-watchmen-s-toxic-cloud-and-creativity-v-big-business
Alan Moore wrote:“It seems a bit desperate to go after a book famous for its artistic integrity. It’s a finite series,” says Moore. “Watchmen was said to actually provide an alternative to the superhero story as an endless soap opera. To turn that into just another superhero comic that goes on forever demonstrates exactly why I feel the way I do about the comics industry. It’s mostly about franchises. Comic shops these days barely sell comics. It’s mostly spin-offs and toys."
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“The same is true of music and cinema,” he adds. “It seems that every movie is a remake of something that was better when it was first released in a foreign language, as a 1960s TV show, or even as a comic book. Now you’ve got theme park rides as the source material of movies. The only things left are breakfast cereal mascots. In our lifetime, we will see Johnny Depp playing Captain Crunch.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/18 13:34:36
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Madrak Ironhide
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