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2010/12/23 20:04:33
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Help me out here... HOW was anyone supposed to guess that?
Were there clues sprinkled about somewhere?
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2010/12/23 22:39:54
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Barnes and Noble has Prospero Burns. Picked up mine today.
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Grey Knights--7000 W14 L13 D1
Beasts of Chaos--4000
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2010/12/23 22:40:32
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Alpharius wrote:Help me out here... HOW was anyone supposed to guess that?
Were there clues sprinkled about somewhere?
Yes. You missed them because you're old!
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2010/12/24 13:15:27
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Just for the record, so to speak : the artwork we're seeing on the next Nagash book isn't the finished item, it's really little more than a hurried off placeholder piece.
God King is very satisfying as a book, I think MacNeill pulls this off remarkably well. 
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2010/12/24 13:33:22
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Still working my way through God King, being sick isn't exactly helping much, but so far it's great. We all know how it ends, but still, good stuff.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2010/12/24 17:37:41
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Thanks for the reminder about GOD-KING - I totally forgot about that book!
This thread rocks for many, many reasons - that being a big one!
Also, my local Barnes and Noble FINALLY has PROSPERO BURNS in stock, but there is NO way I'm going near it now - I'd be in traffic for about 2 hours + if I so dared...
Monday it is then!
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2010/12/24 17:42:15
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
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BL recently tossed up all their releases until January 2012, including two reprints: Faith & Fire and Defenders of Ulthuan. These are to coincide with their sequels being released alongside them.
Chiggity-check them here: http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/coming-soon?filter_action=3&filter_value=2
I am a bit sad that Nagash Immortal isn't out until August next year. 
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2010/12/24 17:48:42
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Alpharius wrote:Thanks for the reminder about GOD-KING - I totally forgot about that book!
This thread rocks for many, many reasons - that being a big one!
Also, my local Barnes and Noble FINALLY has PROSPERO BURNS in stock, but there is NO way I'm going near it now - I'd be in traffic for about 2 hours + if I so dared...
Monday it is then!
Or you could buy it, or indeed any and all of the HH books as an ebook RIGHT THIS VERY SECOND !
http://www.blacklibrary.com/Digital/Horus_Heresy_eBooks
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2010/12/24 20:40:21
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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[DCM]
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I enjoyed God King, was a good read from start to finish. Its got me pumped for Nagash the Immortal, wish it was coming faster!
The interview at the end was pretty neat too. Although I was strangely weary that they are going to continue the Sigmar series... I'd personally like to see them move the Time of Legends books into the War of Vengeance/War of the Beard. Dwarves got some love in Malekith and some solid spots in Sigmars books, but a true showcase of the dwarf empire at war in their prime would be awesome.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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2010/12/24 23:40:31
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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reds8n wrote:Alpharius wrote:Thanks for the reminder about GOD-KING - I totally forgot about that book!
This thread rocks for many, many reasons - that being a big one!
Also, my local Barnes and Noble FINALLY has PROSPERO BURNS in stock, but there is NO way I'm going near it now - I'd be in traffic for about 2 hours + if I so dared...
Monday it is then!
Or you could buy it, or indeed any and all of the HH books as an ebook RIGHT THIS VERY SECOND !
http://www.blacklibrary.com/Digital/Horus_Heresy_eBooks
I could do that, but then I'd have to wait for it to show up!
And who knows how long that would take!
All of Abnett's stuff goes right to the top of the "Read Now" list too...
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2010/12/27 16:11:02
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Finally done with God King, good show.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2010/12/27 23:58:40
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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Just finished Prospero Burns and I have to admit that I never had much love for the Space Wolves but it makes me see them in a different light. While still portraiting the wolves as feral through Leman Russ Abnett shows a more sophisticated side that belongs to them. When compared to the William King novels Abnett just does so much better in his portrayal of the Wolves.
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2010/12/28 02:19:23
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Fixture of Dakka
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I've yet to get Prospero Burns (damnit!) but so far I've heard mixed reviews about it, I still look forward to it nonetheless.
At the mo' I'm reading Path of the Warrior (Eldar) and it's pretty good, provides some nice insight on the Eldar and not too much action.
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2010/12/28 06:22:44
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Prospero Burns is an awesome novel, but it messes with your expectations. Just approach it with an open mind and you'll enjoy it.
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2010/12/28 13:08:41
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Generalstoner wrote: When compared to the William King novels Abnett just does so much better in his portrayal of the Wolves.
No surprise there! 
It is on top of my " TO READ...NOW!" list!
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2010/12/30 18:50:48
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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So far (166 pages in) I'm finding Prospero Burns rather alienating and weird.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2010/12/30 21:33:02
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
In the chaotic wastes also known as Canada
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I just got my copy of prospero burns, I hope it's good, i've been hearing mixed revues about it
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DOOMFART's Drunken Rugby Player FOR DOOMFART! FOR GES! FOR DAKKA!!!! Kanluwen wrote:Cadian Blood and Soul Hunter?
They're like kidnapping someone, and forcefeeding them heroin until they're hooked.
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2010/12/30 21:39:45
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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To me it's more a Descent of Angels (which I love btw!) the way it starts. Definitely a slow burner.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
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2010/12/30 22:16:29
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Have to agree with BrookM here, I find his forced use of terminology and language with little explanation in the first quarter of the book very annoying and unneccesary. It really made for a confusing and uncomfortable read. Jumping around with little explanation of what is going on with the character, and barely touching on the SW themselves also sucks a bit.
I am over halfway through now, and although it get's better once he finally starts explaining the terminology and what's going on is being explained and expanded a bit more, it is more enjoyable. The thing is, the way he is writing them, they just don't feel very space-wolfy to me.
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2010/12/31 00:34:14
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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I'm loving it myself - though I'm only 30 pages in.
You guys - relax!
THIS IS ABNETT!
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2010/12/31 01:41:23
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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It's alienating and weird right up until the end and then it all makes sense.
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2010/12/31 09:31:31
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Alpharius wrote:THIS IS ABNETT!
Meaning he can get away with a lot?
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2010/12/31 13:04:24
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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BrookM wrote: Definitely a slow burner.
Indeed.
As I said I do think the title is somewhat misleading, but overall I think it's a great tome, ther's a fair old bit to discuss, some cool revelaltions -- see Russ' comments at the end !
All the jumping back and forth and cuts is deliberate and, IMO, is a good technique to help convey the atmosphere of the story.
Oh,
New eBooks available today - Necropolis by Dan Abnett, Daemonslayer by William King and Darkblade: Reaper of Souls by Mike Lee & Dan Abnett
They are cracking on with these eh ?
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2010/12/31 13:16:54
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BrookM wrote:Alpharius wrote:THIS IS ABNETT!
Meaning he can get away with a lot?
More or less!
I have complete faith in Abnett...
And a few others too now. A D-B is on that list now and...
...well, I'm sure there's a few others from the BL stable there too!
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2010/12/31 17:02:48
Subject: Re:Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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I wonder if Prospero Burns might get a similar reaction to Legion, a book which upset the applecart somewhat, and not everyone is comfortable with that.
Many people would prefer the 'Legends of the Space Marine' type stuff, which while enjoyable, just trots out the same old stuff and breaks no new boundaries.
Personally, although I think there should be some restraint, I am glad for people like Abnett, and more lately Dembski-Bowden. They are introducing new concepts and imagination, keeping things fresh, into a universe which might well become stagnant if the storytellers of Black Library are shackled too much.
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2010/12/31 17:33:45
Subject: Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Very true. I actually felt 'a thousand sons' was very slow in the middle, and not quite as good as I'd heard. But when I finished it, I needed more and knew all the reviews were correct.
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2010/12/31 17:45:48
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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One thing I really enjoyed about Soul Hunter was ADBs tie ins to the HH novels.
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'Fenris. The fortress of the Sixth Legion Astartes, called - forgive me - the Space Wolves. The fortress is known as the Fang. Am I right?'
'Yes. Except only an idiot calls it the Fang.' - Skarssen Skarssenson - Prospero Burns |
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2010/12/31 18:49:27
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Fixture of Dakka
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I can't recall any mention of Falkus and the Justerian (Was there?) but otherwise, I agree and would like to see it more often...
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2010/12/31 19:53:06
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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'Justaerin', warned Malek. They knew the term. The elite terminator-armored squad of the Sons of Horus 1st Company. p. 151
and the next page
'Falkus,' Talos said slowly, 'I am Talos of the VIII Legion.'
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'Fenris. The fortress of the Sixth Legion Astartes, called - forgive me - the Space Wolves. The fortress is known as the Fang. Am I right?'
'Yes. Except only an idiot calls it the Fang.' - Skarssen Skarssenson - Prospero Burns |
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2010/12/31 20:34:41
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Fixture of Dakka
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Aaaah, thanks. Clears that one up. 
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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