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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/29 08:13:42
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, Painting advanced)
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'm still not sure if I should do the lava I did before, but I think I'm kinda gonna have to. Pain in the arse but that's the way of things. I've been swapping back and forth but my hands are about 1/3 of the way to being shot again. Good times. lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/29 08:32:06
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, Painting advanced)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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This is the first time I've looked at this thread in weeks, and it's too bad because I think you've made a fundamental flaw with your paint scheme but it obviously isn't anything you'll be able to change at this point sadly.
But the issue is this:
If the paint scheme is trying to represent an extreme lighting situation of the models basking in the glow of lava, the crevices of the model should be black, not bright yellow as the glow of lava would create a whole bunch of deep shadows all over the person standing near it.
In hindsight, I think you should have basecoated in black, and then your first heavy coat or drybrush should have been the yellow and then work your way up as you have to this point.
As it stands now, the models just look a little strange because the crevices of the model are all light-colored when everything the human eye knows about such a situation tells us the crevices should be dark in this circumstance.
But anyway, good luck with this!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/29 09:24:39
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, Painting advanced)
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Fixture of Dakka
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That was the original idea, but I shelved it in favor of a different approach. I think that was somewhere in the middle of the thread.
Instead I decided that they aren't basking in the glow of lava, they are arising from it. I had to modify the paint scheme to accommodate that change from outer glow to inner glow.
Hope that makes sense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 04:32:18
Subject: Re:Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, Painting advanced)
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Fixture of Dakka
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With the last drybrush of black on.
Now which base?
I'm leaning towards the white one. I like how it looks better.
Thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 04:44:09
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Hungry Ork Hunta Lying in Wait
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I'm not too crazy about either one. To go along with what you are trying to achive, I'd like to see a light orange dry brush followed with a red. But very sparingly and just on the edges of the base.
HFN
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 04:59:58
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
Well I kind of moved near Toronto, actually.
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So why are they on fire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 05:09:52
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I've been sorta following this and just can not make any sense of it.
You are making a Sisters/IG/Grey Hunters army and trying to get the "arising from the fires" effect. Correct?
How from your fluff point of view is this possible. I mean sure you can do what you want, but realistically how can this be done? Mortals coming out of fire.....
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/08/30 05:10:56
2012 tourney record:
Eldar 18W-2L-5D Overall x4
Deathwing 21W-7L-6D Overall x4 Best General x1 Best Appearance x3, 19th place Adepticon 40k Champs.
Space Wolves 2W-0L-1D Best Painted x1
Armies:
1850+ pts. 3000+ pts. 2000+
40k bits go to my ebay... http://stores.shop.ebay.com/K-K-Gaming-and-Bits |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 06:03:56
Subject: Re:Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
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On the one hand I def. see Old Man's point, in that the the Emperor would have to be showing mucho love to all these individuals to preserve them through all that heat. However, I have never been much of a fluff hobbyist (really didn't want to use bunny, or nazi; what else is there????). I think that this paint scheme is looking much better than some of the previous efforts, and seeing all the models tied together like that is always a plus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 06:06:30
Subject: Re:Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
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I don't think I would have gone to such a deep, rich red up top there like you did. However, to be honest I think the fact that you did made it look better than what I might have ended up with. I did something similar to this with some sallies for my lizards. Started with a medium gray base coat and just started drybrushing up up and away. Came out ok. I might go back now and throw some richer red in there after seeing this scheme.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 06:06:35
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Multispectral Nisse
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It's to weird for me. I kinda like the Idea if different colors . But it is all painted so good job. And this cant happen they'd burn up in the for reals world Personally like the 2nd one. 1st looks like mustard was put on base. 2nd looks like lava. I like how 41st mill. breaks all Laws in the Reals world. Dont get me wrong bet it was hard i'm just not a fan. Thought you where doing Pure GK ?
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Hydra Dominatus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 06:07:45
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Fixture of Dakka
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I usually do cool blues on my models. So I've been experimenting alot the past couple years, staying away from that.
My Eldar are very different from the norm. Some like, some don't. I want this to be different from the norm of blue sisters, silver grey knights, and camo guard. Call me crazy.
Why are they on fire? They are fighting on a death world.
How can they be on fire? The Emperor Protects.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 06:12:32
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Multispectral Nisse
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K and why dont you have Las/ Plasma in your squads. he does protect but that close to lava and there f-ed lol Do you hate special weapons that much ? There Amazing btw las/plas. Good luck at GT Wish you did Pure GK
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Hydra Dominatus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 06:14:58
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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the paint job is well executed...
that said I just dont like it sorry bro.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 06:16:49
Subject: Re:Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Fixture of Dakka
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 06:38:51
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I applaud your willingness to try something new and off the beaten path, but......
.....I just cringe when looking at the models.
No offense! Keep doing what makes you happy.
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2012 tourney record:
Eldar 18W-2L-5D Overall x4
Deathwing 21W-7L-6D Overall x4 Best General x1 Best Appearance x3, 19th place Adepticon 40k Champs.
Space Wolves 2W-0L-1D Best Painted x1
Armies:
1850+ pts. 3000+ pts. 2000+
40k bits go to my ebay... http://stores.shop.ebay.com/K-K-Gaming-and-Bits |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 06:42:59
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Fixture of Dakka
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It's easier when you see the whole army. If I wanted a golden demon entry for each model, I'd probably have done any of a dozen other lava effects. Stippling, stenciling, I mean the possibilities are endless really.
All look very nice. They also don't look as awesome once you aren't looking at them from 3" away. Across the tabletop is the look I'm going for. Looks good? Pass!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 08:02:36
Subject: Re:Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Fixture of Dakka
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So I figured out what I'm going to do to finish up.
White on the bases and non-cork areas. Then a darker yellow on the booties, to separate out from the lighter yellow on the cork areas. I haven't done the darker yellow yet, I'll touch it up later.
How things would look (more or less) with a light source underneath...like a lava lake deep inside the death world.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 08:05:27
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
Well I kind of moved near Toronto, actually.
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Stupid question but I take it it is a red sky. Makes sense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 08:09:43
Subject: Re:Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Well actually...this was my inspiration for what my death world would look like. That and IT'S inspiration, the final battle between Obi-wan and Anakin on the lava planet, one of the coolest 'sets' in a movie...ever.
http://members.shaw.ca/lavaterrain/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 08:21:20
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
Well I kind of moved near Toronto, actually.
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Definately cool. You can play with a lighted board and dim lights.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 08:45:18
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Not with my friends. I'm too sexy.
Now you may puke.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 09:18:29
Subject: Re:Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Screamin' Stormboy
Thornton Colorado
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This is a real cool project you have going here...
I would love to have my orcs destroyed by them
keep up the good work.
Twister....
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Not only do the rules say your wrong but they also say your a DICK!
2000 points Speed freeks
6000 points Wytch cult
2000 points Scions of Mars
Orcland Raiders
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 09:20:21
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Sadly the Orks are one of the few armies I excel at killing with this army. Unless it's a Deffrolla spam army, then nevermind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 12:31:47
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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so why did you clean the models at the beginning this thread?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/08/30 12:32:18
qwekel wants to get bigger, please click on him and level him up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 12:34:35
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Crazed Wardancer
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Now you've actually posted a better focused close up, I really like the idea. Not sure the pure white bases do it for me though, might need something on a colour variation on them...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 12:50:05
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Multispectral Nisse
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so you can be beat I see.
Like the close ups a lil bit better lighting is ok.
shouldve done the lava darker and brunt like you did before.
and should've done pure GK
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Hydra Dominatus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 13:00:15
Subject: Re:Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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I just want to say that Imperial Guard, Grey Knights, and Sisters emerging from Lava is awesome. In fact it's *insert profanity of your choice*-ing awesome.
The Emperor protects indeed!
I think a darker yellow will help a lot on the feet of the models.
Will you be doing anything else to the cork though? Right now it looks like they're standing on cheese to me, and i'm not sold on that color of yellow. Are they supposed to be standing on rocks (the cork) that is floating in the lava? I thought one of the pics you posted show the guard appearing to emerge from the cork (feet were hidden?) like the cork WAS the lava?
Why white bases? It doesn't seem to fit the lava theme to me (is it white hot...?) I would go with black or maybe like I dunno some other lava color.
Anyway, cool army and I'm really envisioning this truly hellish lava death world. Sounds like these boys need to fight some daemons!
Will you be making some lava terrain too?
Edit: Are you using GW paints? Was your middle band of red with Blood Red (or equivalent?) also what did you use for the dark red?
You have inspired me to make my own lava model, albeit just one. I'm going to make a lava ork boy  Thanks for the inspiration.
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Waagh! Lagduf
Sons of Vulkan
Cadian Mountain Division
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 14:55:19
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If anything....this gives a whole new meaning to "waiting in the weeds" to pounce on opponent.
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2012 tourney record:
Eldar 18W-2L-5D Overall x4
Deathwing 21W-7L-6D Overall x4 Best General x1 Best Appearance x3, 19th place Adepticon 40k Champs.
Space Wolves 2W-0L-1D Best Painted x1
Armies:
1850+ pts. 3000+ pts. 2000+
40k bits go to my ebay... http://stores.shop.ebay.com/K-K-Gaming-and-Bits |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 15:10:29
Subject: Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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doesnt their skin scorch from the freakin hot lava?:x
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qwekel wants to get bigger, please click on him and level him up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/30 16:29:04
Subject: Re:Stelek's Army Project (Updated August 29, On to basing questions)
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
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The Emperor Protects, enmitee. The Emperor Protects. He will not allow His followers to die until they have done the job He requires of them.
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