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what ferret said.

This has so much potential to be an awesome looking army, from what we saw in the WIP building stages.

The paint scheme makes it...blah...

I think its the lack of definition anywhere that is the key problem. Like Ferret said it would be hard to differentiate anything from outside of a foot or so.

This army, done with muted grays and borwns would have looked phenomenal in my opinion.

If nothing else at least finish the bases on these guys, it can do nothing but improve them.

Very interesting effect you've achieved here. I think the army looks good as a whole when viewed from afar (read: typical view distance when playing 40k). I'm not keen on the bases however. I think a more realistic molten rock setting would have sold your concept a bit better.

This scheme would have been brilliant if it had been executed on a vanilla marine army. I could almost believe that a force of totally enclosed power armoured warriors could emerge from lava. When it comes to the basic guardsmen, I just don't buy it. I mean I always envisioned that the power of the Emperor was more of an unseen force. Is the emperor really protecting them or do they just believe that the Emperor is watching over them? Your army shatters the mystery and makes it plain that the Emperor (or some other force) is actually physically protecting these guardsmen, otherwise there is no way they could survive close contact with lava.

Overall, great idea.

Me no like, but it is not my army, so I dont have to.

Anyway my comments:

THE CONCEPT

The concept is just poor, this much I will criticise you on. Guard in lava is impossible even by 40K standards of possiblity unless they were in fact all 'counts as' daemons.

One way of looking at this arny is for them all to be martyrs who died by castying themselves and their wargear into purifying fire as an act of devotion to the Emperor. A very Imperial thing to do really, those who are worthy have the privilege of ritually casting themselves into a furnace. Worthiness is in accordance to their measure, so great deeds are expected of a Grey Knight before the order will accept him and the furnace consume him. A guardsman who merely stands inthe face of chaos might be held worthy enough to invited pass through the fire.
Anyone daring to do so is of course completely burned in a horrible death. But this is not the end if they are pure and their faith is true.

The purpose of the Cult is to produce eternal warriors that can never truly be slain and will rise time and again for the Emperors service, so long as there is the faith to summon them and a volcano nearby. Then at time of need they are summoned by the prayerful to form out of lava and rise up to fight for the Emperor's need.

It matters not what the wargear is, for its shoots no more, the lascannon and lasgun alike are just now shapes of lava, the measure of the man, dictates what status of daemon the model counts as. A righteous servant of the Emperor with a club of burning rock looking like their old guns are the standard lesser daemons. Grey Knights come back as something progressively more vicious.

All this list lacks is a form of righeous dreadnought or two or three for a greater daemon.

As a whacky normal Inquisitor army this army fails.
As an excuse to use the Chaos demon rules as an an Imperial army this army is a winner. It would be great in Apocalypse games.

You chaos scum get daemons. The Eldar get one daemon, now we servents of the Emperor get daemons too, and they are true loyalists!

THE PAINTJOB.

It is looking better than before, the orange liquid lava made the guard look like they were surfing piecrust. However I do think you need to mod those bases, the lava crust itself should be near black with the red or white holy fire lava beneath.

However it is an effect that could easily go wrong, and artistic colour progression from dark to light does work a bit in its own way.

What you need is for someone top photoshop your army pictures and colour inthe bases so we can get a look at the alternatives. Then if it looks good to you you could blacken the bases with minimum prior risk of wrecking the paintjob you have currently attained.

Stelek, are they IG carrying HB's in 1 arm? 0_o
if so then how does that one work? a marine cant manage that.

paintjob:

ok, it may grow, but at the moment i hate it, lacks deffinition, style, or any actual appearence for that matter.
the bases are blinding, i suppose you can put your opponent off with those.
but the army just lacks anything positive except the structure.
everything else has gone to the dogs.

just paint up some of the weapons / carapace, no matter how strong the lighting from the lava is it wouldnt drain every lat piece of colour.
or, as suggested, use them as daemons would make a great khorne look.
but alas, these are guard, and i think someone was just trying to find a querky paintjob to cover up a "cant be arsed" attitude towards real painting.

well, rant over

JD21290 wrote:
but alas, these are guard, and i think someone was just trying to find a querky paintjob to cover up a "cant be arsed" attitude towards real painting.

After the amount of effort Stelek has been trough to get to this "effect" we know that it is not the lazy option, but if I saw the army for the first time I would be tempted to think that.

Orlanth, ive been watching this thread as it went, and the finished product looks very basic, it could have been achieved with less work in a shorter time.
it was just a different way of paintng.

The dudes with the heavy bolters are supposed to be gun servitors. The heavy bolter isn't held up by one arm, it is their arm.

so its a cadain with a HB glued inplace instead of an arm and called a gun serv? 0_o

Apparently, yes. But that's not the biggest thing I'd be confused about if I had to face this army.

thay look like thar on fire

I like the concept of it. If they bases were literally white-hot, the guardsmen would be incinerated. Actually, if you can "see" cracks of lava in the ground, you'd die of heat. SW III Bugged me for that reason, they're inches away from liquid rock and not even sweating. Anyway, darken the bases to look like most of it has cooled solid, and like JD21290 said, paint a little color on the models. I'm thinking a wash or a light ink that adds some color, but leaves the lava shading.

I didn't read every word of every post, though. Was there a fluff reason the bases were white?