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*Vomits*
(it's Nurgle, so that's a good thing )

I like TED's skin a lot. Nice job on that...

Why do I get the feeling that he's overcompensating for something, though. LOL


Good stuff.


Eric

hehehe me? overcompensating!!

he is called ted cos a friend of mine called it "The Erection of Death" lol

thanks for the comments

Really fantastic conversions, but to be honest I prefer them during the wash stages. I think they look great!

I'm not too keen on the final white, it seems too clean? Will you be weathering and dirtying the white at all?

Hi Gundam-Mecha. I do see your point about the white being too clean for nurgle. the basic idea for my army was that they represent the Death Guard the day after they turned to nurgle. So the unpainted Ceramite (which is white) has yet to be covered in the green moss/rot/puss/mess of nurgle but is already 'on its way'.
Anyway thats the basic idea.


OK here we go some pics for you, all still very WIP

First up the second to last batch of PM's to paint:



I choose to paint the helmet of the guy on the left rusted metal simply becasue I thought it would look cool, an old dive suit vibe, despite my own rule to have all the armour painted white. It does kinda look like he has simply bolted on a big heavy metal helmet to his armour.....so I think its allowed


Two shots of these guys, one with the icon and one up close:



This guy has my first ever effort at painting a rotten nurgle fabric, I think its worked ok...but the paint needed to be thinner and just slightly less heavy. Another lesson learnt


And now we come to my first Dreadnought. I think its working out pretty well actually (I got really nervous about painting it!) all the stripey white is done with just the details, touch ups etc to do now. What do you all think?





Lastly I left these out, I bought them with my last order:



Couple of questions for you all,

1) If I equip a PM with a bolter and power weapon (like an Asp Champ) would you have a problem with me using him as a plain old PM and NOT an Asp Champ? This way I have a bit of flexibility with my squads.

2) When you paint a dead marine helmet on the base of your chaos lord how do you do the eye lenses? If i paint the red lenses with the normal highlights etc it will look like the marine is alive right? So id would be better to shade the red and add no highlights at all for a more 'dead' look....do you agree, what do you all do?

Thanks so much for your help and support

yeah,
That Dread looks Awesome!

Panic...

phillpowell wrote:Hi Gundam-Mecha. I do see your point about the white being too clean for nurgle. the basic idea for my army was that they represent the Death Guard the day after they turned to nurgle. So the unpainted Ceramite (which is white) has yet to be covered in the green moss/rot/puss/mess of nurgle but is already 'on its way'.
Anyway thats the basic idea.

The whole pre-heresy scheme is cool, but perhaps some kind of light staining to tone down the white? Right now its very strong. You could stain it with an oil wash, a little bit of very diluted thinned burnt umber would really bring some warmth to the colours and blend them in a bit maybe? Or you could just use a very thinned wash of citadel colour or citadel wash? Griphonne sepia maybe? I think even some stain effects done in the corners over the white would help, like drips or splatter stains?

I understand your aim with the project and the background reasons, but as with the above photo the first image of them green is just beautiful, really nice... and then they go white. It's just my personal opinion but for me I really love your first stage more.

phillpowell wrote:2) When you paint a dead marine helmet on the base of your chaos lord how do you do the eye lenses? If i paint the red lenses with the normal highlights etc it will look like the marine is alive right? So id would be better to shade the red and add no highlights at all for a more 'dead' look....do you agree, what do you all do?

Thanks so much for your help and support

I'd say its really up to you. You could argue that lenses in a power helmet are not bright red because they are "alive" just becuase thats the colour of the lense. Much like bright lenses on sunglasses they don't change colour when you take them off and put them on a table say. Light wouldn't really come through the lense to make them bright as the marines head is directly behind. Auto senses could illuminate them a little but if you look at the example of H.U.D displays on modern aircraft and armour thats unlikely.

You could go the route of dulled dark red with some strong sharp highlights where the light catches the surface maybe? I think though that the fact it's a severed head would make it pretty clear that the Marine was far from alive .

amazing color-scheme and paintjob

well Gundam-Mecha, I guess the only thing to do is try it your way and see what i think of it. so i shall give one of my boys a light wash and the decide whether to stick or twist

thanks for taking the time to post

phill

A little update for you, the PM's are painted up, all that is left to do is the back packs and some work on the bases:




I really like the way the 'diver' came out, and I have a cool back pack that will give him a rusted metal halo!


This is what I never get right, I had finished the stripey white and all I had left to do was touch up the messy bits, highlight the green finish the rust etc etc. So why is it that takes 5 times longer than I think it will? I always think I'm just about done once the white goes on when in fact I am only about two thirds!

Also I have finished painting the dread! these pics show the base wet with water effects which is why it looks funny. The only thing left to do is another coat or two of that and then green around the edge of the base!



Unfortunantly at this point things went a little wrong. I had to move all my stuff (painting table, bitz etc etc) because I have some curtains to hang at the window I paint next to. I didnt want to take a risk with my finished models so I moved them into the kitchen to keep them safe. I dropped the dreadnought just as I was entering the kitchen and it landed on the tiled floor and not the soft thick carpet. I know have a dreadnought in 4 bits and with some damage to the paint.

I am, GUTTED!

PS. Gundam-Mecha i have tried it out and decided i prefer to stick with what i am doing, but thanks for the thought

ok the good news is all the PM's are now finished and i am just waiting for the basing materials to dry etc etc.

Th dread i managed to fix up as good as new i think and again i am just waiting for the base to dry so i should have an update on wednesday

only 7 more to go before i can build something new!

Love the combo of old and new.

ok update time, some finished models!!!!







and these are the last two, the guy on the left is one of my all time favourites, i really like the big rusted iron helmet and the halo on the back pack works really well i think:



my first Dreadnought





and a close up of his base:

something I have learnt is the water effects stuff is a bit delicate. I put just a tad too much on in one go and it hasn't dried rock hard as it should but is still hard enough to be ok.
The good news though is once you have mixed a batch of the water effects up, as long as you cover it well enough it doesnt set for days and you can still use it . in fact it gets slowly thicker so you have a bit more control over how you use it! Sweet

anyway thoughts are as ever welcome

phill

Amazing job, great thread.

Fantastic!

thanks SsevenN!

ok so FINALLY my foam from 'Battle Foam' arrived! it only took 6 weeks (and not the 5 days they said was likely) anyway.

firstly a little warning to anyone from the UK ( i dont know about any other countries). I got hit by a VAT charge on them as they came through Custums, which sucks, but what sucks even more is that Parcel-Force then charged me extra because they had to process the Customs charge. I got a bill of £25 in the post or they would send my foam back to the states :(. Thats on top of the delivery charge from Battle Foam.

Anyway:




The other trouble is not all my boys fit inside the foam i bought for them, so this tray is meant for bikes but currently has some marines in it:


and finally:

I was a bit sad to see that my rhino's wouldnt fit in the tray 'cos they have the dozer blades on them :(

oh yes and a:

to carry them all in!
I think I will in future by the foam from Sabol simply 'cos its too damn expensive to have foam shipped from the USA, even if its better. And the foam is good, and the "Death Guard" wording is cool

can we see a close up of the vindicator

hey typhus there are closeups of all my models in this thread.

here is a simple tutorial showing you how I do the bases for my PM's and my thinking behind it:
Ok so my basic idea was KEEP IT SIMPLE! Not being great at this sort of thing I didn't want to spend so long painting my boy's only to ruin the look with a poor base. So I spent some time thinking about what to do and came up with the idea of a planet struck by bio-virus bombs from orbit before my boys invaded in force. So no plants or grass etc, instead a green 'goo' meant to represent whats left of the rich flora and fauna of a once beautiful planet. So grey slate/rubble and 'goo' it was
some pics:
er.....a base (normally this would be white from the spray under coat I give my models):

Then I needed some base colours and I just liked the way the tin bitz and camo green work as a pair. Both are nurgly and kinda alien worldly. I apply them ramdomly:

Next up some PVA glue leaving bits of the base bare to act as 'pools' for the 'goo', again this is random:

Dip the base in the slate:

And shake off the excess:

Let this dry completely (I just leave it overnight) and then mix up some GW Water Effects (W.E.) with Thraka Green wash (the greener you want it the more you add):

And apply it to the base covering the bare area totally and over some/all/or none of the slate:

When its dry it looks like this:

A coat of Orkhide green from the foundation paint range is added to the rim (to tie in with the armour trim of my boy's) and a second, now dry, coat of the W.E:

Then a spray of Puity seal (I spray all my models with this stuff):

and lastly a coat of gloss 'Ard Coat is painted on only over the W.E.:

which dries leaving the slime looking wet:

Simple and effective for rank and file troops:

For bigger models like terminators I did some larger pieces of slate and at least two coats on W.E. sometimes three:

And for my dreadnought base I painted it to match the colour of the slate on my other models bases and then just added a few coats of the W.E again:

In the future when I get some HQ and want to add some more detail I will likely add some Space Marine helmets or bigger, more interesting items of masonary.

Do you just super glue them onto the base?

Im confused to how they stick on the uneven surface D:
( mine sometimes doesnt even stay on flat ones!)

yeah,
phil the bases look good!
I've been using Wet Effects my slugs skin... I've been messing about with Wet effects and mixing it with gloss varnish to varing degrees of success and failure, I have some problems with Air bubbles.
I'm going to try mixing in green and brown washs like you have...

Panic...

LunaHound: I glue my PM's to the base BEFORE I work on the base. I did this base on its own so you could see it clearer in the tutorial.

Panic: I have never mixed W.E. with gloss varnish....what are you hoping to get out of mixing them? As for adding washes to the W.E. its very east AND if you draw the end of your brush through the mix in a figure of 8 style you can achieve a 'marble' effect which I hope to use on some models in the future.

ok so an update for you.
I have made a decision about my terminator lord after a lot of time and effort spent working on him I did this:

I kept the gun 'cos its a cool gun and the base 'cos its a big base and I am sure it will come in handy. The rest is in the bin. Bottom line is I hated it. I couldnt paint it to anything like a good look and I was so sick of it looking at me with those accusing eyes!
I feel much, much better now.
My last batch of PM's is coming along nicely with really only the water effects taking so long to dry holding them up now. This last unit has been a REAL slog. I think knowing that these are the last ones to paint before I can make something cool again has really made the painting a hard job rather than a fun task:

I need a HQ for my army and the fastest way to get one was to put together a FW model rather than building my own so I did this:

I cannot tell you how god it felt to be putting something together, it was such a relief it made me smile the rest of the day! And I managed to get most of the painting on my PM's done while waiting for glue to dry etc etc.
For the record this is my first ever attempt at a 'scenic' character base!
Anyway thats what I have been up to, soon I shall be creating more fun things!
YAY!

ok, so i managed to finish the last batch of PM's. These guys are the last models I made in my eagerness to make a DG army all those months ago and painting them all has been non stop hard work! Although it was very hard getting these last 7 boys done it was even harder not to rush through them.
OK here they are:




So thats 48 PM's a couple of tanks a dread and some Termies all of them different. Phew!

No more old models waiting for me to paint them....only NEW models waiting for me to build them!

YES

I am so happy right now

As for my sorcerer here he is so far:


This guy is one of the few remaining older PM's I didnt have:

This guy is a Tunnel Dweller:

not sure what I will do with him, I may kit bash him with some other models to make a DP....dunno yet


Right, a sorcerer to paint and some kits to bash

yeah,
awesome stuff/progress dude, we should make plans and get a game sometime soon!
my next block of free days is May 12th - 15th if that's any good for you?

Panic...

Damn thats a shame Panic, due to staff holidays I wont have any free time in may at all :(....although your right we should play a game.....let me know about june dates and i can check up in my work diary...damn shift system

As an aside, i had my first ever game with my boys yesterday, my first game with the new rules too....got myself a draw against some shooty tau! which means thats the first game I havent lost in 15/16 years LOL (not that I have played much since those days hehehehe)

Ok so it has been TOO long since my last update but work has been madness this last few weeks and i have had no time to do any real work. However I do have a tiny update to show you, it is still very WIP though.
My next rhino:





As you can see I am using plasticard (which is really hard to work with!) as extra armour and the predator top section as a mount for a havoc launcher....which looks really cool i think.

started paint:



I have used sand to give my rusted areas some texture. I dont know if you can see but i have used the sand as Runes. i wanted to have rust patches in the shape of some nurgle runes from the old ROC book. so i have the appropriate rune of nurgle and others to represent the extra armour i have on this tank. I think i may make this a theme, runes rock and its a great way (i think) to represent things like Extra Armour without having to model the armour on!!


and finally a couple of very WIP winged DPs for you

The shop bought DP will have the blood thirster wings and a different face.


this fellow is based on the 'tunnel dweller' model with a spawn torso and head. I went for this torso 'cos i really like the way it makes this guy look like a Cobra snake which works real well. I am giving him claws as i think he is too beast like to give him a sword or something similar.....agree?
Also any suggestions on how to base this guy would REALLY be welcome!
final thing to tell you is i have used the back pack with wings from the possessed box as i wanted to have something on him that suggested he was once a Marine.....long...long ago. The wings look a bit small for the model i know....i have a plan...it involves bats.....

And finally to prove i am the most anal person here...:





I sorted out all my plastic 'bitz' into a box, all sorted and easy to find

the debate about what to use to strip METAL models is over:


this stuff is simply AWESOME, removes ALL the paint pretty damn fast. however, use gloves and a metal bucket or can as it dissolves plastic. i mean completely. so dont leave plastic back packs or arms attatched to your metal models as these will selt all over your model.

thanks

phill

I'm loving this army. Loving it!
From a healthy distance, though. Because it looks positively contagious.

Seriously, the old school models work very well with the white/green/slime color scheme, works very well with the conversions, works very well with the basing scheme (which is particularly icky). All well done.

phillpowell wrote:hehehe me? overcompensating!!

he is called ted cos a friend of mine called it "The Erection of Death" lol

thanks for the comments

Meh, I was happy he was called Ted because that is my name.

This post ruined it all

really good
the DP's look awesome

i like them all but i cant imagine the spawn dp can fly with those wings

aha typhus my good man...niether can i....but there is a plan, it involves chains and some undead bats...shhhhh