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Shadowbrand wrote:No, you sterlize us!

You can take my dark lances, hell even my Jetbikes, but you don't get Steve the one-eyed muscle wonder.

and where is there any proof that we sterilize you? once again This is propaganda! look at how many years the kroot and vespid have been among the Empire and they are not treated as slaves, nor are their number diminishing If anything they are growing as well

p.s. even if you were to be sterile, your muscle would keep working

@top.

In all honesty why do you want a Dark eldar in the empire? Were lousy all we do is get high all day and mess stuff up.

Also my proof is Dawn of War.

Shadowbrand wrote:@top.

In all honesty why do you want a Dark eldar in the empire? Were lousy all we do is get high all day and mess stuff up.

Also my proof is Dawn of War.

i didnt play the first DoW sadly :(

because...the empire could forward deploy you guys into other races territory to corrupt them and bring them into the empire..and since you like doing dirty things that the empire would frown apon..your technically not in Tau Empire space...soo you could do what ever you wanted out there w/o making anyone un happy?

"I hate Tau, dey ruin da fun we ave with da krootz by running to dem when dey gave da sissy cry fer help!"
Warlord Grog of da dakka warz

As you can see I collect grogz dakka WAAAGH!, SOO I own YA!

you hate tau then. It doesn't matter. Everyone, both chaos, human and Xenos are destined to all die. I think somewhere in the eldar codex it talks about the time when everything is destroyed in one final battle. Also, I read this in lexicanum, if the emperor didn't kill horus then the chaos gods would become so obsessed with the human race that they invest all of their power into it. Eventually the Humans collapse and die and the chaos gods and daemons die with them. But since Horus was killed now all chaos survive and will eventually take over the entire universe. Now that I think back on thet Im sure it was the Cabal who said that. So why fight for the emperor when Chaos are going to win?

TopC wrote:

Shadowbrand wrote:@top.

In all honesty why do you want a Dark eldar in the empire? Were lousy all we do is get high all day and mess stuff up.

Also my proof is Dawn of War.

i didnt play the first DoW sadly :(

because...the empire could forward deploy you guys into other races territory to corrupt them and bring them into the empire..and since you like doing dirty things that the empire would frown apon..your technically not in Tau Empire space...soo you could do what ever you wanted out there w/o making anyone un happy?

This "letter of marque" thing wouldn't work, we all know of the treacherous nature of the blue greys.

And your eldar masters may act against it too.

But its not a problem, since the C'tan will sooner or later take over your AI's and the Tau will cry for help.
Too bad, the mighty Imperium ignores the pledges of thieves and especially the xenos sort .......


@idget:

The emperor keeps us safe ( and all the xenos too as a side effect ) and since he'll be immortal those
warp creatures will suffer ( read my sig ).

idget wrote:you hate tau then. It doesn't matter. Everyone, both chaos, human and Xenos are destined to all die. I think somewhere in the eldar codex it talks about the time when everything is destroyed in one final battle. Also, I read this in lexicanum, if the emperor didn't kill horus then the chaos gods would become so obsessed with the human race that they invest all of their power into it. Eventually the Humans collapse and die and the chaos gods and daemons die with them. But since Horus was killed now all chaos survive and will eventually take over the entire universe. Now that I think back on thet Im sure it was the Cabal who said that. So why fight for the emperor when Chaos are going to win?

You mis-read me, Grog (see codex:Orks) hates Tau and I colect grogz dakka WAAAGH!.
I like Tau they are cool, and fun to kill. Tank-bustas blow up the pesky hammerheads (I think?, are they the ones who have rail-guns?),
and the boyz deal with the fire dudes.

Fun to Kill. FUN TO KILL?!?! You sir are very much misguided. In fact it is you who is fun to kill!
@1hadhq
He will die eventually though. He is rotting away on the golden throne, once able to talk but know not as his soul is going into the warp. And when he dies Chaos takes over.

Not for long! *Heavenly choirs sing Hallehuiah*

Star Child pwns and rapes Chaos Gods. Happy ending.

(Khorne gets pregnant. )

Emperors Faithful wrote:Not for long! *Heavenly choirs sing Hallehuiah*

Star Child pwns and rapes Chaos Gods. Happy ending.

(Khorne gets pregnant. )

Turned radical?

Starchild =

IIRC, mankind will evolve and change. The emprah is just higher up the ladder of evo so he goes first.

The immortal ruler of both realms he will be.
Imperator Gloriam

One is Radical through thier methods (kill/perform experiments on Emperor) not by thier beliefs. I believe that, whatever may come, the Star Child shall come about Naturally.

Now, wanting us all to evolve and change? Into pyskers?!? THAT'S heresy.

Emperors Faithful wrote:One is Radical through thier methods (kill/perform experiments on Emperor) not by thier beliefs. I believe that, whatever may come, the Star Child shall come about Naturally.

Now, wanting us all to evolve and change? Into pyskers?!? THAT'S heresy.

Ignoring the Emperors holy plans ?
Thats ULTRA-.heresy



PS: the evolution is part of actual fluff, starchild is not.....

Assuming to know what the Emperors Holy Plans are?
That's EXTRA heretical.

Assuming? You're mistaken.

I have direct orders from the throne.
His plans are clear. I will NOT refute the will of the Emperor.

Never

Take your silly commissar hat and begone, filthy starchild cultist.

Attempting to make a forgery of the Emperors Will?

The Starchild is actual fluff (and I cannot wait to see Khorne's Mutant baby)

misuse his seal ?

I doubt you like the consequences...





Is the conclusion why one shall fight in his name:

- because EF will purge you if you do

Can't be true.

Is there hope for EF to escape the claws of the xenos and their lies of a starchild?

I would make a "Ever heard of SOB's?" Joke here, but....urm....well.....you see, I've started collecting a traitor guard force .

*Hears EF cocking bolt pistol behind me.*

Ronin-Sage wrote:I would fight for the Emperor because it's the right thing to do. It's pretty much that simple.

Granted, the beaucracy of the modern Imperium is more or less a bastardization of what the Emperor strove for, but if you break everything down, the Emperor is, imo, the only truly "good" deity in the 40k universe.

Personally, I like to believe that the Emperor in the 40k universe is himself not a singular deity, but the physical manifestation of a greater power(to make parallels to Christianity, Christ ~> Emperor; Holy Spirit ~> Emperor's Light+conscience in general; Creator ~> ??).

And of course, it really depends on the author of the fictional work on how good and god-like the Emperor is.

I really do not see how you would, after all things done, consider the Emperor to be a 'good' diety. Striving for survival is a natural instinct, not a defining characteristic of good. Good is HOW you strive to survive. By this token, the Empire/Emperor wouldn't fit into the 'good' side of the picture.

I'd have to say, if any god is 'good', it'd be the Eldar god of the dead. His name is Ynead(spelling?) or something like that

QFT Faenyin

I like to think that he has good intentions trying to protect humanity, but all in all he's just a genocidal extremist. He will never be able to reach humans' ultimate goal that is a utopian ideal. Why, because if he does the impossible and wipe out all of Chaos and xenos in the galaxy, the almighty Imperium that he built would be frigg'n' huge, therefore He cannot see everything meaning rebellion could happen easily. I'm not talking wars and gak, it could be as little as finding a god to worship besides the Emperor, and if He were to find out, war would break. if the Emperor were to preserve his utopian Imperium long enough, Chaos would just return. All it would take is the human nature we experience everyday like pain, pleasure, death etc. The Emperor's grand plan is a future of peace, in these times to maintain peace would be to be, well perfect, the human race is anything but perfect how do I know. Chaos is a frigg'n' byproduct of being human! To kill Chaos, yet alone live perfect lives is to be human no more. Is it worth it?

FFS for all we know The Emperor might just be using the Imperium so he can ascend to godhood, but we won't be letting that happen any time soon will we?

Ha, this is a trick question...
You can't fight for the Emperor, only for his teachings. Unfortunately, his teachings have been corrupted by the very empire he built. So, the only way to fight for the Emperor's teachings is to fight against the Empire.
Any true follower of the Emperor's teachings would assault Terra (or work towards that end) and free the Emperor from his captivity of suffering as a "living-dead" pseudo-god, who is kept "alive" only so that those that have corrupted his teachings, may stay in power.

Remember, the Emperor never wanted himself portrayed as a God. I compare him to a visionary conqueror, like Alexander the great. A man with dreams of a united universe/world (Alexander may have wanted it united under Greek Rule but meh, Greeks were pretty cool).

Two-Step wrote:Ha, this is a trick question...
You can't fight for the Emperor, only for his teachings. Unfortunately, his teachings have been corrupted by the very empire he built. So, the only way to fight for the Emperor's teachings is to fight against the Empire.
Any true follower of the Emperor's teachings would assault Terra (or work towards that end) and free the Emperor from his captivity of suffering as a "living-dead" pseudo-god, who is kept "alive" only so that those that have corrupted his teachings, may stay in power.

Emperors Faithful wrote:Remember, the Emperor never wanted himself portrayed as a God. I compare him to a visionary conqueror, like Alexander the great. A man with dreams of a united universe/world (Alexander may have wanted it united under Greek Rule but meh, Greeks were pretty cool).

Ok. His vision seems not beeing received correctly.


No united universe. Just mankind's destiny to rule the stars undisputed.

Can't free the emperor. Cause he's no captive. It was his order to be placed there.



Nice take EF. Alexander died young too and his successors ruined his empire also....

And to the trick of this thread: OP thought there could be no reason to fight in his holy name, but there is
ONLY reasons to fight for him instead of futile resistance in the name of some warp spawn.










Lets see if both claim to represent the inquisition and try to hide the imperial truth i've revealed here...

Two-Step wrote:Ha, this is a trick question...
Any true follower of the Emperor's teachings would assault Terra (or work towards that end) and free the Emperor from his captivity of suffering as a "living-dead" pseudo-god, who is kept "alive" only so that those that have corrupted his teachings, may stay in power.

There is one traitor chapter that fights against chaos and the imperium as they claim that the emperors teachings are actually corrupted and some of them are considering attacking terra. (soul drinkers I think). The Emperor is just sitting on the Golden Throne as more of a cpative than a ruler in my opinion

In a Campain that I once did a while back I was playing as a "renegade" guard army that beleived that the Inquisitors KNEW the secret to bring the Emperor back to his full potential but refuse to because they want to stay in power. Deemed Heritics the Inquisition put a price on my armies head, and I ,some how, took out the Ultramarine Chapter, Over half of the Armaggeddon Legion, Yarrick included, Absorbed the Tanith, and convenced the Sisters of Battle that we follow the Emperor's will, before the Ordos and the Blood Angles combined forces and wiped me out.

Because who are you gonna fight for in a galaxy filled with war. I mean the Tyranids are eventually gonna gobble up the galaxy and they don't have recruiting centers!

they fight for the emporer because they dont want tentacles coming out of their eyes :/

IMO, if fighting is a problem, the only place you can stay away from war is the Imperium. I just read Xenos by Dan Abnett, and in it Eisenhorn muses to himself that Xenos and Chaos are largely seen as myths by most Imperial citizens because most worlds don't experience war.

If I HAD to fight, I'd fight for the Emperor because that'd be the religious figure that protects my family, friends, state, country, planet, system, sub-sector...etc. and, when you get right down to it, he protects the whole of humanity. People fight for their country right? It's no surprise then that there are many people willing to fight for their RACE!

Ave Imperator! (Hope I said that right!)

The weak Emperor is dieing... slowly and his soul will be eaten by she who thrists like all others!!!


But I will live on for all eternity as I feed her more and more souls Eldar, Human, Tau , Ork.... shes not too picky!

Shadowbrand wrote:The weak Emperor is dieing... slowly and his soul will be eaten by she who thrists like all others!!!

Um, he is not. And anyway, he bitchslapped Horus and killed him while suffering from a mortal wound. I read that, had the 4 Gods stayed in Horus, the Emperor's psychic might would've obliterated them. Gotta love the Emperor, keep that Pimp-Hand strong bro!


In any case, the Emperor is, at the very least, in stable enough of a condition to keep the Demons at bay and the 4 chaos gods away.