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Guitardian wrote:Sarah Palin sold what? A couple million books? While a couple million is a large-ish number it hardly accounts for the rest of the country's point of view about her. Monica Lewinsky sold a bunch of books too and I don't see anyone giving a crap about her any more since Clinton left office. Sarah Palin has less people caring what she thinks than Harry Potter fans, yet she has the right people in the right places caring, which puts her on the news, which in turn makes people think she's a big deal. The only people I've seen who take her seriously, or the 'teabagger' agenda seriously, are bonafide ignorant hicks. Lets pray they don't get in charge... Oh wait.. that's their department, the whole praying thing. We need it back in public schools or god won't make the nixxers balance the budget for all the moose hunters and their slowed children's nobel prize special olympics under the guise of healthcare, or their accidental daughter-mom underage kid who gets healthcare for her baby because her mom is a rich book 'writer' with people to ghost write for her because she's too busy defending our borders against russia by hunting bears from a helicopter.
God will sort all of that out just so long as the teabaggers get their act together and all pray at the same time... like... at election time.

Nope...no issues there...jeez

okay yer right... I'm just still mad that she dumped me...

Guitardian is my new favorite funny poster.

she's too busy defending our borders against russia by hunting bears from a helicopter.

This made me laugh, because it made me think of this:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/06/21/

WARNING: Rude Word can be read after following the link.

Mannahnin wrote:Guitardian is my new favorite funny poster.

Tis good to know. I was thinking I'd be banned or something...

here's another good one for ya: If we turn off the active desktop, the terrorists have already won... maybe not so relevant, but it made me laugh when I saw it scrawled on a comp box with a sharpie marker... (right next to the 'please do not sacrifice to Cthulu' message)... yes that computer existed and that, in itself, is just awesome...

@Dogma: Bwahaha, RA3 was awesome if only for that reason. I love how the video used TF2 music, and not the RA3 score of awesomeness.

Guitardian wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:Guitardian is my new favorite funny poster.

Tis good to know. I was thinking I'd be banned or something...

here's another good one for ya: If we turn off the active desktop, the terrorists have already won... maybe not so relevant, but it made me laugh when I saw it scrawled on a comp box with a sharpie marker... (right next to the 'please do not sacrifice to Cthulu' message)... yes that computer existed and that, in itself, is just awesome...

Oh, it's no protection from banning. If we find you amusing we're more likely to look for your posts. And if you flame someone or use inappropriate language, we still have to treat you just the same.

Warning accepted, and I don't know anyone well enough to bother flaming stuff so don't worry. About innapropriate language however, I don't quite understand 'innapropriate' in the same way as the rest of the hoomaan species, so please forgive my accidental screwups... meanwhile... did you guys hear about that piper cherokee versus office space incident? I was half asleep when it showed up on the news... I'm just waiting to see who is first to jump on the blamegame wagon... Last week it was kidnapped haitian orphans, this week it's a plane crashing into a bunch of telemarketers... next week it will be a plane piloted by orphans into a nascar rally because of teabagging activists. where do we go from here?

Frazzled wrote:

Ahtman wrote:

Orkeosaurus wrote:Sebster is a Communist.

I knew it.

I think we all knew. Can't hold it off anymore I guess. I'll get the pitchforks, you get the torches.

I have that on a t-shirt.

The Onion wrote:Tea Party Movement Hopelessly Divided Into Enraged, Apoplectic Factions

WASHINGTON—Organizers of the Tea Party movement, a group opposed to the federal government’s attempts to alleviate the ongoing financial crisis through increased spending and taxation, announced today that their members have split down reactionary lines into those who are apoplectic in regard to the Obama administration and those who are merely enraged. “This rift is absolutely irresolvable,” screamed red-faced events coordinator Daniel Hume, head of the movement’s apoplectic faction. “We believe that now is simply not the time to be irrationally furious about unprecedented economic policies that have had little more than a year to start showing any signs of effectiveness. Now is the time to be foaming-at-the-mouth, incoherently livid about them.” A third camp of angry protesters had reportedly emerged from the recent upheaval, but its entire membership tragically died from massive brain aneurysms shortly after the group formed.

@Ahtman: Nice. If only the Onion reported reality...

Satire, JEB. It's about as true as this one:

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/democrats_vow_not_to_give_up

WASHINGTON, DC—In a press conference on the steps of the Capitol Monday, Congressional Democrats announced that, despite the scandals plaguing the Republican Party and widespread calls for change in Washington, their party will remain true to its hopeless direction.

"We are entirely capable of bungling this opportunity to regain control of the House and Senate and the trust of the American people," Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said to scattered applause. "It will take some doing, but we're in this for the long and pointless haul."
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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi reaffirms the Democratic Party’s promise to remain marginalized.

"We can lose this," Reid added. "All it takes is a little lack of backbone."

Despite plummeting poll numbers for the G.O.P nationwide and an upcoming election in which all House seats and 33 Senate seats are up for contention, Democrats pledged to maintain their party's sheepish resignation.

"In times like these, when the American public is palpably dismayed with the political status quo, it is crucial that Democrats remain unfocused and defer to the larger, smarter, and better-equipped Republican machine," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said. "If we play our cards right, we will be intimidated to the point of total paralysis."

Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) cited the Bush Administration's bungled response to Hurricane Katrina as a model for Democrats.

"Grandmothers drowning in nursing homes, families losing everything, communities torn apart—and the ruling party just sat and watched," Lieberman said. "I'm here to promise that we Democrats will find a way to let you down just like that."

According to Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA), Democrats are not willing to sacrifice their core values—indecision, incoherence, and disorganization—for the sake of short-term electoral gain.

"Don't lose faithlessness, Democrats," Kennedy said. "The next election is ours to lose. To those who say we can't, I say: Remember Michael Dukakis. Remember Al Gore. Remember John Kerry."

Kennedy said that, even if the Democrats were to regain the upper hand in the midterm elections, they would still need to agree on a platform and chart a legislative agenda—an obstacle he called "insurmountable."

"Universal health care, the war in Iraq, civil liberties, a living wage, gun control—we're not even close to a consensus within our own ranks," Kennedy said. "And even if we were, we wouldn't know how to implement that consensus."
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Democratic Party faithful cheer on their leaders’ resolutely defeatist agenda.

"Some rising stars with leadership potential like [Sen. Barack] Obama (D-IL) and [New York State Attorney General Eliot] Spitzer have emerged, but don't worry: We've still got some infight left in us," Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said. "Over the last decade, we've found a reliably losing formula, and we're sticking with it."

Dean reminded Democratic candidates to "stay on our unclear message, maintain a defensive, reactive posture, and keep an elitist distance from voters."

Political consultant and Democratic operative James Carville said that, if properly disseminated, the message of hopelessness could be the Democrats' most effective in more than a decade.

"For the first time in a long time, we're really connecting with the American people, who are also feeling hopeless," Carville said. "If we can harness that and run on it in '06, I believe we can finish a strong second."

sebster wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Ahtman wrote:

Orkeosaurus wrote:Sebster is a Communist.

I knew it.

I think we all knew. Can't hold it off anymore I guess. I'll get the pitchforks, you get the torches.

I have that on a t-shirt.

I so want that on a Tshirt. Good call Sebie. Good call.

I'd put money on the Texas nut-case who crashed his small plane into an IRS building having been a Tea-bagger...

If so, the "movement" just went from being pathetic and amusing to being downright dangerous.

Commissar Molotov wrote:I'd put money on the Texas nut-case who crashed his small plane into an IRS building having been a Tea-bagger...

If so, the "movement" just went from being pathetic and amusing to being downright dangerous.

you're so blindingly full of it you could run a train.

Hey Fraz, nice job going after the poster instead of arguing against their argument!

That said, most of the rhetoric in the note is more akin to Libertarian stuff (especially the overall hate for taxes and the government), which is not the same as the Tea Party. The Tea Party movement seems to be a bit of a catch-all right now, including Libertarians but also including a lot of other anti-government and reactionary conservative elements. There are some parts of the note (like support for government healthcare, and anti-religious ranting) which really don’t resemble anything coming out of the Tea Party.

Mannahnin wrote:Hey Fraz, nice job going after the poster instead of arguing against their argument!

That said, most of the rhetoric in the note is more akin to Libertarian stuff (especially the overall hate for taxes and the government), which is not the same as the Tea Party. The Tea Party movement seems to be a bit of a catch-all right now, including Libertarians but also including a lot of other anti-government and reactionary conservative elements. There are some parts of the note (like support for government healthcare, and anti-religious ranting) which really don’t resemble anything coming out of the Tea Party.

I had to go get some coffee to mellow out.

Read the frigging note Molotov. Its a ranting raving mess all other the place with as amany lefty references as rightwinger. he was a raving nutjob who tried to burn his family alive, and you trying to tie him to a party. Read first and quit trying to score cheap political points on the bodies of dead and missing. Have you no shame!
I'd better stop before I tell you what I really think.

Much better, sir! Thanks. Enjoy the coffee. I'm thinking about getting a second cup...

I'd better stop before I tell you what I really think.

And yet you don't bat an eyelash when people say liberals are trying to capitulate and aid terrorists. Double standard much? Or do you have fateweaver on ignore.

Wait, liberals aren't trying to capitulate, enshrine sharia law, and aid terrorists? Why wasn't I informed? What have I been lied to about?

Mannahnin wrote:Hey Fraz, nice job going after the poster instead of arguing against their argument!

That said, most of the rhetoric in the note is more akin to Libertarian stuff (especially the overall hate for taxes and the government), which is not the same as the Tea Party. The Tea Party movement seems to be a bit of a catch-all right now, including Libertarians but also including a lot of other anti-government and reactionary conservative elements. There are some parts of the note (like support for government healthcare, and anti-religious ranting) which really don’t resemble anything coming out of the Tea Party.

While some forms of libertarianism are pretty hostile towards religion (Rand), the support for government healthcare, and tacit support for Marx's communist doctrine, seem to skew him away from it. He also blame collusion between companies not having been stopped by the local justice department, and specifically criticises capitalism, rather than some sort of "mockery of capitalism".
He has a very strong populist feeling to him, and this makes him seem more "tea party" than traditional Libertarian to me, although I don't think he can be said to be of either group, really.

The guy really must have snapped at the end. Even if you accept the need to kill a bunch of people to get everyone to listen to you, his plan for doing so was stupid. He was an engineer, he should have had a better idea of how much damage his small plane would do (not a whole lot, if you compare it to the Fort Hood shooter, or another major attack). Starting your own house on fire (with your family inside) doesn't make any sense either, it just makes you look even crazier than you otherwise would.

I think libertarians on the surface just don't like rules. If they come from religion (Rand's gripe) or governance (Limbaugh's gripe) or nextdoor neighbors (my gripe), its still just rules: therefore it's stepping on your freedoms.

Isn't it more important to challenge bad rules instead of just challenging the authority that makes them, just because it's rules? Some rules are bad, but not all rules are bad, and I think the common "I HATE AUTHORITY!" anarchist needs to remember that everything in life needs a level of order to it, otherwise nothing makes sense. But the libertarian version is more like "I HATE AUTHORITY... when it doesn't do my self interest". I know many anarchists, protesters, step-up types who would pee on a cop car if given half a chance, but none of them are as selfish as a person who would protest health care because THEY don't need it. All those Teabaggers would think a lot differently if they had to go to dialysis (which happens to old fat people sooner or later so count yer days gramps) and then have the bills in the mail and wonder why every other nation capable has public healthcare just not us. (we get tanks instead)

Geee... shucks.. awww thats lame... I had to go into the hospital at 64 instead of 65 years old... if only i had waited a week for my birthday my kid would still have a house...

Republican moneygrubbers need to spend a summer living under a bridge or a bush or something and THEN they can talk about fiscal responsibility. Until then all they get from me is spit in the face and attitude, but that's okay... because 'certain' taxes... like having me arrested for spitting on em... those are okay... other taxes, like for instance helping my GFs dying dad in the hospital aren't okay? I want to take a baseball batt and go beat the mess out of a horde of old grouchy golfers at a teabagging party until the cops show up and remind them that taxes are there for a reason.

Guitardian wrote: I want to take a baseball batt and go beat the mess out of a horde of old grouchy golfers at a teabagging party until the cops show up and remind them that taxes are there for a reason.

I wouldn't try that. Tea party/libertarians tend to be more heavily armed. You'd end up very dead. Or you can try that and find out for yourself.

While true, that is yet still very true. That's what's so scary about these people getting together. Do you think a man could get away with going to a Bush rally with a loaded gun and a sign that says "my right" or whatever it said along those lines? I wouldn't actually beat up old golfers to prove that health care matters... just their kids. It's sad that the most newsworthy new 'party' is getting talked about all over the place when they don't really have any new ideas, just gun waving and flag belching one liners from Americas greatest irrelevant mom, and a bunch of superstitious hicks that think muslims will end the world if we don't make prayer in school a policy and so on. I never really thought tea was the issue in the first place, it had more to do with self governance. Or maybe revisionist history and dumbed down No-Child-Left-(behind?) education has made that less relevant nowadays.

You sound like one of the vegetarians who say they're going to go out and shoot hunters so they know what it feels like.

Those vegetarians are lightweights.

They should be eating the hunters to really let them know what it is like.

Nononono got it all wrong man; out here in the sticks, we actually fire raccoons and the occasional deer at pickup trucks on the WAY to their hunting turf. Everyone thinks its roadkill but the vegetarians know better.

Don't go out and fight a tea party protest. Just find someone who identifies themselves as a teapartier and beat them up. Neither action has any effect to stem the movement, but it would probably feel really good.

Isnt the 'stem' of the movement actually, eventually the problem? That's what is worrisome.. that it even exists because half our country is brain-dead god-bothering-hicks with front seats on busses, window shades on their golf carts, and careless attitudes towards the 'have-nots' out of sheer greed and ignorance that was personified by their 'greatest generation'. GUESS WHAT GRAMPS I DONT GIVE A FLYING (ahem) IF YOU WERE COOK ON A SHIP WHILE DDAY WAS GOING ON, CUZ I WAS A MACE SPRAYED COP BEATEN HOMELESS FORK DURING THAT PROTEST THAT YOU GUYS JUST WATCHED ON THE NEWS. Old people need to grow up. Tiger Woods already proved that golf isn't necessarilly good xtian beaver cleaver ethical either, what more do they need?