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You appear to have some sort of all-consuming neurosis pertaining to golf.

Are you OJ Simpson?

Isnt the 'stem' of the movement actually, eventually the problem? That's what is worrisome.. that it even exists because half our country is brain-dead god-bothering-hicks with front seats on busses, window shades on their golf carts, and careless attitudes towards the 'have-nots' out of sheer greed and ignorance that was personified by their 'greatest generation'.

We've always had that, Americans were never at their smartest when you're just talking to some joe on the street. The big issue with the tea parties is the coverage they can now receive due to an incredibly business oriented and polarized media industry both enabling their message to get out (Because it's good television to both praise and mock the tea parties) and reinforce it's own view as a legitimate movement. The internet has also greatly enabled the tea parties to flourish by providing them safe channels to communicate en masse, relatively free from scrutiny or harassment.

GUESS WHAT GRAMPS I DONT GIVE A FLYING (ahem) IF YOU WERE COOK ON A SHIP WHILE DDAY WAS GOING ON, CUZ I WAS A MACE SPRAYED COP BEATEN HOMELESS FORK DURING THAT PROTEST THAT YOU GUYS JUST WATCHED ON THE NEWS

Caps lock.

Old people need to grow up.

The tea parties aren't composed entirely of the elderly.

Tiger Woods already proved that golf isn't necessarilly good xtian beaver cleaver ethical either, what more do they need?

Your posts go in such weird places.

I swear half the tea party signs are done strictly for the lulz.

I want that on a t-shirt!

That guy rocks so hard in ways that he does not and will not ever know. Or maybe they do just make it up as an excuse to go out and eat hot dogs or something. Scary thought. I wan't to make one up: American Taxpayers are the reason Oprah has no space marines under my chair! yeah that one was pretty lame, but almost as relevant I guess.

p.s. sorry about the capslock incident.

Just kinda curious; when has Obama tried to silence anyone?

We don't know. He's too good at it.

He told me to shut up once, but only because I was about to puke on him at a kegger.

Actually the real story is a tad different. Back when he was senator Obama instead of president elect Obama I was on a political volunteer thing for the newspapers that was keeping busy dealing with Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama standoff (or beatdown, depending on how you revise history) usually debunking myths - and there were lots... and we were told that our language was too strong for him to him to approve of our letters. That was none too surprising to him, or myself, and really not a big deal. I tried to get a Jonathan Swift essay removed from the curriculum too but it fell on deaf ears because the essay in question was all about eating deaf people, (or the otherwise disenfranchised unfortunates of the species). Point being, we were SILENCED! (and still kept campaigning for him)

Guitardian wrote: I know many anarchists, protesters, step-up types who would pee on a cop car if given half a chance, but none of them are as selfish as a person who would protest health care because THEY don't need it. All those Teabaggers would think a lot differently if they had to go to dialysis (which happens to old fat people sooner or later so count yer days gramps) and then have the bills in the mail and wonder why every other nation capable has public healthcare just not us. (we get tanks instead)

If only it was as simple as the anti-healthcare teapartiers being hypocrites. Many are drawn from the ranks of the poor and unemployed, and do not have insurance.

The teapartiers ran fairly heavily with the story of Kenneth Gladney, who claimed to be hurt during a protest (video footage shows him more or less unharmed, but that’s besides the point here). Despite not actually going to hospital, the next day he turned up in a wheelchair and complained about the treatment he copped, and in between attacks on healthcare advocates he asked for donations from fellow teapartiers for his hospital bills – as he was unemployed and didn’t have insurance. He was at a rally opposed to giving him healthcare.

The power of the American myth that you’ll make be rich soon is very powerful, and frequently results in the poor voting against their own interests.

I think the ""Beer" party would be a better name.

nah. If it was a beer party it would be far more fun, but potentially the same about anger.

If they were Scottish then yes...

I like that they've stopped being Teabaggers and are now the Tea Party. Someone must have looked up Teabag on wiki...

Well, they're named after the Boston Tea Party. My guess is they started out calling themselves the tea party, got called teabaggers by people making fun of them, didn't know they were being made fun of and so used the name themselves, then slowly figured it out.

Guitardian wrote:Isnt the 'stem' of the movement actually, eventually the problem? That's what is worrisome.. that it even exists because half our country is brain-dead god-bothering-hicks with front seats on busses, window shades on their golf carts, and careless attitudes towards the 'have-nots' out of sheer greed and ignorance that was personified by their 'greatest generation'. GUESS WHAT GRAMPS I DONT GIVE A FLYING (ahem) IF YOU WERE COOK ON A SHIP WHILE DDAY WAS GOING ON, CUZ I WAS A MACE SPRAYED COP BEATEN HOMELESS FORK DURING THAT PROTEST THAT YOU GUYS JUST WATCHED ON THE NEWS. Old people need to grow up. Tiger Woods already proved that golf isn't necessarilly good xtian beaver cleaver ethical either, what more do they need?

Wow, what are you, thirteen?

what are you, umpteen? Stupid question. Yeah age has a lot of bearing on how percieve age I suppose. The fact that there are a lot more old grouchy jerks than young grouchy jerks makes me a bit prejudicial in assumptions. Younger generations did not grow up assuming that life was leav-it-to-beaver and expecting the government to be 'good' and 'right' and 'american values' and all that crap. Superman died and wolverine and marilyn manson took over. It's just how time works. When I see old people protesting I think "oh great, someone is threatening their health care strangle hold monopoly again. Great that the AARP can dictate mass movements of otherwise uncaring people." when young people protest they throw rocks at cops, turn over cars, and let the cops know that police brutality is not okay, or that WTO can go fork itself for all we care (yeah I was at that one too). I guess what I'm saying is that its a different standard of interests represented by the generational gap. Sorry I cannot be more eloquent right now, I'm 13.

Guitardian wrote:what are you, umpteen? Stupid question. Yeah age has a lot of bearing on how percieve age I suppose. The fact that there are a lot more old grouchy jerks than young grouchy jerks makes me a bit prejudicial in assumptions. Younger generations did not grow up assuming that life was leav-it-to-beaver and expecting the government to be 'good' and 'right' and 'american values' and all that crap. Superman died and wolverine and marilyn manson took over. It's just how time works. When I see old people protesting I think "oh great, someone is threatening their health care strangle hold monopoly again. Great that the AARP can dictate mass movements of otherwise uncaring people." when young people protest they throw rocks at cops, turn over cars, and let the cops know that police brutality is not okay, or that WTO can go fork itself for all we care (yeah I was at that one too). I guess what I'm saying is that its a different standard of interests represented by the generational gap. Sorry I cannot be more eloquent right now, I'm 13.

In all fairness, even if you aren't 13, you come across as someone who has no idea what they are talking about so they create extremes (there is really only young and old?) and use stereotypes (old people be like this, while young people be all like this) as well as using examples that are not that relevant (Leave it To Beaver? Really?). These are common among younger less savvy humans who are trying to figure out how to use the information they are given. Though this is obliviously not exclusive to Jonas Brother fans, it is very common. Your complete disregard for punctuation and other simple grammatical conventions which adds to the consideration of impetuous youth because you don't realize how you present yourself will also dictate how you will be received. Mariyln Manson? This also shows a level of immaturity and youth. Either you are to young to realize how marginalized he really is, just how long he's been around, and don't recognize that musicians like him have been around a long time. He doesn't represent some strange cultural touchstone any more than Alice Cooper did. Is there irony in youth picking a middle aged man to represent their youth? Wolverine has been around for 36 years and Manson is over 40.

..wait..is Marilyn Manson in the JLA or the X men now then ? When did this happen ?

I haven't been so upset since Gandalf tried to kill Captain Picard and Bilbo turned out to be Jack the Ripper.

reds8n wrote: I haven't been so upset since Gandalf tried to kill Captain Picard and Bilbo turned out to be Jack the Ripper.

I think we were all surprised on that day. Shaka, when the walls fell.

Ahtman wrote:

reds8n wrote: I haven't been so upset since Gandalf tried to kill Captain Picard and Bilbo turned out to be Jack the Ripper.

I think we were all surprised on that day. Shaka, when the walls fell.

Ooh thats quality Ahtman. Ten Star Trekkie internet cookies for that one.

reds8n wrote:

Reds8n and Ahtman at the destruction of the Tea Party thread.

He's clearly venting stream of consciousness in part in an attempt at humor. Some of it's funny, too.

Seb- yeah, the "official" name was always the Tea Party movement, in reference to the famous historical event in my neck of the woods. Tea baggers was always a parodic/polemical nickname.

Mannahnin wrote:He's clearly venting stream of consciousness in part in an attempt at humor. Some of it's funny, too.

I don't know how clear it is. It seems to be maybe a hope on your part that that is what is happening.

Mannahnin wrote:Seb- yeah, the "official" name was always the Tea Party movement, in reference to the famous historical event in my neck of the woods. Tea baggers was always a parodic/polemical nickname.

I've always enjoyed that they took that hane but have a fundamental misunderstanding of the actual events at the Boston Tea Party. Shays' Rebellion would have probably been a better analogue. That would mean knowing more than the kindergarten version of events of course.

Ahtman wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:He's clearly venting stream of consciousness in part in an attempt at humor. Some of it's funny, too.

I don't know how clear it is. It seems to be maybe a hope on your part that that is what is happening.

Mannahnin wrote:Seb- yeah, the "official" name was always the Tea Party movement, in reference to the famous historical event in my neck of the woods. Tea baggers was always a parodic/polemical nickname.

I've always enjoyed that they took that hane but have a fundamental misunderstanding of the actual events at the Boston Tea Party. Shays' Rebellion would have probably been a better analogue. That would mean knowing more than the kindergarten version of events of course.

Yea but Shea's rebellion didn't have as happy an ending, although defintiely more the Frazzled's style.

"Get a rope."
-Washington, on hearing the farmers were proffering yankee store bought picante sauce.

I wish they'd modeled themselves on the Whiskey Rebellion, as liquor plus the current tea party signs would be a 1 way street to hilarity!

@Ahtman. Sorry if it seems convoluted and juvenile, but that's what the problem with generation gaps is, isn't it? extremes exist because they are real, and what it 'looks like' to some condescending elder is just not an issue to me, nor should it be.

Are we more 'mature' because we don't look at things like middle ground? Extremes and dichotomies are there because people needed to create them. Why does that make me this insular demon you seem to think I am?

Punctuation is a litttle difficult on this box, so forgive my misgivings and find a better attack bud.

Guitardian, you will tend to find that proper punctuation and clear writing in your posts will almost universally get a better reception. If you are trying to be serious, it's usually worth the effort.

Guitardian wrote:@Ahtman. Sorry if it seems convoluted and juvenile, but that's what the problem with generation gaps is, isn't it? extremes exist because they are real, and what it 'looks like' to some condescending elder is just not an issue to me, nor should it be.

Are we more 'mature' because we don't look at things like middle ground? Extremes and dichotomies are there because people needed to create them. Why does that make me this insular demon you seem to think I am?

Punctuation is a litttle difficult on this box, so forgive my misgivings and find a better attack bud.

Actually you just sound ranty ravy like the radicals you're trying to make fun of.

Sorry if it seems convoluted and juvenile, but that's what the problem with generation gaps is, isn't it? extremes exist because they are real, and what it 'looks like' to some condescending elder is just not an issue to me, nor should it be.

I'm not much older than you presumably, and from where I sit you're a little soap box crazy.

Why does that make me this insular demon you seem to think I am?

It doesn't help that you are framing others arguments to fit your own by proclaiming a form of persecution.

Punctuation is a litttle difficult on this box, so forgive my misgivings and find a better attack bud.

Box? What are you on an xbox? Don't most keyboards come with punctuation keys?