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Sweden

And finally read through the thread so I can let myself make a post! Weee!

This greenstuff working is crazy. As previously noted, you're inspiring us who usually only make small fixes to really go crazy with the stuff. And if not that, the captured evolution is sweet enough to make Darwin himself goo his pants. The whole work process has gotten me interested in the Cult in a major way, concidering that I've sort of... cast it out of hand untill now. The blog has crept that Lovecraftian dread for the Cult in me. A decadent cult, performing carnal blasphemies with Aliens from beyond the reach of our stars, dancing along to the mad piping from the Shadow from beyond the Void to come and deliver them. *ahem* Sorry. Get caught up.

A bit late to make an impact, but if I were you (or had joined Dakka long ago enough to manage feedback during the production stages of the hybrids) I would have made casts of the parts of each evolution. Basically so you could more swiftly make more of them. I guess you can do that now, but you'll end up with whole resin casts. Which I guess is still easier to switch up and alter clothing/weapon/stance of. Anyway, I think that's something you really aughta concider so you can get more out of all this awesome work than "only" four (although be it fantasticular) minis.

As for the weight of "Dante"'s sword, I don't think it's much of a problem in this here WH-universe. Nearly every mini ever produced from GW has had disproportionate weapons. Feck, the lighter ones are freaking single-handed chainsaw swords. Those have GOT to weigh more than can be plausibly used efficiently in one hand if they were made in RL. So, I think the whole GW-based wargaming culture is WAY past concerning themselves (ourselves) with weapons weight. To some extent.

So very much looking forward to seeing those hybrids painted. My tip is to start with the termies however. Save the plump and tasty bits 'till last, or your termie work may well get alot less enthusiasm. If not from yourself, than maybe from Dakka. I mean, there's a reason the climax comes last, right? And the hybrids sure as hell are the climax of this blog. Maybe Dante too, but certainly not 15 terminators. Even if I'm sure you'll make a pretty awesome job on them too.

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Liberated Grot Land Raida






Belgium

I was going to make the same offer as dark, but I guess he got it all covered! And for the record: on the last pic, his elbow should be facing out, not down if you want it to be realistic. Sword nuts ftw!

A Squeaky Waaagh!!

Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'

Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' 
   
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Inactive

Wow Tom , you have good eye for conversion and painting.
They look dynamic yet never over the top. Me like!

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Princedom of Buenos Aires

I used my Anduril réplica since it has a long handle and pommel.








   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Chaumont, France

Ok Dark, I guess you convinced us all that a mere human has problems wielding a blade horizontally...

As for Space Marines, IIRC, they have bio-engineered enhanced muscles, in addition to their POWER armour, which, as its name can tell us, adds to the strength of its bearer.

So I don't think the weight of the sword will affect Dante's grip on it!!

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Made in ar
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Princedom of Buenos Aires

Yeah, having all that would be good, but if you put your thimb laterally, as depicted on the concept art here, there's no grip at all, but I'm sure that you knew that allready

   
Made in fr
Longtime Dakkanaut





Chaumont, France

Yeah of course, I'm sure he did get that thing uh...

I hadn't seen your comment that way, sorry dude!

Cheers,

My WiP -affiliated Traitors - War on Tranch : Renegades
The World Tree's offsprings - Various WIPs : Skavens, Tzeentch & Nurgle CSMs, Marine Swap
My first tutorial - Object Source Lighting
What will I achieve in 7 months? : Radio Omid is online

"Squat Hulk- in space no one knows you no longer exist." - Gitzbitah
"Now you're just being silly, everyone knows red paint tastes fasta." - monkeytroll
"Both servers are on different continents so space meteors or thermonuclear war will not be enough take out dakka hopefully." - legoburner
Please remember to tick the "Disable Voting" box, if the pics you are uploading do not deserve votes (ie. early WIP, blurry pics, batreps, ...) Thanks in advance. 
   
Made in ca
Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings






Sunny SoCal

Wolfed wrote:And finally read through the thread so I can let myself make a post! Weee!

This greenstuff working is crazy. As previously noted, you're inspiring us who usually only make small fixes to really go crazy with the stuff. And if not that, the captured evolution is sweet enough to make Darwin himself goo his pants. The whole work process has gotten me interested in the Cult in a major way, concidering that I've sort of... cast it out of hand untill now. The blog has crept that Lovecraftian dread for the Cult in me. A decadent cult, performing carnal blasphemies with Aliens from beyond the reach of our stars, dancing along to the mad piping from the Shadow from beyond the Void to come and deliver them. *ahem* Sorry. Get caught up.

A bit late to make an impact, but if I were you (or had joined Dakka long ago enough to manage feedback during the production stages of the hybrids) I would have made casts of the parts of each evolution. Basically so you could more swiftly make more of them. I guess you can do that now, but you'll end up with whole resin casts. Which I guess is still easier to switch up and alter clothing/weapon/stance of. Anyway, I think that's something you really aughta concider so you can get more out of all this awesome work than "only" four (although be it fantasticular) minis.

As for the weight of "Dante"'s sword, I don't think it's much of a problem in this here WH-universe. Nearly every mini ever produced from GW has had disproportionate weapons. Feck, the lighter ones are freaking single-handed chainsaw swords. Those have GOT to weigh more than can be plausibly used efficiently in one hand if they were made in RL. So, I think the whole GW-based wargaming culture is WAY past concerning themselves (ourselves) with weapons weight. To some extent.

So very much looking forward to seeing those hybrids painted. My tip is to start with the termies however. Save the plump and tasty bits 'till last, or your termie work may well get alot less enthusiasm. If not from yourself, than maybe from Dakka. I mean, there's a reason the climax comes last, right? And the hybrids sure as hell are the climax of this blog. Maybe Dante too, but certainly not 15 terminators. Even if I'm sure you'll make a pretty awesome job on them too.


1st paragraph - LOL, those freaky alien sex cultists, gotta love'em

2nd paragraph - I wasnt even thinking of casting when I started, most especially since these are my first ever sculpt jobs, but it could have been good. That being said, since Inquisitor Earl is sculpting the rest I want on commision, I kind of want each one to be unique. For example, the size and type of 3rd arm on the middle hybrids can vary a great deal as far as I'm concerned, on the 3rd gen arm, the the 2 middle fingers are fused into a vestigial rending claw, whereas on the 2nd gen the atrophied arm is still all rending, but completely chicken wing style lol. Also some arms can have carapace, some not, etc etc. Variety is going to be key to these guys.

Were I to want any more than 3 of each (well 9 for the 4th but they dont require much in the way of scratch sculpting) casting would definitely be a very good option. Sound advice anyhow, were I to do this kind of thing again, I would definitely consider it.

3rd paragraph - will cover below

4th paragraph - You know what that is actually some good advice... I should really get on with the Terminators! That being said, I may do just the 4th gen as a test scheme, as I may get Earl to basecoat the others before he sends them over!

Thanks very much for your very flattering/helpful comments!

LunaHound wrote:Wow Tom , you have good eye for conversion and painting.
They look dynamic yet never over the top. Me like!


Thanks Luna!

CommissarKhaine wrote:I was going to make the same offer as dark, but I guess he got it all covered! And for the record: on the last pic, his elbow should be facing out, not down if you want it to be realistic. Sword nuts ftw!


Lol, to both my friends Commisar Khaine and Dark, I see where you are going and understand the concerns. I promise that the thumb will be adjusted to wrap. I did a little experiment with a garden shovel to see if I could pull off the same pose, and I could, so long as the handle was under my wrist/forearm, I only needed my fingers wrapped around the haft to provide a fulcrum and the weight and balance were nicely placed under my arm, not on the hand.

I think the key I'm going for is for him to look like he is pointing with the sword, not swinging it. I want it to be almost casual, an arrogant gesture, with the sword elegantly and seamlessly continuing the line of the arm. I have seen this pose used, though I cannot show it because I cant find a screenshot, in blade 2, pirates of the carribean and spartacus blood and sand, although I admit that it was with more gladius or rapier type swords.

Although I am not taking direct inspiration from your pics Dark, (and advice from Khaine) I really, really appreciate you taking the time to make the effort on my behalf, very kind, and I hope no offense is given. I also hope wrapping the thumb around will help alleviate the technical wrongness with the pose.

Alright, back to painting for me, thanks to all of you!

   
Made in ar
Fresh-Faced New User




Buenos Aires, Argentina

Hi everybody!

Here I am jumpimg on the MajorTom´s Space Hulk project.

I was commissioned by him to do an special character: Dante in Termie armor.

If you read the whole thread already know that, but I like to said it again .


Here´s a couple of pics of the work so far. Don´t expect something amazing ... yet.
The work in the model just begging, and the first steps of my style of work are usually very boring to see.

So, without futher ado, the basic shapes on chest, leg armature, "sandals" feet, and WIP shoulderpads.











Until soon!

FF

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Made in ca
Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings






Sunny SoCal

Great to have you join the party bud!

If you guys are interested to see what this gentleman is capable of, I highly suggest you simply google 'freakforge' and check out the images... a true talent!

On my end, I should have a completed model to show tonight or tomorrow, it's taking forever, but hopefully the results are worth it! It is one of the more elaborate pieces though....

   
Made in gb
Wing Commander





Kent, UK

Nice (early) feel to that Termie Dante.

"In the Grim Darkness of the far future; there is only countless Requisition Forms, filled in Triplicate."

 
   
Made in be
Liberated Grot Land Raida






Belgium

Dante is looking good!

MajorTom11: I agree that it looks like he's pointing the sword, no discussion there. I only added the comment since you seemed to want the mini to look as realistic as possible, that's all. In the end, it's your mini, and realism is always a dodgy subject when discussing 2m-high superhumans facing alien monstrosities . So, in short: no offense taken at all, just trying to provide additional information.

A Squeaky Waaagh!!

Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'

Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' 
   
Made in ar
Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader





Princedom of Buenos Aires

What CommissarKhaine said.

Also, that termi armour will look good.

   
Made in ca
Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings






Sunny SoCal

Thanks guys, thought the wrist and orientation will stay as is, the thumb has changed from the sketch at least

I just wanted to make sure to let people like (you guys) Khaine who has been keeping up with the thread and helpfully commenting multiple times throughout, and Dark who took the extra time and effort to take photos for my benefit, that these things are the reason I put this up in the first place, and participation like yours is really appreciated and encouraging. So a big Thank You to you guys and all the others who have been following!

I will be posting some pics tonight I think, So far I am at about 24 hours of painting on one mini lol, I really would like to get him done and move to the next, but at the same time, I can't until I know I've bumped up to the limit of my skills lol. Rock and a hard place and all that

   
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This is a really nice project, MT11.
It's going to be the envy of a LOT of people, when you're done.


...a lot more people than already, that is. LOL

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Reading, England

Looking forward to the termie and the painted versions of all the other minis

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Made in ca
Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings






Sunny SoCal

Still touch-ups here and there to do, and right now he is a bit shiny in spots waiting for his matte varnish (and not shiny enough in some other spots, waiting for gloss varnish lol), but over-all, it's good to go. Forgive the shiny-ness of some spots, its late and I'm shooting in artificial light.

I present you the first finished BA of my project, Sgt.Lorenzo.







Hope you like, this mini was pretty challenging and time-consuming lol!

Hopefully more updates on the hybrids and Dante soon, I am going to have to start production lining the termies in groups of 5 if I'm going to be any kind of productive doing them.

Cheers guys!




   
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Liberated Grot Land Raida






Belgium

Looking good, thought he face and hair seem lacking depth a bit compared with the armour - maybe it's the lighting?

A Squeaky Waaagh!!

Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'

Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' 
   
Made in ca
Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings






Sunny SoCal

I'm not sure, it could be the lighting, but then again, of all the things to paint, hair and skin are probably the things I have the least experience with. They have a ton of layers on them, but in order to blend them nicely I ended up going over them to smooth them out, maybe it killed the depth too much?

Advice is welcome to fix it if it needs fixing!

   
Made in fr
Longtime Dakkanaut





Chaumont, France

It works well with me... A bit of wear, a deep red... You got it right!!!

My WiP -affiliated Traitors - War on Tranch : Renegades
The World Tree's offsprings - Various WIPs : Skavens, Tzeentch & Nurgle CSMs, Marine Swap
My first tutorial - Object Source Lighting
What will I achieve in 7 months? : Radio Omid is online

"Squat Hulk- in space no one knows you no longer exist." - Gitzbitah
"Now you're just being silly, everyone knows red paint tastes fasta." - monkeytroll
"Both servers are on different continents so space meteors or thermonuclear war will not be enough take out dakka hopefully." - legoburner
Please remember to tick the "Disable Voting" box, if the pics you are uploading do not deserve votes (ie. early WIP, blurry pics, batreps, ...) Thanks in advance. 
   
Made in gb
Wing Commander





Kent, UK

That looks beautiful.
Extremely nice blending going on there my good man.

"In the Grim Darkness of the far future; there is only countless Requisition Forms, filled in Triplicate."

 
   
Made in be
Liberated Grot Land Raida






Belgium

MajorTom11 wrote:I'm not sure, it could be the lighting, but then again, of all the things to paint, hair and skin are probably the things I have the least experience with. They have a ton of layers on them, but in order to blend them nicely I ended up going over them to smooth them out, maybe it killed the depth too much?

Advice is welcome to fix it if it needs fixing!


Ogryn flesh is your friend here . I'd try adding some depth near the mouth, under the cheekbones and the hairline; scorced brownb might also work, but that makes for a very stark contrast. But, like I said, it could be the light, real-life viewing is the best remedy to that; it's just that the rest of the mini is so full of depth it would be a shame if the focal point of the model didn't match up; maybe the other readers of the blog can comment on it as well?

A Squeaky Waaagh!!

Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'

Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' 
   
Made in ca
Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings






Sunny SoCal

Here are some pics shot in daylight today, I think it should give a bit better impression of what he looks like -











What do you guys think of the skin in these better shots???

   
Made in se
Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman





Sweden

Oh yes, looks alot better. Smooth, but with definate creases. Just maybe the forehead lacks a few creases though.

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Union, Kentucky United States

I love what you are doing with all of this, and even the spin with sculpting some of your own pieces. Cheers MajorTom!!

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Whangarei , New Zealand

Really nice termie MajorTom, love the reds

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Liberated Grot Land Raida






Belgium

Looks a lot better, so it was the lighting. his face has a lot more depth now, love it!

A Squeaky Waaagh!!

Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'

Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' 
   
Made in ar
Fresh-Faced New User




Buenos Aires, Argentina

Lovely paintjob mate!

I really like the weathering on the model.
Definetely was a light problem at the first pics.

Here´s a little update on the robes. This kind of details it´s very time consuming. I have to sculpt the basic shapes of the cloths, the basic wrinkles and twist of the fabric, then let it dry a whole day, and finally sanded with a lot of love, and patience .

I take a pic besides a regular termie (well, regular about height, it´s a little bit converted) to compare sizes. Dante it´s a couple of MM taller, because his legs are almost straight.

The torso looks a bit displaced to the right, but it will be corrected in the next steps of the convertion work.







More pics to come in a day or 2.

Regards!


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Sunny SoCal

Looking good Tadz, and damn, nice Grey Knight dude lol!

   
 
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