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stripes are a friggin pain huh

Horrific. I had never tried them before, I knew they would take a while but god, they took absolutely ages :( I think it is worth the time though, wonky stripes would completely ruin their look once finished imo.

Is there no way to use something similar to a micron pen, the one used for scrolls? Would that speed it up any, or do you think you'd lose to to much quality?

Very nice Iron Warriors!! I love hazard stripes, but they are a pain -.-
If you feel like making stripes that's alittle more challenging, try doing the shoulderpads to, I had to use masking tape to get a decent result, but it looks great http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/131878-Chaos%20Terminator.html

Im pretty sure a soft tip felt pen could help out alright, but it would be very hard to vary width with it, and the only kinds soft enough to not get cought on small amounts of detailing would be very close to a paintbrush regardless.

I started off using a tiny brush and carefully painting each line, but they ended up wavy, the wrong width, too close, too far etc. so in the end I went for a 000 brush with a square tip and painted each stripe very quickly with a straight stroke. The longer I spent painting the stripe the more my hand would shake, so it worked out 100 times faster to just relax and not worry about trying to get it perfect each time.

Masking off the yellow parts would be the best way to work I think, but the parts I was painting were tiny and that would have been stupidly hard to do :(

They are washed now and dirtied down with some weathering on the striping, looking a lot better.

Edit: Nice Limbo I have to keep their shoulders free for the owners VII symbol, but I am doing a IW Demon prince for him as soon as I can get one from my flgs, and that will be to showpiece standard ( korvydae ) so there will be pleeeennntty of stripes to come

Why would he put a VII on them? Looking forward to the Daemon Prince, will it be a standard one or some sort of Machine Daemon?

Im doing Iron Warriors and Im not doing the fracking strips for my 13th.

Limbo wrote:Why would he put a VII on them?

I hope its not a legionary marking because they're the forth legion not the seventh .

My thought exactly

Lennysmash wrote:

Limbo wrote:Why would he put a VII on them?

I hope its not a legionary marking because they're the forth legion not the seventh .

Maybe a squad or company marking? Anyways, Ifalna, those IW are great! Looking forward to seeing the daemon prince!

Munch a friend of mine is converting a warjack into a DP for me.

That Skaven warlord is the best one I have seen so far. The colours are perfect.

Also I really like the skin tone on captain Korvydae. So shamelessly I ask, what colours did you use?

Thanks

Peter

Limbo wrote:Why would he put a VII on them? Looking forward to the Daemon Prince, will it be a standard one or some sort of Machine Daemon?

Afaik it's not a legion number, it might be something personal as I know he has been playing these for a very long time now. Either way, I won't quiz him on it as it's not really any of my business! The DP is going to be the standard new boxed plastic one, but I have some ideas to make it really pop. Going to try out metallic to flesh blending for the legs to move from iron up to skin (time intensive but I've managed it before to nice effect ) and also make use of a lot of weathering and masked out striping.

PDH wrote:That Skaven warlord is the best one I have seen so far. The colours are perfect.
Also I really like the skin tone on captain Korvydae. So shamelessly I ask, what colours did you use?
Thanks

Peter

Cheers PDH, he is on the backburner while I finish off Korv now as I have the IW's to work on in the meantime. The skin is about 80/20 astro grey to skull white as a base. The washes used to pull the detail out were all badab and flesh mixes of varying thickness. Highlights were the base colour with more skull white added per layer untill the final extreme highlight was pure skull white. Trick is to water the paint dowb slightly more for each layer, so quite thick for the base up to milky for the final highlight.

Hey, stripes arent soo bad
As a previous iron warriors player and alot of random adeptus mechanicus models ive learned a few things to help

Masking tape is the gak for this.
simply get a piece about an inch long and fold it back on its self (sticky side to sticky side)

You then have a flexible flat edge you can use.

Do you use a clap set to paint with? (ive seen a few people using these, along with myself)

Its simply a case of throw the model in a clamp, then you have both hands free. (painting the stripe and holding the flat edge.

Failing that, if you dont mind touching up a few bits here and there and dont have a clamp, it can still be done.
Simply cut off a tiny piece to use as a flat edge and stick it straight onto the model.
Masking tape isnt very sticky so it doesent leave residue on a model, and it shouldnt damage the paint if you take care.
Your then again left with both hands free to paint by the lines.



Another way: Micro-pens.
Brought some age ago for hard-lining tau models, which never got painted anyway.
I ended up using them for outlines for freehand work and things like stripes.






And as allways iffy, looking great
(naking me want to buy a korv model now)

Cheers ۞ Jack ۞, I will deffo be trying out different ways of getting the stripes done accurately for the DP. Masking off does seem the most foolproof

IW's have all their metals done now and a spot of detailing. All that is to be done now is some washes around joints and the guns, then finishing off their bits and pieces like the heads on spikes etc.

Well they're a bit tasty aren't they?

Firstly are these you own termies or for a commission, and secondly what lvl would you equate that to on your price list?

I think they are a commission.

Aye they are commission, and tabletop standard meaning at most 3 layers of paint + 2 washes. These would be €7 each + €1 assembly.

Just checking the exchange rate, I don't have anything just yet but always good to know for the future. In particular I'm thinking about my chapters HQ chars.

Just a little point as well Iffy, I think you should use some of the models from this thread on your home page. Whilst the models are very good on your homepage, these I have to say are a marked improvement. Especially when looking at Korv compared to Shrike.

hey Ifalna...

looks like you've hooked up some really fun commissions so far...
great way to paint the cool minis without shelling out the cash...

i'm a little late to the party here, so maybe this has been covered already...
how are you painting the hazard stripes???
are you trying to paint the yellow lines over black???
just a quick tip, i find it easiest to paint the whole area with the yellow you want, and then come back in with the black for the stripes...
this makes it easier to get a nice yellow tone without having to worry about using too many layers, and making too many mistakes with a color that can be a pain to get good coverage with...
a liberal coat of dark brown over the black basecoat, followed by a mid-brown, and then the yellow...
it's much easier to get the fine stripes with black, than it is with yellow...

keep up the good work...

cheers
jah

Lennysmash wrote:Just checking the exchange rate, I don't have anything just yet but always good to know for the future. In particular I'm thinking about my chapters HQ chars.

Just a little point as well Iffy, I think you should use some of the models from this thread on your home page. Whilst the models are very good on your homepage, these I have to say are a marked improvement. Especially when looking at Korv compared to Shrike.

Sounds good dude, and I will most certainly be adding these models up, but not till I have finished shots ;D Won't be too long now anyway, Korv and the IW's are near completion. Thanks for saying there is a marked improvement, I am trying very hard to learn as much as possible from each model and apply it to my next project.

jah-joshua wrote:
how are you painting the hazard stripes???
are you trying to paint the yellow lines over black???

U MAD??

No I'm no masochist, haha! These are tausept ochre, black stripes, then tausept + white as a slight highlight on the yellow. I can't even begin to imagine how horrific it would be to try and paint the yellow stripes over black. Thinking about it is physically painful! Thanks for the compliment though, coming from a painter of your caliber, it means a lot.

Any chance of a quick tut on the gold please hun 0_o
Looks quality and its something ive allways found a pain in the arse to get right.
The skull shoulder pad looks perfect.

I really like your models! props!

Yellow on black is possible though guys, saw this chaps video the other day whilst rummaging through youtube. Even if you don't watch this video check out his others, some of them show some of his very cool conversions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc4E4WfpXrU

Iffy this may give you some cool ideas for future commissions.

The gold on these was very simple.

Trim -
scorched brown base
1/1 tin bitz/shining gold layer
thick wash 1/1 badab/gryphonne
final highlight shining gold.

Shoulders-
scorched brown base
1/1 tin bitz/shining gold solid layer
shining gold drybrush
thick wash 1/1 badab/gryphonne
shining gold drybrush

Thanks
Might give it a go on a sanguinary guard in a bit, see how it works out (most golds ive seen look too bright and garish)

If that works i can finally get them painted and stop trying out the white marble look lol.

Very nice IW's! I am loving the yellow stripes.


How long have you been painting miniatures?

I started painting around 6 years ago now I guess, but I stopped for about 3 years and only took it up again in 2008. It was surprising how a break like that can wither away your skills. It was only when I finished my HE lord that I felt like I was back to where I had left off :S

Final work on the Iron warriors nearly completion, but I need a bit of advice please dakka!

The termies have random tassles on their shoulder spines which I cannot work out what colour to paint. Now usually I have no problem working out matching/clashing colours for the tidbits on a model, but the only colours on these termies are gold and silver, and so nothing is popping out at me as being a good colour to use. The only colours I can really think might be ok are pale grey or dark grey as they will neutrally match the silver.

What do you think? :(



No idea how to continue with them bar a grey..

I also applied some really basic (I cant really afford to go overboard with these afterall )weathering to the chain weapons, it gave a nice overall effect but I definitely need to practice with a sponge and weathering colour mixes in the future!



I have ordered some Vallejo metallics, thinner, and black and whites that should be here within the week, and a couple of new brushes going all the way to a 10/0 which I am pretty sure is just a single hair. I also ordered a small lightbox with coloured backgrounds to attempt to get more coherent and better lighted pictures taken in the future. God bless you Ebay

Black to offset the metal?