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Frazzled wrote:

JOHIRA wrote:

Melissia wrote:Oh great, they've made a tentacle rape miniature now. So that's one less thing I can value western sculpts for over Japanese sculpts.

That's not really a fair comparison. Tentacle rape hentai exists because there is a certain group of people that it sexually arouses. I seriously doubt the sculptors intended anyone to be aroused by this Wet Nurse model. Not all nudity is sexually arousing, as I was informed the last time I went to a public bath.

Its an excellent comparison. Thats pretty much what this thing is.

Are you saying you're aroused by this model?

Ouze wrote:

MasterDRD wrote:Pinup or other one? I liked them both, but I'm too broke to buy any of them...

Pinup. I dread painting the cloak, because I am terrible at cloth. Flesh, I'm not so bad with.

Is it wrong/weird that I'd love to get the Twilight Pinup and use it as an alternate Archon for my Dark Eldar? I'm kind of assuming the size of the model would be all right, maybe a bit tall.

She'd look awesome if...what little armor she has was painted like my DE army.

The Fragile Breath wrote:

Ouze wrote:

MasterDRD wrote:Pinup or other one? I liked them both, but I'm too broke to buy any of them...

Pinup. I dread painting the cloak, because I am terrible at cloth. Flesh, I'm not so bad with.

Is it wrong/weird that I'd love to get the Twilight Pinup and use it as an alternate Archon for my Dark Eldar? I'm kind of assuming the size of the model would be all right, maybe a bit tall.

She'd look awesome if...what little armor she has was painted like my DE army.

I think she's make a great Archon. As the sword has the hand attached, I don't see why you couldn't also swap it for a dagger and use her as a Wych - although the pose is a little un-dynamic for that.

Only problem is I'm not sure if the scale would work - did you see that picture next to a quarter?

The other problem I have with her as a Wych is conceptual. Not with that specific model, but with Wyches in general. They all have knives. Jes Goodwin said that was intentional, to show how dangerous they are... that all they need is a dagger. Really? A drug using woman with a knife? Any policeman in a metro area is equipped to deal with that now, in 2010, and does so regularly "Yeah, I tazed some crackhead, bringing her in." C'mon.

Hehe I agree with that sentiment, but only in the larger "bringing a [melee weapon] to a gunfight" sense. A suitably quick and aggressive person with a knife or two is still extremely dangerous even if you have a more suitable melee weapon like a sword. If you have a gun, however, both Knifey McStabby and Swordy McSlashy are going to die in a hurry.

I kind of think 40k needs Stand and Shoot reactions.

Mannahnin wrote:Honestly, the part that I dislike about it is the women. The proportions are those of surgically-enhanced pornstars, and seem designed to appeal to the sexually frustrated.

yes to the poses, no to the proportions. They're pregnant and nursing.

JOHIRA wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

JOHIRA wrote:

Melissia wrote:Oh great, they've made a tentacle rape miniature now. So that's one less thing I can value western sculpts for over Japanese sculpts.

That's not really a fair comparison. Tentacle rape hentai exists because there is a certain group of people that it sexually arouses. I seriously doubt the sculptors intended anyone to be aroused by this Wet Nurse model. Not all nudity is sexually arousing, as I was informed the last time I went to a public bath.

Its an excellent comparison. Thats pretty much what this thing is.

Are you saying you're aroused by this model?

No I don't get off on tentacle rape. I'm not a repressed 13 year old. How about you?

What the!?

Wow... it certainly is a... unique model.
I can admire the craftsmanship that was put into it, but it still scares me a little.

Ouze wrote:

The Fragile Breath wrote:

Ouze wrote:

MasterDRD wrote:Pinup or other one? I liked them both, but I'm too broke to buy any of them...

Pinup. I dread painting the cloak, because I am terrible at cloth. Flesh, I'm not so bad with.

Is it wrong/weird that I'd love to get the Twilight Pinup and use it as an alternate Archon for my Dark Eldar? I'm kind of assuming the size of the model would be all right, maybe a bit tall.

She'd look awesome if...what little armor she has was painted like my DE army.

I think she's make a great Archon. As the sword has the hand attached, I don't see why you couldn't also swap it for a dagger and use her as a Wych - although the pose is a little un-dynamic for that.

Only problem is I'm not sure if the scale would work - did you see that picture next to a quarter?

Whoo!

Anyways, I did think of the scaling problem. I thought of the sword being the equivalent to a Huskblade, I'd even paint it all fancy and all that jazz! Alas, maybe she is to be a replacement Archon for friendly games only? A shame. Maybe I'll just have to buy it and then see about the scaling.

Frazzled wrote:No I don't get off on tentacle rape. I'm not a repressed 13 year old. How about you?

Nope. As I said above, I one of the millions of people in the world who can look at nudity (or in this case, nude bitz of women) and not be locked into seeing it as sexual. I honestly doubt anyone could see this as sexually arousing. Just look at this thread. We're six pages in and we've had a variety of responses saying everything from, "Ew," to "That's terrible," to "I like it, it's horror," but I don't think we've had even one person respond with, "HOTT".

"HOTT"

Now there is one

(I'm not serious, just to clarify)

I thought the naked chick without the preggerbelly was pretty damn hot.

Definitely different.
Lot of detail sculpt wise but perhaps a little to much detail in certain areas, at least for me.
Wouldn’t be a sculpt my wife would approve of for sure.

MasterDRD wrote:I thought the naked chick without the preggerbelly was pretty damn hot.

You mean the one that looks normal from behind but from the front has a face like a vaccuumed-out zombie?

Is there any actual potential to use this model in current games systems or is it just self indulgent crap?
Someone mentioned as a GD of Slaanesh earlier? I lol'd but to each their own.

MasterDRD wrote:I thought the naked chick without the preggerbelly was pretty damn hot.

lol... but in all seriousness they're ALL pretty stunning to look at

MasterDRD wrote:

Erasoketa wrote:I think that those represent bull testicles, not boobies.

And that's better... how?

Did I say it's any better? I didn't.


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The Fragile Breath wrote:

Ouze wrote:

MasterDRD wrote:Pinup or other one? I liked them both, but I'm too broke to buy any of them...

Pinup. I dread painting the cloak, because I am terrible at cloth. Flesh, I'm not so bad with.

Is it wrong/weird that I'd love to get the Twilight Pinup and use it as an alternate Archon for my Dark Eldar? I'm kind of assuming the size of the model would be all right, maybe a bit tall.

She'd look awesome if...what little armor she has was painted like my DE army.

I have the Twilight Pinup and the new Archon model, both still unassembled and unpainted. I'll try to make a pic of both when I have enough time, for scale reference

very gieger-esque, creepy

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

MajorTom11 wrote:Subject wise, I don't know what the hell you are supposed to do with that when you are done painting it lol.

I think you're supposed to put it back on your desk on it's scenic base you carved from children's hollowed skulls and go and check on the girl you're holding captive whilst waiting for her skin to be lotioned enough to make a dress out of it, you argue with her and then go and have a little dance with your crown jewels tucked between your legs.

IT PUTS THE LOTION ON ITS SKIN OR ELSE IT GETS THE HOSE AGAIN! It does this whenever it is told...

Ratius wrote:Is there any actual potential to use this model in current games systems or is it just self indulgent crap?

Oh wow, I've heard of gamers being self-righteous and obtuse, but you, sir, take the cake. Something that's not instantly useable in a game is automatically "self-indulgent crap". Wow. If your point of view was any more narrow you'd probably say that dice are only useful for 40k and any non-40k use of dice is pointless and stupid.

Agamemnon2 wrote:

Ratius wrote:Is there any actual potential to use this model in current games systems or is it just self indulgent crap?

Oh wow, I've heard of gamers being self-righteous and obtuse, but you, sir, take the cake. Something that's not instantly useable in a game is automatically "self-indulgent crap". Wow. If your point of view was any more narrow you'd probably say that dice are only useful for 40k and any non-40k use of dice is pointless and stupid.

lol

JOHIRA wrote:I honestly doubt anyone could see this as sexually arousing.

I sure as hell don't. But I said I wanted one, which obviously means I must be a sexually-repressed, 13-year-old virgin.

Which is bs. I'm not 13!

Also: self-indulgent crap? lolwut?

Oh wow, I've heard of gamers being self-righteous and obtuse, but you, sir, take the cake. Something that's not instantly useable in a game is automatically "self-indulgent crap". Wow. If your point of view was any more narrow you'd probably say that dice are only useful for 40k and any non-40k use of dice is pointless and stupid.

Let me clarify: I do think the model is self indulgent crap. However everone is entitled to their opinion.

I also admit I dont have much knowledge of many game systems outside the mainsteram.

However the question remains a valid one. Not answering, taking my comments semi-personally and playing the "you sir" card, accompanied by your general tone fits you snugly into the self-righteous catagory, not me.

Beautfiul also how you take one comment and are immediatly able to draw a sweeping generalisation on my overall outlook on gaming. I guess some things just dont change.

Agamemnon2 wrote:

Ratius wrote:Is there any actual potential to use this model in current games systems or is it just self indulgent crap?

Oh wow, I've heard of gamers being self-righteous and obtuse, but you, sir, take the cake. Something that's not instantly useable in a game is automatically "self-indulgent crap". Wow. If your point of view was any more narrow you'd probably say that dice are only useful for 40k and any non-40k use of dice is pointless and stupid.

Well if you're not getting it for a game, but are just getting it for...personal use...

Ratius wrote:Beautfiul also how you take one comment and are immediatly able to draw a sweeping generalisation on my overall outlook on gaming. I guess some things just dont change.

I was using your comment as a generalization of a larger phenomenon among other people's opinions, not as a deep analysis on your views in particular. I've heard the comment "I can't use this model in a game so it's useless" so many times it's long ago ceased to be amusing. I collect models as aesthetic objects in their own right, so the notion that a piece's worth and value is somehow linked to whether or not it has corresponding game statistics is bizarre and I'm afraid your word choice simply unwittingly painted a target on your forehead in this case. See, my collection is full of "self-indulgent crap", from Rackham, Reaper, Heresy, Hasslefree, etc, etc.

To finally answer your original question, I understand the KD people do have some kind of game system in the works, but I've not heard much of it

Duely noted, I apologise if my post came across as overly defensive, it was a genunie query, as I mentioned I dont have a lot of experience of the non mainstream games.

I also accept your point regarding collecting models from as aesthtic PoV, you must concede though that not everyone does and so seeing something as "non mainstream" as this is going to cause some.....well discussion.

I am always sort of surprised that more people don't buy cool models just to have them. I usually have to remind myself to avoid such "lust buys" because I have way too much metal and plastic things lying around that I don't use in games. Great fun to paint though.

Probably a difference in perspective from those who own models to play, and those who play to give them something to do with all their painted models :-P

Wehrkind wrote:I am always sort of surprised that more people don't buy cool models just to have them. I usually have to remind myself to avoid such "lust buys" because I have way too much metal and plastic things lying around that I don't use in games. Great fun to paint though.

Probably a difference in perspective from those who own models to play, and those who play to give them something to do with all their painted models :-P

I have acquired models just to have. Indeed you're forgetting the much larger market for artistic models-(Revell/Tamiya). I'd proffer this doesn't meet that standard.

Frazzled wrote:I have acquired models just to have. Indeed you're forgetting the much larger market for artistic models-(Revell/Tamiya). I'd proffer this doesn't meet that standard.

I wouldn't be so sure, I've seen all kinds of strange things in the 54+ mm figures market, especially from Japanese "garage" producers.

Sorry Frazzled, was referring more to the "What's the point of this model if I can't use it in a game" mindset."

Trust me, I am not forgetting the artistic market

I agree with Aggie that there is a really large market for "strange" large scale models just for display/painting, which was my point. Use is game is often secondary (or completely irrelevant in many cases) for such models.

For me it is more an effort to remember that some people only buy models as game markers, treating them essentially as I do my templates; a means to play the game, not an end in themselves.