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kingdomdeath wrote:To celebrate I've put the Gorm and the Preacher on sale at 50% off!

If you put the two pinup models on at 50%, I'd gladly buy them.

Honestly, maybe it just means that I'm screwed up, but I didn't find the Wet Nurse all that disturbing. The level of detail on the pregnant women, however, caught me off guard. Maybe I just watch too many horror movies, maybe I've played too many horror games, but it's not all that horrifying to me.

Do not take that as a bad thing, I think it's a very awesome model. I too wondered what Dark Eldar players would want to do with naked/pregnant women models, I personally can't think of any reason to use them.

Edit: On second thought, I'd just love the Twilight Knight pinup. I have no idea what I'd use her for, but it's an awesome model, and I'm sure I could find some use for it.

That's got more pointless tits than a gathering of Big Brother contestants.

Absolutionis wrote:For those saying this is Slaaneshi, this is NOT Slaaneshi. Everything with nudity is not Slaaneshi.

Speaking for myself, I feel rather comfortable classifying tentacle rape as a Slaaneshi sort of thing to do. I can't really see Nurgle getting into that.

kingdomdeath wrote:Just thought I'd chime in and clarify on something:

The Wet Nurse does not birth anything, nor does it impregnate women. It's function is solely to raise the young. The large sack in the front is a milk sack, that is drained from other women.

OK, so while you're clarifying, what exactly is the, like, life cycle here? What's with the penis-tentacle? Is it snatching babies from pregnant women and raising them, and if so, what's with the non-naked women?

It's a boob monster. Trying to make it make sense is a bit pointless. It has boobs and it's trying to make you uncomfortable by using imagery related to sexual organs and pregancy.

I would rather see something like this without all the boobs to be honest.

Da Boss wrote:I would rather see something like this without all the boobs to be honest.

Get rid of all the boobs, and what do you have left? If it's supposed to raise (undead?) babies, having boobs is important to that role. A giant rolling tanker of baby formula just wouldn't be the same.

To me, the baby thing seems like a justification to sculpt lots of boobs on the model, especially given the proportions on the pregnant ladies.
I mean OBVIOUSLY feeding babies is what boobs are FOR, but that's how this comes across, to me. Giant freaky eerie faced monster thingy would work better for me without all the boobs everywhere.

Though I must compliment the sculptor on his technical skill, as always. Kingdom Death stuff is always well executed, even if I don't <3 the concept.

Da Boss wrote:It's a boob monster. Trying to make it make sense is a bit pointless. It has boobs and it's trying to make you uncomfortable by using imagery related to sexual organs and pregancy.

I would rather see something like this without all the boobs to be honest.

No offense, but this is simultaneously the best, and the most useless criticism.

The best, because you're getting the point of the work: the unease and perturbation created by the juxtaposition of the the familiar and the fantastical, the contrast between the familiar, nurturing elements and the exotic and grotesque elements.

The worst, because, having "gotten the point", you simply don't like it. Or, specifically, you don't like one element, which happens to be the critical element. You're asking for the defining element to be removed, or, put another way, you just want something else entirely.

It's like a situation where a chef prepares a delicious roast of beef for a diner, and after the dish is set onto the table, the diner remarks that the roast is beutifully done, but he doesn't like meat. Now, contrast that to a diner being served a beef chili, and saying he would prefer it without meat. A chef can prepare a meatless chili*, he can't prepare a roast-less roast.

Having said all that, the sentiment is exactly why I haven't commented before; I think the sculpting is fantastic technically, and the associated females are simply fantastic (if they were available separately I think the market for them would be far larger then the item as a whole). But it just doesn't "do it" for me. There's no one thing that I can say "oh, take that off and I'd buy 2", it's as a whole just not to my tastes. So I'll wait, confident that with the level of skill and courage on display at Kingdom Death, it's only a matter of time before they produce something that compels me to finally pry open my wallet.

*Yes, I know that there is a long and storied argument about what exactly constitutes a proper chili, but let's leave that sleeping dog lie.

Also, seriously, make those ladies available separately.

I get why it has all the boobs, but the penis-look the miscarriage vacuum has doesn't seem needed and if anything makes people assume it is for getting it on with the ladies. It would be better if it was given a different look so that people wouldn't get confused over it.

As for the model itself, I quite like it. It is pretty creepy. I'd make it available separately without the women though, just to make it more viable for the average painter to own. On its own you could get away with it, but with them involved it isn't exactly the greatest conversation starter, and goes from "That is pretty creepy" to "Ah...".

Buzzsaw wrote:Also, seriously, make those ladies available separately.

terribletrygon wrote:I'd make it available separately without the women though, just to make it more viable for the average painter to own. On its own you could get away with it, but with them involved it isn't exactly the greatest conversation starter, and goes from "That is pretty creepy" to "Ah...".

It looks like there are people from both sides in favour of this idea.

Not keen on the nudes tbh
they look ok at first glance, with some nice sculpting.
But the relationship of parts and proportions are a bit squiffy.

The lower legs of the terrified nude are far too long.
And just for a change the bubbies are straight from the "Adolescents Book of Wet Dreams". When will miniature sculpters go to some life drawing classes instead of looking at pics from www.siliconvalleysluts.orgi?

The Wet Nurse (aka Mama Multi-megamamms) is all those things already said.
Creepy as intended. Not sure I would want it on the mantlepiece myself, but impressive.

Great sculpt and I think the alien flesh tones will make it awesome to paint.

If I played Tyranids, I'd make a Tervigon out of this, lol.

Monster Rain wrote:Is there some kind of story behind these things?

That is really crazy, but I see potential for some really mind-boggling strangeness in the fluff for something like that...

As I understand it, in the Kingdom Death world, the few remaining humans are little more than a food supply for monsters. But the monsters know that they can't just eat all humans or they'd starve, so they keep them the way we keep cattle.

Just by looking at this model, I'd guess that it's purpose is to impregnate human women en masse and nourish lots of babies at once until they grow large enough to slaughter... Just a guess.

That makes a lot more sense than the official fluff IMO. I mean why give the thing a penor if it doesn't make rape babies?

Sick? Yes. Weird? Yes. Totally Inappropriate for anything? No.

It's a very well crafted model, but isn't something you'd use for just anything, though it would suit some things very well. This would make a perfect generic greater daemon in a CSM army or an Unaligned Greater Daemon for a Dark Heresy game acting as a BBEG for example, or for something like World of Darkness or Call of C'thulu.

I wish we had more truly disturbing and creepy models out there, and less of the cartoony generic monster demons.

Wierd (and perverted, if we must call it that) as it is, I love it. I want to paint one up just to see what I could do with it, and would make a great decoration to someone who was into horror flicks. Incredible cost too!

Also, Tyranid conversion?

Vaktathi wrote:Sick? Yes. Weird? Yes. Totally Inappropriate for anything? No.

It's a very well crafted model, but isn't something you'd use for just anything, though it would suit some things very well. This would make a perfect generic greater daemon in a CSM army or an Unaligned Greater Daemon for a Dark Heresy game acting as a BBEG for example, or for something like World of Darkness or Call of C'thulu.

I wish we had more truly disturbing and creepy models out there, and less of the cartoony generic monster demons.

I would hardly call this 'generic', what with all the sexuality involved. Just looking at it you immediately notice lots and lots of boobs (a trademark of Slaaneshi models) and what can only be called a tentacle penis. It's surrounded by naked pregnant women, undoubtedly its victims.

Easily one of the best models that I've ever seen and it nearly left me speechless. Subtle it isn't, but as so many games out there talk about inhuman horrors as being part of their setting, it's good to see a company actually come out with something horrifying (as opposed a vaguely ogrish thing with spikes and wings).

This had my girlfriend staring at the screen repeating "why does it have so many boobs and it that a penis" for about 5 minutes!

I quite like it, although it does seem to be based on the Broodmother from Dragonage.

i...don't like bewbs anymore...

Frankly it looks puerile and childish, done by a virgin, for virgins. Its something you'd see a 14 year old boy who has self image issues visualizing.

On the positive, the Police can use their invoice records to track current virgins/future serial killers.

It puts on the lotion or it gets the hose again...

Maybe this model will scare some virgins into staying virgins.

Some women turn into this thing when they get angry! XD

The Fragile Breath wrote:
Some women turn into this thing when they get angry! XD

Get real. They are far far worse than that when they're angry.

Frazzled wrote:

The Fragile Breath wrote:
Some women turn into this thing when they get angry! XD

Get real. They are far far worse than that when they're angry.

Damn straight they are!

I would rather anger wet nurse than go home and face the music tonight!

You're very right, sir. A whole lot scarier, like, an angry woman makes this thing look like a cute puppy.

Agreed. I'd rather face the wet nurse blindfolded, naked, and with no weapon than to face my girlfriend when she's angry.

MasterDRD wrote:

Vaktathi wrote:Sick? Yes. Weird? Yes. Totally Inappropriate for anything? No.

It's a very well crafted model, but isn't something you'd use for just anything, though it would suit some things very well. This would make a perfect generic greater daemon in a CSM army or an Unaligned Greater Daemon for a Dark Heresy game acting as a BBEG for example, or for something like World of Darkness or Call of C'thulu.

I wish we had more truly disturbing and creepy models out there, and less of the cartoony generic monster demons.

I would hardly call this 'generic', what with all the sexuality involved. Just looking at it you immediately notice lots and lots of boobs (a trademark of Slaaneshi models) and what can only be called a tentacle penis. It's surrounded by naked pregnant women, undoubtedly its victims.

Just because it has a sexual nature doesn't mean it is automatically slaanesh, just as some other killy daemon isn't automatically Khorne. It could stand in for something slaaneshi, but not in the normal "omg bewbs" sense, but rather the kind of excess that arises from psychopathy of parents that end up doing terrible things to their children or something.

I love it and would make a great KoS but I would have second thoughts about putting that thing on the table :L maybe it should include a bra....or ten for when theres kids around

Its not the breasts that are really disturbing. Check out statues of Diana of the Ephesians from greek culture sometimes (though there is some debate about what they are).

What's disturbing are the vaginas.

The three figures are pretty normal, though the poses seem to be explicitly revelatory instead of more naturally at rest.

But the orifice in the back, and the vestigial woman's legs on the top that create the impression that the entire monster is inserting itself in the vagina of some poor woman now rendered vestigially irrelevant.

That's what's disturbing.

Boobs? So what. The breasts are actually being used to nurse a little baby in one instance.

Vaktathi wrote:

MasterDRD wrote:

Vaktathi wrote:Sick? Yes. Weird? Yes. Totally Inappropriate for anything? No.

It's a very well crafted model, but isn't something you'd use for just anything, though it would suit some things very well. This would make a perfect generic greater daemon in a CSM army or an Unaligned Greater Daemon for a Dark Heresy game acting as a BBEG for example, or for something like World of Darkness or Call of C'thulu.

I wish we had more truly disturbing and creepy models out there, and less of the cartoony generic monster demons.

I would hardly call this 'generic', what with all the sexuality involved. Just looking at it you immediately notice lots and lots of boobs (a trademark of Slaaneshi models) and what can only be called a tentacle penis. It's surrounded by naked pregnant women, undoubtedly its victims.

Just because it has a sexual nature doesn't mean it is automatically slaanesh, just as some other killy daemon isn't automatically Khorne. It could stand in for something slaaneshi, but not in the normal "omg bewbs" sense, but rather the kind of excess that arises from psychopathy of parents that end up doing terrible things to their children or something.

So you argue against my assertion that it's Slaaneshi... and then provide another explanation as to why it IS Slaaneshi? Thanks, I guess...

pduggie wrote:Its not the breasts that are really disturbing. Check out statues of Diana of the Ephesians from greek culture sometimes (though there is some debate about what they are).

What's disturbing are the vaginas.

The three figures are pretty normal, though the poses seem to be explicitly revelatory instead of more naturally at rest.

But the orifice in the back, and the vestigial woman's legs on the top that create the impression that the entire monster is inserting itself in the vagina of some poor woman now rendered vestigially irrelevant.

That's what's disturbing.

Boobs? So what. The breasts are actually being used to nurse a little baby in one instance.

O.O
Oh. My. Raptorjesus. How the **** did I not notice that before?! That just bumped this up from 'moderately disturbing' to 'OHGODITBURNSSSSSSS!!!!!!! CANNOT UNSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'

pduggie wrote:Its not the breasts that are really disturbing. Check out statues of Diana of the Ephesians

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking of, but I couldn't come up with the name! Thank you sir!

Oddly enough, this is the first Kingdom Death figure I have really considered buying. The other ones don't really do it for me much past "That is a nice sculpt". This one though is really like nothing else out there, and captures that primitive goddess look really well. To me at least, ancient gods, especially eastern and some very early European ones, really say "Hi, I am creepy as hell, but you are still going to worship me because I am eldritch terror otherwise. KTHNXBAI!" This model really kind of hits that spot for me. I can definitely see why it sold out the first day.

I could take or leave the random chicks around it, and depending on the use lose the tail peen, but they are nicely done and might find their way into other uses. The monster itself though would make an excellent greater daemon or similar monstrosity. Possibly an epic sort of eldar god summoned by primitives living past the edge of civilization. What is the scale on it?