Cubes of Tzeentch

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**spudkins**

Dont really understand this at all.
peace

**Pipboy101**

I love this army and it's concept. It is giving a loose form to something that by all definition has no form. It is almost a forbidden planet concept when the form of the beast comes from the subconscious where the primal and abstract resides. Wonderful work and it shows a true concept of the subconscious. There is a sense of menace that adds to the chaotic feel of the shapeless warp energy trying to from to the physical rational mind.

You have my exalt.

**LunaHound**

How does OP creat the melty stringy effect?

**Nightbringer's Chosen**

LunaHound wrote:How does OP creat the melty stringy effect?

I believe it's a heat gun on foam.

I've seen certain glues and such do the same. Zip Kicker, among others, does quite a fascinating number on foam.

**gwaahr**

Its using a mixture of superglue, heat gun and lighters - basically heat sources and/or chemicals that will distrupt the surface of polystyrene. Its basically a matter of experimentation

Im currently doing experiments with expanding foam and a hair dryer for Cubes 2.0

**MrMerlin**

What do you do about the unhealthy vapours? I'd like to copy your cubes....

**gwaahr**

buy a good quality gas mask

I was using a dust mask at first until I realised it was doing nooooooooothing

**neil101**

i love these , one of the best army ideas in 40k

**baseballclu**

Your work is pure artistic genius and I don't know why people complain about something so original and non-conformist, though that may be the very thing that causes some people to not understand it, the non-conformist artistic expression. The whole idea is genius and the colour scheme really helps with the trans-dimensional horrors that tzeentch is.

**ENOZONE**

Interesting. Bring out the spray paint.

**Slaanesh-Devotee**

This is fantastic!

**SlaveToDorkness**

No, it's terrible.

**Mcfloonoo**

SlaveToDorkness wrote:
No, it's terrible.

Agreed.

**Rippy**

Necromancer ahoy!
Also, I don't get it. I could scrunch up paper and put it on bases, still not art, just being stingy and not buying models.

**Snrub**

Allow me to quote the OP

gwaahr wrote:
If people dont get it i feel no obligation to provide an explanation - some people just wont.

but anyway, heres a tidbit,

from Thomas McEvilley's "13 ways of looking at a blackbird":
11. Content arising directly from the formal properties of the work.
"The formalist idea that abstract art lacks content is rightly seen today as archaic. It seems the associative and conceptualizing activities of the human mind go on constantly and transpire in an instant. thus we see everything within some frame of meaning. If perceptions truly had no content whatsoever they would be blank moments that would leave no trace in memory. At one level, formal configurations function as ontological propositions. Merely by shaping energy one models the real; every grasping or shaping is a rhetorical persuasion for a view of reality. Critics commonly have asserted that music has no content. But, for example, Beethoven is widely experienced as presenting a view of reality as stormy, turbulent and full of passionate arriving, while a Pollock drip painting asserts flux and indefiniteness of identity as qualities that can be found in the world. This tautological interface between form and content is not a mystical attempt to unify opposites. It simply means that a work demonstrates a type of reality by embodying it. Thus, abstract art, far from being non-representational, is, in effect, a representation of concepts; it is based on a process like that of metaphor, and overlaps somewhat with both iconography and representation."

Just because you think something is terrible doesn't mean it actually is. You just might not get it.

Also, don't necro threads more then a month old, no matter how awesome they may be.

**yakface**

It is fine to post replies in old painting and Modelling threads as they don't tend to contain topical information that is out of date.

**Agamemnon2**

SlaveToDorkness wrote:
No, it's terrible.

Well aren't you a joyless cretin. There is in all honesty no point in going around saying "This is crap" at people's models. I could do it to a goodly percentage of threads here, but I won't because why should I?

**Butterqwist**

Funny that people say ¨well I could also do that...
The trick is that you have not and he/she did, that is art for you m8. Example: Many people today can make excellent copies of Claude Monet. Some even with better execution then him when talking about technical skill, but they were not first and therefor their paintings have no real value, according to all the international institutions of art).
I say this work is amazing and hope hes coming back with updates

**Alpharius**

Constructive (and polite) criticism is the order of the day, all day, every day.

Especially in the P&M sections.

**SlaveToDorkness**

I thought about offering up my reasoning for not liking these, but then figured I'd go with the OPs "I don't have to explain myself" attitude. So went with the minimum effort and explanation, keeping with the theme.

**Xenon**

I really like this army. Very chaotic, mysteric and abstract, just as tzeentzch should be. I also like the way you have painted them. Really does justice for those foam cubes.

**Anvildude**

What you missed was the berét jauntily cocked over one eye.

Personally I think this is brilliant, and what more Chaos modellers should aspire to. The Warp is meant to be the manifestation of all Man's twisted subconscious desires (or at least the daemons are?)- that means they're not always going to come out looking like chicks with crab claws or red Devil Dudes. Especially for Tzeench, who's reasoning we cannot know.

**BrotherOfBone**

The fluff thing is interesting, how Tzeentchian demons don't have any real form, but if they don't have any real form then why are they all in a cube-esq shape?
Doesn't make sense to me, personally.
Also I don't tend to like anything done with an airbrush, seems lazy, but whatever floats your boat. I'm a paintbrush man myself.

**THEDARK1RI5ES**

Love this concept! A massive 'change' (geddit?) from the usual.

**Boss Salvage**

Slaanesh-Devotee wrote:This is fantastic!

SlaveToDorkness wrote:No, it's terrible.

The debate rages on!!

The army is brilliant Gwaahr, keep being a bloody madman

- Salvage

**Kid_Kyoto**

Late to the party but I vote for awesome.

I think spheres or irregular blocks might have worked better (cubes seem so orderly) but other than that, it's fantastic.

**Yggdrasil**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Late to the party but I vote for awesome.

I think spheres or irregular blocks might have worked better (cubes seem so orderly) but other than that, it's fantastic.

I just love when Mods are the ones necro'ing... Can I report it ?!?

I'm still on the "awesome" side, though, and it's nice to have another look at them... So thanks KK !

**Sageheart**

Agreed with above.
Now would like to see more of those scouts!

**jhe90**

The warp is ment to be a place man cannot comprehend, the cubes are not a push too far.

Its as great creative response to the concept

**queen_annes_revenge**

Hmm.. I like the cubes.. But i think theyd be better as part of a more conventional army.. It looks like you couldnt afford regular models/cant paint regular models/or are one of them artsy a*seholes who have to be totally different... Maybe just make a unit of the cubes, and have demons erupting from them.. Like theyre carriers for them