GW's other October releases: New tools and liquid green stuff - pic in first post

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**Korraz**

BrassScorpion wrote:
Liquid greenstuff sounds interesting.

Vallejo already makes a liquid gap filler in a tube for plastic models. It's handy stuff. GW is finally catching up.

A lot of experienced modelers use Squadron putty for gap filling, it's much cheaper and easier than Kneadatite Green Stuff which is actually a sculpting medium though it obviously works for filling gaps too. Anyone who's built models for the sake of doing so other than just Warhammer items is probably already familiar with such things.

As for the comments on GW's pricing on Emery boards, etc. as always these 3rd party tool items are sold at GW as a convenience and they are marked up substantially. If it's convenient to buy them elsewhere you can definitely do better, but one-stop shopping clearly works for some people given the amount of such items GW sells. In fact, Green Stuff is one of their most marked up items. Polymeric Systems 36" Kneadatite ribbons sell for about $12-$15. GW cuts them up into tiny bits just a few inches long and sells them for $10 each. The lesson is not to buy 3rd party hobby supplies at GW if you have a convenient way to buy them elsewhere. The War Store is one good source accessible without leaving home. For $12.99 you can buy enough Green Stuff to last most hobbyists a few years.

See this link http://www.thewarstore.com/product18832.html

Any sources for that stuff in Europe? ESPECIALLY the Green Stuff? I've been looking on a source with affordable GS with affordable shipping to Austria for ages...

**redstripe**

BrookM wrote:They are inadvertently admitting that there are problems?

They are In-Advert-ly admitting that there are problems.

**BrassScorpion**

Any sources for that stuff in Europe? ESPECIALLY the Green Stuff? I've been looking on a source with affordable GS with affordable shipping to Austria for ages...

Polymeric Systems (makers of Green Stuff) have a website that shows where to buy their products. If they don't show any European vendors you might want to write to them and ask about it. They'd likely be happy to help. http://www.polymericsystems.com/

Contact Polymeric Systems

Polymeric Systems, Inc.
47 Park Avenue
P. O. Box 522
Elverson , PA 19520

Tel: (610) 286-2500
Toll-free in the U.S.
800-CAULK IT (800-228-5548)
888-EPOXY FIX (888-376-9934)
Fax: (610) 286-2510
Email: sales@polymericsystems.com

The PSI Customer Service team is available to assist you Monday through Friday from 8:00 am to 5:00 pm Eastern Standard Time.

In the EU contact:

Whitford Plastics Ltd.
10, Christleton Court , Manor Park
Runcorn, Cheshire WA7 1 ST UK

Tel: +44(0) 1928 571000
Fax: +44(0) 1928 571010
Email: salesuk@whitfordww.com

Squadron also has a website where you might be able to learn more or inquire about where to buy their products. http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=SQ9050

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**Kanluwen**

ph34r wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:I can't believe I forgot the Cairn Wraith and Tomb Banshee kits. That one I'm still kind of surprised by, since they basically made them "hero" models for what is in fact a unit entry.

It's kind of like fielding a unit of Cold One Knights made up entirely of Malus Darkblades.
Banshees used to be single rare choices and Wraiths used to be single characters. I for one am super happy they put back in a way to field them outside of a silly unit.

That's not what I was actually referring to.

I was referring to the way the models were done, hence "fielding a unit of Cold One Knights made up entirely of Malus Darkblades".
With a little bit of work, sure, you can make them look individual (I've actually figured out a good way to do that, namely different shades on the exposed bone, a little snip here and there for the scythe hands, etc) but it clearly was intended more for the minor Hero aspect.

**Scottywan82**

They at least gave a nod to them being a unit. the Wraith has 3 head options.

**Kroothawk**

BrookM wrote:
Flashman wrote:Disappointed that the trend for releasing those single miniature plastic blisters has stopped so quickly (unless you're holding something back Brook?).

Nope, that's all for October, honest.

You can't tell from just reading the WD. Finecast new releases are so secret that they are not even mentioned in WD but hidden in monthly price list updates for the stores. Part of the new marketing by GW, don't ask.

That said, next month they stop releasing any miniatures, so lets hope this trend will not continue in November

**StraightSilver**

I am in the UK and get my kneadatite direct from Sylmasta, it's much cheaper than most places and would assume they would ship to Austria:

http://www.sylmasta.com/acatalog/Creative_Kneadatite_Putties.html

They also do brown stuff etc too.

**BrookM**

Kroothawk wrote:
BrookM wrote:
Flashman wrote:Disappointed that the trend for releasing those single miniature plastic blisters has stopped so quickly (unless you're holding something back Brook?).

Nope, that's all for October, honest.

You can't tell from just reading the WD. Finecast new releases are so secret that they are not even mentioned in WD but hidden in monthly price list updates for the stores. Part of the new marketing by GW, don't ask.

That said, next month they stop releasing any miniatures, so lets hope this trend will not continue in November

Oh those poor, poor Necron players, they've been had again.

**Mr Mystery**

StraightSilver wrote:
They also do brown stuff etc too.

Yik yik yik!

**Panic**

yeah,
The liquid GS looks interesting.

What's the coming soon back page thingy?

Panic...

**BrookM**

For the third time, no coming soon / back page preview.

**scarletsquig**

I like the sound of liquid green stuff, think I'll buy a pot.

"Water-soluble" and "brush-on" are the main selling points for me, and the price isn't in the realm of fruitloop GW candyland pricing unlike the other tools they are releasing. 8 quid for a toothbrush, lol.

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

Brook!! hey Brook!!

What's on the back page of WD this month?
heheheheeheheh

OMG I'm turning into an annoying citrus fruit AAAARGH!

**Azazelx**

I rang my local GW to ask if/when the new WD was out - for some reason I was thinking it was this weekend, despite browsing this thread. Next weekend, apparently. I also asked them if they had prices or knew when the Liquid Greenstuff or Resin working tools would be in.

He had no idea what I was talking about (or was acting like it, in case I was someone from corporate). He couldn't even tell me if they would be getting any new release products in at the same time as the WD, because sometimes they do and sometimes they don't...

**BrookM**

I'm half-tempted to go and visit GW Amsterdam with my copy and ask them to demo the new tools.

**mikhaila**

I've been told I can't put out WD until Saturday, because all the stuff on Dreadfleet is such a secret. The disinformation rules are getting pretty stupid and silly. The issue is out in parts of the world, just let people buy it. It can't hurt sales on things, can it? So confused.

**BrookM**

I told a customer that the issue was extra pirate themed because of the breach in embargo.

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

mikhaila wrote:I've been told I can't put out WD until Saturday, because all the stuff on Dreadfleet is such a secret. The disinformation rules are getting pretty stupid and silly. The issue is out in parts of the world, just let people buy it. It can't hurt sales on things, can it? So confused.

Have I dreamt seeing Phil kelly on a GW released video talking about Dread Fleet a week or two back?
How is it a secret now?
What are GW playing at?

Amused, bemused and confused, why do I even care anymore?

Today's programme has been brought to you by the letters W, T and F

**chainsword135**

Leave it up to GW to make you buy more things to fix their already expensive finecast models..

**-Loki-**

chainsword135 wrote:Leave it up to GW to make you buy more things to fix their already expensive finecast models..

Leave it to the hate brigade to ignore the fact that these are just GW branded versions of products that already exist.

**djphranq**

3rd party for me please... although the GW clippers I've had since '08 are still doing the job quite nicely.

**-Loki-**

GW's clippers are the only tool I've bought from them and not been disappointed in some way. I also bought a cheap pair of small pipe clippers, which are basically the same thing, but GW's clippers have just the right angle on them.

**BrassScorpion**

These are the flush cutters GW used to sell a long time ago. You can still buy them at major craft stores in the US like Michaels for about $9, cheaper if you get one of their common store discount coupons. And the blades are steel so they are much more durable than the current GW "plastic cutters" which are made from a cheaper, less resilient metal. I've seen the blades on the GW plastic cutters break when people cut something a little too thick, like the thicker pieces of sprue.

http://www.amazon.com/Bead-Cord-Nippers-5-Inches/dp/B0058ED5KA

**-Loki-**

BrassScorpion wrote:These are the flush cutters GW used to sell a long time ago. You can still buy them at major craft stores in the US like Michaels for about $9, cheaper if you get one of their common store discount coupons. And the blades are steel so they are much more durable than the current GW "plastic cutters" which are made from a cheaper, less resilient metal. I've seen the blades on the GW plastic cutters break when people cut something a little too thick, like the thicker pieces of sprue.

... huh? I've been using mine lately for clipping the rounded parts off the ends of Carnifex arms, which are thicker than sprue. Takes a good 2 handed squeeze, and I haven't had the thing break yet.

**happygolucky**

Can you at least tell us whats for next month please (necrons please...)

**oni**

mikhaila wrote:I've been told I can't put out WD until Saturday, because all the stuff on Dreadfleet is such a secret. The disinformation rules are getting pretty stupid and silly. The issue is out in parts of the world, just let people buy it. It can't hurt sales on things, can it? So confused.

You actually listen to their BS about not putting WD on the shelf? Seems a little silly to me. Are they going to send out the Fail Police and slap your wrist for making some coin before they want you to?

I know of another company that has practices like this. They literally control and dictates how their sales reps operate their companies. Let's hope it doesn't come to GW telling store owners what they can and cannot do with their own businesses just because GW product is on the shelf.

Put it out... GW be damned!

**The Decapitator**

happygolucky wrote:Can you at least tell us whats for next month please (necrons please...)

Errm.....BrookeM's gonna be pissed!

Well I can *tell* you that Necrons are going to be next month, as you asked so nicely.

However that doesn't mean that it's true!

**aka_mythos**

Balance wrote:They are In-Advert-ly admitting that there are problems.

Haha...

I think some people are over blowing this. Selling these tools imply no more a problem than selling hobby knives to deal with the downsides of flash on plastic and metal models, implies those are problematic. Even if Finecast has gap and airbubble issues in addition to flash, this is just a different aspect of a different product.

**warboss**

oni wrote:
mikhaila wrote:I've been told I can't put out WD until Saturday, because all the stuff on Dreadfleet is such a secret. The disinformation rules are getting pretty stupid and silly. The issue is out in parts of the world, just let people buy it. It can't hurt sales on things, can it? So confused.

You actually listen to their BS about not putting WD on the shelf? Seems a little silly to me. Are they going to send out the Fail Police and slap your wrist for making some coin before they want you to?

Mikhalia has been pretty open about how much prize support and store support (like store fixings and shelves) he gets from GW. Why would he bite the hand that feeds him and risk lessening that relationship just so some local fanboy who probably buys half his stuff online can get the WD a bit early? I agree that GW's policies and reasoning are utterly stupid but you're aiming the barrel at the wrong target.

**Vampirate of Sartosa**

LGS looks cool, but as I have no interest in any of the currently avaliable Finecast models, I can't really see the point. Can you use it to make blood drops, I wonder?