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I was not aware of this, very interesting, cheers.

Predator X

Jaws, pffff.

Cat farts are the worst odor in the world. If your cat is sitting on your lap and it suddenly makes a "Mmmmmm" sound of immense satisfaction, you're in for a toxic cloud of cat stink. Pray it doesn't happen when you're eating, or about to get frisky with your significant other. I love my cats, but they're evil.

I was simply pointing out that Mandela is a terrorist, who belongs in prison for what he has done. If I did half of the things he had, I'd be in prison for life... Not the leader of a nation who is respected by most people.

DeadlySquirrel wrote:I was simply pointing out that Mandela is a terrorist, who belongs in prison for what he has done. If I did half of the things he had, I'd be in prison for life... Not the leader of a nation who is respected by most people.

He used violence as a means to an end, i.e. the end of apartheid. That's usually regarded as a "good" thing.

Presumably bin Laden would have considered removing American occupiers from the Middle East to be a 'good thing'..

Was 9/11 a good thing? That was using violence as a means to an end. Was Saddam's invasion of Kuwait to prevent slant drilling into his oil and the subsequent war a good thing? That was a means to an end. Were the 7/7 bombings a good thing? What about the IRA's bombings? Or other acts of terrorism?

Albatross wrote:Presumably bin Laden would have considered removing American occupiers from the Middle East to be a 'good thing'..

Of course, at the time of 9/11 we weren't an occupier. Ironical...

Frazzled wrote:

Albatross wrote:Presumably bin Laden would have considered removing American occupiers from the Middle East to be a 'good thing'..

Of course, at the time of 9/11 we weren't an occupier. Ironical...

... And if you believe the story they tell about 9/11, they were mostly from Saudi Arabia. We didn't declare war on them...

Frazzled wrote:Of course, at the time of 9/11 we weren't an occupier. Ironical...

We've always been an occupier. Like when the Saudi's let us have military bases in their country? Total occupation.

dogma wrote:

biccat wrote:
It's like a mass conspiracy to defame the poor, misunderstood hero of uh...violent black separatism.

Indeed, and it generally starts by implying that the goals of black nationalism would be accomplished by acts of violence.

I don't know why you would believe that black nationalism requiers violence. While you might infer that from my comment, I in no way implied it.

Violent black separatism (Malcolm X) is different from black separatism (Nation of Islam pre-Crazy Louie).

DeadlySquirrel wrote:I was simply pointing out that Mandela is a terrorist, who belongs in prison for what he has done. If I did half of the things he had, I'd be in prison for life... Not the leader of a nation who is respected by most people.

what did he do?

biccat wrote:
I don't know why you would believe that black nationalism requiers violence. While you might infer that from my comment, I in no way implied it.

Violent black separatism (Malcolm X) is different from black separatism (Nation of Islam pre-Crazy Louie).

You certainly did, given that you used black separatism as a substitution for black nationalism, and further added the "violent" adjective despite the words as spoken; which entailed only defensive violence. I mean, you continue to use "separatism" instead of "nationalism". Good show, good show.

That's alright though, I'm used to you pretending to the "essence" of what was said by others, rather than dealing with what was said.

But, to be fair, Malcolm X was not laudable, though his position was understandable. Calling him a terrorist is lazy, and moronic; as is calling him a hero or some such. He was a complicated dude in a complicated situation, and is often misrepresented by both ends of that particular political issue.

Blackhoof wrote:

DeadlySquirrel wrote:I was simply pointing out that Mandela is a terrorist, who belongs in prison for what he has done. If I did half of the things he had, I'd be in prison for life... Not the leader of a nation who is respected by most people.

what did he do?

In a nutshell he was the leader both publically and privately of a terrorist organization responsible for planning and executing bombings, Assasinations and massacres in South Africa with the goal of ending apartheid.

dogma wrote:...and further added the "violent" adjective despite the words as spoken; which entailed only defensive violence. I mean, you continue to use "separatism" instead of "nationalism".

Malcolm X talked about revolution - which according to the quote I provided necessarily includes violence - to separate the black community from the white community.

If he had suggested buying land somewhere in the Rocky Mountains and leading his followers there, and then defending them against violent mobs of opponents (someone did this in the mid- 19th century IIRC), then you'd have a case for "black nationalism."

dogma wrote:That's alright though, I'm used to you pretending to the "essence" of what was said by others, rather than dealing with what was said.

If you're going to ignore what he said, that's great. Like I said, you're always entitled to your opinion, even when that opinion is based on a objectively false facts.

biccat wrote:
Malcolm X talked about revolution - which according to the quote I provided necessarily includes violence - to separate the black community from the white community.

If he had suggested buying land somewhere in the Rocky Mountains and leading his followers there, and then defending them against violent mobs of opponents (someone did this in the mid- 19th century IIRC), then you'd have a case for "black nationalism."

And that sense of revolution was couched in being allowed to return to Africa, and the violence was specified as being in defense of this cause.

Shockingly, "revolution" doesn't simply mean "replace the government".

Is the Tea Party attempting to overthrow the federal government?

biccat wrote:
If you're going to ignore what he said, that's great. Like I said, you're always entitled to your opinion, even when that opinion is based on a objectively false facts.

What did he say, as presented here, that I'm ignoring?

You seem to be, as usual, running with your interpretation and pretending that everything else is ignorance.

Its lame, and made all the more lame by your nominal criticism of others for doing the same.

I know you'll attempt to mirror this criticism, but I clearly have a tendency to point out possible alternatives, you do not.

AustonT wrote:

Blackhoof wrote:

DeadlySquirrel wrote:I was simply pointing out that Mandela is a terrorist, who belongs in prison for what he has done. If I did half of the things he had, I'd be in prison for life... Not the leader of a nation who is respected by most people.

what did he do?

In a nutshell he was the leader both publically and privately of a terrorist organization responsible for planning and executing bombings, Assasinations and massacres in South Africa with the goal of ending apartheid.

He also personally carried out a few bombings, the worst one was when he detonated a ruck sack bomb in a cafe filled with women and children... He was a hero alright...

DickBandit wrote: Stuff about the check engine light.

My check engine light on my Prius comes on when the timer from my last oil change triggers it.

That has nothing to do with emissions. It's a timer that turns it on past X miles.

DeadlySquirrel wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Albatross wrote:Presumably bin Laden would have considered removing American occupiers from the Middle East to be a 'good thing'..

Of course, at the time of 9/11 we weren't an occupier. Ironical...

... And if you believe the story they tell about 9/11, they were mostly from Saudi Arabia. We didn't declare war on them...

Napolean was from Corsica, we didn't invade them.
Etc etc.
There are so few people in Al Quieda it's impossible to figure out where "they" are really from.

Al-Qaeda's membership is irrelevant to us invading Afghanistan. Anyone arguing otherwise needs to get a grip. Bin Laden and much of Al-Qaeda's leadership are from Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt, but they were operating out of Afghanistan with the support of the Taliban (and Saudi Arabia pretty much kicked Bin Laden out of the country, and Al Zawahiri isn't exactly popular in Egypt).

kronk wrote:

DickBandit wrote: Stuff about the check engine light.

My check engine light on my Prius comes on when the timer from my last oil change triggers it.

That has nothing to do with emissions. It's a timer that turns it on past X miles.

That's a maintenance light. All Toyotas have them.

Maintenance Required lights are a new way for manufacturers to remind the driver that their vehicle is due for routine maintenance. By reminding the driver to do so, this can help extend the life of the vehicle because it is now being properly maintained. (If you follow the maintenance required light.)

No. Mine says check engine.

One ton of used mobile phones contains more gold than one ton of gold ore...

Son_Of _Deddog wrote:One ton of used mobile phones contains more gold than one ton of gold ore...

You realized that makes absolutely no logical sense. At all. Unless phones are now made of pure gold and even then, that's just comparing a ton of gold to another ton of gold.

Son_Of _Deddog wrote:One ton of used mobile phones contains more gold than one ton of gold ore...

one ton of feathers is lighter than one ton of bricks.

LordofHats wrote:

Son_Of _Deddog wrote:One ton of used mobile phones contains more gold than one ton of gold ore...

You realized that makes absolutely no logical sense. At all. Unless phones are now made of pure gold and even then, that's just comparing a ton of gold to another ton of gold.

I think he is referring to gold before it has been seperated from the minerals and earth around it.

This is gold ore:



This is solid gold:

Oh riiiiiiiight. I forgot ore includes a lot of crap, silly me XD

This is solid gold:

Spoiler:

I definetly lol'd.

Ahtman wrote:This is solid gold:

Spoiler:

Difficult to tell in black and white but surely that's gold lamé.

Apparently tea cosies kill more people each year than tigers do.

LordofHats wrote:

Karon wrote:It is a shame that the schools in the United States teach so much more about Martin Luther King than Malcolm X

Its probably because in the Civil Rights movement MLK is more important than Mal X Plus, MLK had an influence that extended beyond the US, while I don't think Malcom is well known beyond our borders.

That said, a lot of things are ascribed to Malcom X that, while nto necessarily false, are often over simplifications of his character and life that ignore the more complex reality of the man, but that could really be said for any historical figure who tends to only be known by name.

Malcolm X visited London on a number of occasions. Notably when the Tories used the slogan "If you want a [see forum posting rules] for a neigbour vote Labour" (please excuse the language it is a quote not a personal statement).


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AustonT wrote:

Blackhoof wrote:

DeadlySquirrel wrote:I was simply pointing out that Mandela is a terrorist, who belongs in prison for what he has done. If I did half of the things he had, I'd be in prison for life... Not the leader of a nation who is respected by most people.

what did he do?

In a nutshell he was the leader both publically and privately of a terrorist organization responsible for planning and executing bombings, Assasinations and massacres in South Africa with the goal of ending apartheid.

In his defense the apartheid system was effectively starving, demeaning and killing his people.


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DeadlySquirrel wrote:Was 9/11 a good thing? That was using violence as a means to an end. Was Saddam's invasion of Kuwait to prevent slant drilling into his oil and the subsequent war a good thing? That was a means to an end. Were the 7/7 bombings a good thing? What about the IRA's bombings? Or other acts of terrorism?

I have one case where the IRA bombings did some good: Manchester Arndale Center.


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Castiel wrote:Apparently tea cosies kill more people each year than tigers do.

That is what the Ninja Grans want you to think.

George Spiggott wrote:

Ahtman wrote:This is solid gold:

Spoiler:

Difficult to tell in black and white but surely that's gold lamé.

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my news is that bill gates and oprah are still rich