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master of ordinance wrote:Shoot The Bankers. And Parliment. Let The Royals Rule Again.

Nope. Never.
I'd rather have an incompetent parliament than a series of questionably bred individuals wielding absolute power simply by virtue of being born into the right family.
It worked as a system in the middle ages, when the common man wasn't educated in the slightest. Nowadays, it wouldn't.

biccat wrote:
No, Jimmy Carter is not an antisemite because of his position on Israel, just like David Duke is not a racist because of his position on affirmative action.

So you have clear evidence that Jimmy Carter is an antisemite that doesn't turn on his position with respect to Israel? Or is this part of the "too many Jews" noise?

I mean, sure, David Duke is a racist, and that causes him to take a particular position on affirmative action, among other things. But we only know David Duke is a racist because of those positions, we don't really know what caused him to be a racist.

dogma wrote:So you have clear evidence that Jimmy Carter is an antisemite that doesn't turn on his position with respect to Israel? Or is this part of the "too many Jews" noise?

Did you read the sub-headline on that link?

"Former president also rejected Christian historian because name sounded 'too Jewish'"

That doesn't sound anti-semetic to you?

You have the right to your own opinion, not your own facts.

Pat Robertson thinks god told him who is going to win the election. And he isnt telling anybody.

biccat wrote:
Did you read the sub-headline on that link?

"Former president also rejected Christian historian because name sounded 'too Jewish'"

That doesn't sound anti-semetic to you?

You have the right to your own opinion, not your own facts.

I reject it because I haven't seen the document, or any corroborating sources. Its very easy to fabricate, or misrepresent information. Here, I'll do it now:

President Bush called me on my cell phone, and said that cocaine is best enjoyed on the buttocks of a hooker.

Then, of course, we get into the whole question of politics. Is Carter antisemitic because the name sounds too Jewish, or is it a reflection of the electorate?

Then there's this part, which introduces further ambiguity:

“I got a phone call from our liaison at the White House saying this particular historian whose name sounded Jewish would not do. The liaison said he would not even take the time to present Carter with the possibility of including the historian on the board because he knew Carter would think the name sounded too Jewish. I explained the historian is Presbyterian, but the liaison said it wouldn’t matter to Carter.”

Id just like to say, weather Jimi Carter is antisemitic or not, I dont know. But I can say, he was a terrible president

Without devoting too much effort:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/19/AR2007011901541.html

It might also be his push to get Hamas legitimized and off the terrorist watch list, and his less than subtle insinuations that the Jews control the media.
He's generally got good intentions...he may still be anti Semitic.

KingCracker wrote:Id just like to say, weather Jimi Carter is antisemitic or not, I dont know. But I can say, he was a terrible president

Eh, he was middle of the road, sort of like Bush 1. Very good with policy, but bad with the political aspect of the office.

I'm not a fan of Presidential quality ratings but, broadly, there are a couple really bad Presidents (Garfield, Harrison, Pierce), and a couple really good Presidents (FDR, Reagan, Lincoln), but for the most part its all just average.


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AustonT wrote:Without devoting too much effort:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/19/AR2007011901541.html

It might also be his push to get Hamas legitimized and off the terrorist watch list, and his less than subtle insinuations that the Jews control the media.
He's generally got good intentions...he may still be anti Semitic.

I'm not necessarily denying the idea that Carter might be an antisemite, I just don't see enough evidence to convict him in that respect.

I'll also say that the article you linked falls into many of the convention "Israel isn't awesome = antisemite" traps.

Jackson. Jackson was a fantastic President. Really, the only thing he had against him IMO was he was for slavery. Chalk it up as a "It was how things were done back then" I dont care. But other then that, he is one of Americas greatest heroes

It's still newscorp don't ask for too much

KingCracker wrote:Jackson. Jackson was a fantastic President. Really, the only thing he had against him IMO was he was for slavery. Chalk it up as a "It was how things were done back then" I dont care. But other then that, he is one of Americas greatest heroes

Indian removal wasn't exactly a shining mark on his roster either.

I don't hate all Space Marines, just Grey Knights. And anybody who plays them. Especially if they enter doubles games alongside leafblower Guard, because that's the doucheyist combo in 40K.

AND DAVID ICKE IS RIGHT!!!!!!

Sonophos wrote:All I can see in the off topic forum atm is comic books, anime, star trek and other stuff of imagination; whilst these are great in thier own way I crave actual factual information and failing that some kind of practical debate.

Your mother was a hampster, and your father smelt of elderberries!

I'm glad I have no idea who this David Icke is.

As for controversial



What is M:TM?

KingCracker wrote:Id just like to say, weather Jimi Carter is antisemitic or not, I dont know. But I can say, he was a terrible president

I was only about 4 and in the UK when he was president and I can remember thinking he looked stoopid.


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MrDwhitey wrote:I'm glad I have no idea who this David Icke is.

As for controversial

Spoiler:

What is M:TM?

That is FUNNY.

dogma wrote:

KingCracker wrote:Jackson. Jackson was a fantastic President. Really, the only thing he had against him IMO was he was for slavery. Chalk it up as a "It was how things were done back then" I dont care. But other then that, he is one of Americas greatest heroes

Indian removal wasn't exactly a shining mark on his roster either.

Grasping at straws here man



























I kid I kid.

MrDwhitey wrote:I'm glad I have no idea who this David Icke is.

As for controversial

Spoiler:

What is M:TM?

Movie: The Movie...

Norway in opposition to popular belife acctuly sucks monkey balls to live, and we are a nation ruled by mediawhores

Trondheim wrote:Norway in opposition to popular belife acctuly sucks monkey balls to live, and we are a nation ruled by mediawhores

My God...

I'll give you something interesting and controversial: feth Davy Jones, Lynn Compton died this week and you'd have to dig to find it, some loser from a band no one has given a gak about for 30+ years croaks and it's on the headline of every media agency. Liberal media hates conservative judges (and WWII heroes). Also in the news the state of Wyoming votes down a bill to build an aircraft carrier.

I all fairness tho' I had to Google to find out who Lyn Compton is, recognised him when I did tho', but I knew Davy Jones right off the bat. Relative levels of fame I suppose.

Sad to hear of Wyoming's loss however I'd think there are certain unassailable logistical difficulties with building a large ship in Wyoming.

dogma wrote:Its sort of like how anyone who doesn't support Obama is a horrible, horrible racist.

Wait,I thought that anyone who didn't support the president was anti-American.

Or am I still thinking thoughts from five years ago?

Melissia wrote:

dogma wrote:Its sort of like how anyone who doesn't support Obama is a horrible, horrible racist.

Wait,I thought that anyone who didn't support the president was anti-American.

No, now you're racist if you don't support the President.

Keep up with the times Mel.

Melissia wrote:

dogma wrote:Its sort of like how anyone who doesn't support Obama is a horrible, horrible racist.

Wait,I thought that anyone who didn't support the president was anti-American.

Or am I still thinking thoughts from five years ago?

Now you're a racist anti-American that probably hates women and eats baby seals.

Baby seals are good eat'n

Hey, everybody. Here's some fun facts. The population of Thailand is sixty three million people. It is twice the size of Wyoming. It's chief exports are textiles, footwear and rice. Each year, approximately thirteen thousand people are killed in car accidents in Thailand.

Crocodile meat is actually quite tasty.

That's really all there is to say on the matter.

Kangaroo is, in my opinion, more delicious than beef.
However, there are no wild kangaroos in England, and thus no viable population to harvest their meat from.

girls wear makeup and perfume because they are ugly and they stink

at least this is what they think. It is a hard sociological question to debate, but isn't that what those products are designed to do, cover up?

You have reminded me of this: