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Eh, i've fired a vindicator into an assault marine squad, just to get rid of that power fist / potential melta bomb.

Smart man

what if it had missed? would you have fired more?

I don't know. Vindicators don't miss that often, since, they have a large template and a BS of 4.

I probably would've cried a bit. Then shot them next turn, since I have about 24" from the first shot to kill them.

What else could your vindicator have shot at? Did you have any other juicy targets? What if after missing it copped a weapon destroyed result?
Then what would you have pointed at the assault marines ? Depending on the army make up of course, but I can think of alot of units (read: Most) that would prefer 5 ass marines eat a vindicator shell instead of themselves

The thing is that for roughly the same price, you're bringing scout bikes with grenade launchers and a fist, which does roughly the same thing. Why is a throwaway fist on a scout bike squad not worth it while on an assault squad it is?

Also, one of the problems is that they have basically no shooting whatsoever. You either get into close combat, or you do nothing. This is rather limiting...

I don't have a codex nearby- how much is the scout bikers? Can we not give them the GL for a comparable price?
I'd rather the bikes if the price is around 125, unless i played in heavy terrain/cities of death/parking lots regularly.

A four man scout bike unit with 3 grenade launchers and a power fist is 145 points.

A teleport homer and one less bike (BS3 grenade launchers aren't that reliable) would make them 140 points.

Thank you but I believe I asked how much they were without the GL. The bit where I asked "Can we not give them the GL?".

Three bikes with a power fist and no grenade launchers are 95 points.

If I were relying on deep striking terminators I would add a teleport homer though.

Ailaros wrote:The thing is that for roughly the same price, you're bringing scout bikes with grenade launchers and a fist, which does roughly the same thing. Why is a throwaway fist on a scout bike squad not worth it while on an assault squad it is?

Fists on scout bike squads are extra worth it, since scout bikers get a guaranteed turn 1 charge if you go first and the enemy deploys on table.