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A Town Called Malus wrote:
Yes but Ahtman, judging from your responses here and from the beginning of the MLP thread, you seem to consider the entire subject of furries and My Little Pony to be a troll subject, designed entirely to annoy other people.
So obviously us bronies have been trolling each other for 145 pages in our thread. That's pretty impressive guys!
Long as you're here though, explain to us the mind of a brony. What makes a brony tick? In real life do you have brony backpacks and lunchboxes? Decoder rings? What about brony shoes? Do you make them special issue, or do you have feet small enough to fit into the ones at the store?
Seriously though, in what other venues do you advertise that you enjoy watching MLP?
Automatically Appended Next Post: For the record, I have decided that you're not doing it intentionally to annoy other people.
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A Town Called Malus wrote: Yes but Ahtman, judging from your responses here and from the beginning of the MLP thread, you seem to consider the entire subject of furries and My Little Pony to be a troll subject, designed entirely to annoy other people.
So obviously us bronies have been trolling each other for 145 pages in our thread. That's pretty impressive guys!
Long as you're here though, explain to us the mind of a brony. What makes a brony tick? In real life do you have brony backpacks and lunchboxes? Decoder rings? What about brony shoes? Do you make them special issue, or do you have feet small enough to fit into the ones at the store?
Seriously though, in what other venues do you advertise that you enjoy watching MLP?
Me personally? Not much. I have one t-shirt (http://www.welovefine.com/984-zeppony.html) which I bought because it combined two things I like, MLP and Led Zeppelin. If someone asks about it, then I tell them. I don't force it onto others.
Some of the others from our thread have pony stickers on their army cases and laptops or pony keyrings hanging from cases and bags. Just little things which will identify yourself to other members of the fandom without being too "in your face".
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
daedalus wrote:For the record, I have decided that you're not doing it intentionally to annoy other people.
I have come to that conclusion as well, which is why A Town Called Malus had to reach back a year to the beginning of (what would become) the MLP containment thread. Apparently not bringing the subject up for almost 11 months and not bothering anyone about it makes you a terribly spiteful person.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
daedalus wrote:For the record, I have decided that you're not doing it intentionally to annoy other people.
I have come to that conclusion as well, which is why A Town Called Malus had to reach back a year to the beginning of (what would become) the MLP containment thread. Apparently not bringing the subject up for almost 11 months and not bothering anyone about it makes you a terribly spiteful person.
Well, reading some of your posts in this thread it seemed your opinion hadn't changed. If that isn't the case then I apologise.
The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
A Town Called Malus wrote:
Yes but Ahtman, judging from your responses here and from the beginning of the MLP thread, you seem to consider the entire subject of furries and My Little Pony to be a troll subject, designed entirely to annoy other people.
So obviously us bronies have been trolling each other for 145 pages in our thread. That's pretty impressive guys!
Long as you're here though, explain to us the mind of a brony. What makes a brony tick? In real life do you have brony backpacks and lunchboxes? Decoder rings? What about brony shoes? Do you make them special issue, or do you have feet small enough to fit into the ones at the store?
Seriously though, in what other venues do you advertise that you enjoy watching MLP?
Automatically Appended Next Post: For the record, I have decided that you're not doing it intentionally to annoy other people.
I've got one of the McD ponies hanging from my rear view, and another from each of my Warmachine bags. My phone lock screen is nearly always pony artwork as well. I also frequent the MLP thread on the PP forums.
I'll also admit to trolling some local forums with pony stuff when the locals found out about the pony/brony thing and that I and a few others at the FLGS were into it, but if I wasn't trolling them with the ponies I'd have been trolling them with something else. I'm a horrible admin sometimes...
Guys can we tone it down a little? You're disturbing the wieners!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Howard A Treesong wrote:We aren't talking about preventing people upsetting furries by saying "I think it's silly" when looking at their army. But a lot of criticism I've seen isn't about the modelling, it's quite personal, aggressive and directed at claims about sexual deviance and the like.
This is, in a nutshell, what went wrong with the locked thread mentioned at the start. People were completely overlooking the topic actually under discussion on the assumption that anyone who likes furries (as in anthropomorphised animals) must clearly be a Furry (someone who dresses up as an animal, probably for sexual gratification).
The fact that people seemed so completely incapable of separating the two, even when the difference was explained several times, is disappointing and not a little scary. It's mob mentality at its worst. Fear what is different... whether you actually understand it or not. Or this, for example:
Redbeard wrote:
Howard A Treesong wrote:
Why do people assume that things relating to furries means sex-chat?
Because some of it does, and I've got absolutely no interest in learning about the inner workings of furry culture, certainly not enough to tell the difference between the furries that just want to wear ears&tails and the furries who want to wear ears&tails while having sex. If I wanted to do that, I'd be on a furry discussion board, not a wargaming discussion board.
...which seems to translate to: I don't actually know what it's all about, I don't want to know what it's all about, but I'm going to assume that it's dirty and wrong and something that shouldn't be on my forum.
And that doesn't seem just a teensy bit irrational to anyone?
2012/06/06 01:53:29
Subject: Re:Furry-hate and other 'issues' on Dakka
insaniak wrote:The fact that people seemed so completely incapable of separating the two, even when the difference was explained several times, is disappointing and not a little scary. It's mob mentality at its worst. Fear what is different... whether you actually understand it or not.
I won't defend Redbeard's comments there as I do not think they are representative of the real situation. It seems to me that the real "battle" is a pitched battle between one group of adult males who have decided to be public promoters of MLP and another group of adult males who have decided to be their nemesis. What is important to realize is that the second group didn't develop after the first but simultaneously with it. The MLP divide is just another in the long line of conflicts the *chan generation has engaged in. There's the circumcised/uncircumcised one, for instance, and the one about people who post images of Boxxy everywhere against the people who hated that. This "brony" deal is really no different than the Boxxy thing. It's not really about people liking something different from you. People like all sorts of things. I reckon there are a fair few people on Dakka that really like the Office for example. So why don't we have to have an "Office fan containment thread" like the "brony" one? And why haven't there been any Dwight Schrute Chaos Lord conversions? It's certainly not because people don't like the Office. It's because they don't try to colonize a website that has absolutely nothing to do with the Office. That is what the "brony"/"brony hater" crowd does (yes, they are really the same problem).
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insaniak wrote:The fact that people seemed so completely incapable of separating the two, even when the difference was explained several times, is disappointing and not a little scary. It's mob mentality at its worst. Fear what is different... whether you actually understand it or not.
I won't defend Redbeard's comments there as I do not think they are representative of the real situation. It seems to me that the real "battle" is a pitched battle between one group of adult males who have decided to be public promoters of MLP and another group of adult males who have decided to be their nemesis. What is important to realize is that the second group didn't develop after the first but simultaneously with it. The MLP divide is just another in the long line of conflicts the *chan generation has engaged in. There's the circumcised/uncircumcised one, for instance, and the one about people who post images of Boxxy everywhere against the people who hated that. This "brony" deal is really no different than the Boxxy thing. It's not really about people liking something different from you. People like all sorts of things. I reckon there are a fair few people on Dakka that really like the Office for example. So why don't we have to have an "Office fan containment thread" like the "brony" one? And why haven't there been any Dwight Schrute Chaos Lord conversions? It's certainly not because people don't like the Office. It's because they don't try to colonize a website that has absolutely nothing to do with the Office. That is what the "brony"/"brony hater" crowd does (yes, they are really the same problem).
I haven't seen much evidence of bronies and furries trying to colonize this site--only a few conversion threads and the OT thing. But I apparently missed this invasion everyone keeps referencing from a year ago.
I'm both selfish and rational. I'm scheming, secretive and manipulative; I use knowledge as a tool for personal gain, and in turn obtaining more knowledge. At best, I am mysterious and stealthy; at worst, I am distrustful and opportunistic.
I wasn't actually aware bronies existed until last month. Furries were something I wasn't aware of until late last year. Strangely, both of these discoveries were met with a "Huh, how about that" before resuming what I was doing, rather than a zealous quest to defend or destroy them.
In short, it's not an issue for me (i.e. What Melissia said on pg. 1).
deathholydeath wrote:I haven't seen much evidence of bronies and furries trying to colonize this site--only a few conversion threads and the OT thing. But I apparently missed this invasion everyone keeps referencing from a year ago.
Yes, we decided to contain it fairly quickly and, with the users cooperation, we are able to do so fairly quickly. It's no coincidence that this thread is about a P&M thread, the only place we haven't enforced containment.
In any case, if anyone wants to continue to discuss this please do so in the MLP thread.