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 Samus_aran115 wrote:
Wish someone told me all that in high school. Well, I'm sure someone did, but the issue was never asking them out, it was finding single women that I thought were worth dating. There was never any shortage of girls who had boyfriends in other schools, or girls who were generally locked into their niches so far that it would have been socially unsound to date me.

In retrospect, I'm quite happy with being a relatively lonely, shut-in person. Nothing to do about it now. I might as well embrace it.

I completely agree, especially with the bold.
seriously, where i live there just isn't anyone worth going for. They're either taken, have a great personality but are not attractive, or attractive but about as nice as Ghazzy with a hangover.

 whembly wrote:
Not sure if I follow...?

How would my life choices would have any possible impact to your life?

Because we live in a society.

 Howard A Treesong wrote:

 Poppabear wrote:

Chicks only friend zone guys that they think will be bad in bed or are small down stairs.

No, that's not it. That's trying to blame the girl, making her appear shallow or superficial. When friend zoning happens, it's because the man hasn't been assertive enough to make their feelings clear. Girls want someone who really wants them back, not something half hearted or casual, they want to feel like they are your first choice, but if you never make that clear its your own fault.

While agree with this a certain extent I have shown interest in girls I can hold many conversations with them, invite them out to places, pulled moves, etc but they just don't seem that interested. When I put my arm around them I can see a look of discomfort in there face and posture or when I

ask them out they often say they're busy, If I put any more effort showing that I want them I might just come across as obsessive or controlling which is also a huge turnoff.

 Melissia wrote:

 whembly wrote:
Not sure if I follow...?

How would my life choices would have any possible impact to your life?

Because we live in a society.

Still don't follow...

Are you (or Dogma) advocating limits to # of childrens?

 liquidjoshi wrote:

 Samus_aran115 wrote:
Wish someone told me all that in high school. Well, I'm sure someone did, but the issue was never asking them out, it was finding single women that I thought were worth dating. There was never any shortage of girls who had boyfriends in other schools, or girls who were generally locked into their niches so far that it would have been socially unsound to date me.

In retrospect, I'm quite happy with being a relatively lonely, shut-in person. Nothing to do about it now. I might as well embrace it.

I completely agree, especially with the bold.
seriously, where i live there just isn't anyone worth going for. They're either taken, have a great personality but are not attractive, or attractive but about as nice as Ghazzy with a hangover.

Are you sure that you're a great catch?

gorgon wrote:

 liquidjoshi wrote:

 Samus_aran115 wrote:
Wish someone told me all that in high school. Well, I'm sure someone did, but the issue was never asking them out, it was finding single women that I thought were worth dating. There was never any shortage of girls who had boyfriends in other schools, or girls who were generally locked into their niches so far that it would have been socially unsound to date me.

In retrospect, I'm quite happy with being a relatively lonely, shut-in person. Nothing to do about it now. I might as well embrace it.

I completely agree, especially with the bold.
seriously, where i live there just isn't anyone worth going for. They're either taken, have a great personality but are not attractive, or attractive but about as nice as Ghazzy with a hangover.

Are you sure that you're a great catch?

Damn straight. Can't keep them away

In all seriousness, I'm just not interested in the majority around here, and those that I would be, well, see above.

gorgon wrote:

 liquidjoshi wrote:

 Samus_aran115 wrote:
Wish someone told me all that in high school. Well, I'm sure someone did, but the issue was never asking them out, it was finding single women that I thought were worth dating. There was never any shortage of girls who had boyfriends in other schools, or girls who were generally locked into their niches so far that it would have been socially unsound to date me.

In retrospect, I'm quite happy with being a relatively lonely, shut-in person. Nothing to do about it now. I might as well embrace it.

I completely agree, especially with the bold.
seriously, where i live there just isn't anyone worth going for. They're either taken, have a great personality but are not attractive, or attractive but about as nice as Ghazzy with a hangover.

Are you sure that you're a great catch?

Honestly my only standard is "Is she hot?" I mean if our personalities don't work well, money is too much of a problem, my social ineptitude is too much of a turnoff, etc we'll break up some time anyways.

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
Men and women don't commonly have very close platonic relationships...

That's only been my experience with regard to situations in which once party cannot overcome romantic desires that aren't reciprocated. Basically, if no attraction exists or the person who is interested can get over themselves friendship isn't a real problem.

 Cheesecat wrote:

gorgon wrote:

 liquidjoshi wrote:

 Samus_aran115 wrote:
Wish someone told me all that in high school. Well, I'm sure someone did, but the issue was never asking them out, it was finding single women that I thought were worth dating. There was never any shortage of girls who had boyfriends in other schools, or girls who were generally locked into their niches so far that it would have been socially unsound to date me.

In retrospect, I'm quite happy with being a relatively lonely, shut-in person. Nothing to do about it now. I might as well embrace it.

I completely agree, especially with the bold.
seriously, where i live there just isn't anyone worth going for. They're either taken, have a great personality but are not attractive, or attractive but about as nice as Ghazzy with a hangover.

Are you sure that you're a great catch?

Honestly my only standard is "Is she hot?" I mean if our personalities don't work well, money is too much of a problem, my social ineptitude is too much of a turnoff, etc we'll break up some time anyways.

Isn't that instinctive though? Let's be honest, none of us would date someone we didn't find attractive.

haha, just saw this, seems topical...

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 Vulcan wrote:
On the subject of relationships, especially teen relationships...

(MAJOR SNIPPAGE TO AVOID MASSIVE REDUNDANT POST

I just wish someone had told ME this back when I was in high school...

Its not that I actively tried to skip those moments, its that, When your the guy girls come up too and joke to your about their friend wanting to date you while the friend is pushing and yelling at them about it. Its kinda hard to not think no one wants to be with you.

Been there, done that. I was the scrawny geek in high school too.

I found out a couple years later a friend of mine had had a desparate crush on me the whole time... and was too terrified to ask me out. Little did she realize I felt the same... and was just as terrified. Once we both figured it out, we had a really fun relationship through our college years. Eventually we parted - she had found a job well out of state, and I really didn't have any good prospects of my own, and while we both had had fun, we both had realized it wasn't really meant to last.

But have you considered flipping the situation on it's head? Look at the friend being pushed at you and say "Let's do one date just to make her happy, then I can tell her that you just weren't my type." If she goes though with the date she'll go all-out to prove she IS your type in spite of herself - girls are really competative that way. And who knows, maybe once she gives it that much effort, she might just discover that you are HER type after all.

Besides, even just getting shot down teaches you how to handle rejection - trust me, in ten years you'll be dealing with rejection from far more important sources (say, prospective employers) than a schoolgirl. Being able to handle rejection gracefully is worthwhile on its own. Besides, One 'yes' goes a long way toward making ten thousand 'no's easier to bear.


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 liquidjoshi wrote:

I completely agree, especially with the bold.
seriously, where i live there just isn't anyone worth going for. They're either taken, have a great personality but are not attractive, or attractive but about as nice as Ghazzy with a hangover.

Then you're a fool. You've completely discounted the very ones you SHOULD be asking out - the ones with great personality. Even a bombshell will eventually droop and wrinkle with age. But a great personality only shines brighter as the years pass.

Trust me on this one.

Vulcan wrote:Then you're a fool. You've completely discounted the very ones you SHOULD be asking out - the ones with great personality. Even a bombshell will eventually droop and wrinkle with age. But a great personality only shines brighter as the years pass.

Trust me on this one.

I wouldn't trust him; it's bad advice.

And I'm not gonna give you advice, because it'll also be bad advice. I'll only say this:

If you're not attracted to someone, then you're not attracted to someone. That's it.

Suit yourself.

From my experience, girls with a great personality wind up being a lot more fun to spend time with than hot girls... who know they're hot.

 whembly wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 whembly wrote:
Not sure if I follow...?

How would my life choices would have any possible impact to your life?

Because we live in a society.

Still don't follow...

Are you (or Dogma) advocating limits to # of childrens?

I'm not advocating anything. I'm merely pointing out that we live in a society and child-rearing effects society just as society effects child-rearing.

 Melissia wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 whembly wrote:
Not sure if I follow...?

How would my life choices would have any possible impact to your life?

Because we live in a society.

Still don't follow...

Are you (or Dogma) advocating limits to # of childrens?

I'm not advocating anything. I'm merely pointing out that we live in a society and child-rearing effects society just as society effects child-rearing.

Ah... okay. That's what I wasn't arguing about.

 Vulcan wrote:
Suit yourself.

From my experience, girls with a great personality wind up being a lot more fun to spend time with than hot girls... who know they're hot.

In my experience, "hot" and "great personality" are not mutually exclusive. Why settle for just one of them.

 azazel the cat wrote:

If you're not attracted to someone, then you're not attracted to someone. That's it.

Damn straight.

 whembly wrote:

Are you (or Dogma) advocating limits to # of childrens?

No, I'm simply claiming that what you choose to do in your life impacts mine. While its true that you have a personal life, what we write off as "personal" is basically a matter of social consensus

 Vulcan wrote:
Suit yourself.

From my experience, girls with a great personality wind up being a lot more fun to spend time with than hot girls... who know they're hot.

In my experience most people don't consider what its like to be a particularly attractive person (women especially). Having people come on to you constantly is probably very annoying and often means your appearance is overemphasized relative to the rest of your persona.

 Fafnir wrote:

 azazel the cat wrote:

If you're not attracted to someone, then you're not attracted to someone. That's it.

Damn straight.

This is the first time I've agreed with Azazel in some time.

Of course, he's wrong.

Hence the term "beer goggles."

Yeah, but that leads to bad things, and should be avoided with the proper application of wingmen...

 azazel the cat wrote:

Vulcan wrote:Then you're a fool. You've completely discounted the very ones you SHOULD be asking out - the ones with great personality. Even a bombshell will eventually droop and wrinkle with age. But a great personality only shines brighter as the years pass.

Trust me on this one.

I wouldn't trust him; it's bad advice.

And I'm not gonna give you advice, because it'll also be bad advice. I'll only say this:

If you're not attracted to someone, then you're not attracted to someone. That's it.

Alone also means alone.

gorgon wrote:

 azazel the cat wrote:

Vulcan wrote:Then you're a fool. You've completely discounted the very ones you SHOULD be asking out - the ones with great personality. Even a bombshell will eventually droop and wrinkle with age. But a great personality only shines brighter as the years pass.

Trust me on this one.

I wouldn't trust him; it's bad advice.

And I'm not gonna give you advice, because it'll also be bad advice. I'll only say this:

If you're not attracted to someone, then you're not attracted to someone. That's it.

Alone also means alone.

So you would argue that it's better to be with someone you're not attracted to, than to be with no one at all?

 Fafnir wrote:

So you would argue that it's better to be with someone you're not attracted to, than to be with no one at all?

I suspect he's saying that whether or not you're attracted to someone immediately has less bearing on whether or not you'll be attracted to someone later on than people might think.

This works both ways, of course.

gorgon wrote:Alone also means alone.

Desperation is not a good guide for making decisions.

Brains and personality are the more important quality to seek in a mate. Looks can be improved. You can't fix stupid.

 azazel the cat wrote:

gorgon wrote:Alone also means alone.

Desperation is not a good guide for making decisions.

It tends to make more interesting stories than when someone rationalizes their lack of a social life.

I read this entire thread. This is the tenth of so thread hotsauceman has made about how horrifically depressed and terrible he feels about some aspect of his life. I do not care that you're gay. I really do not care that you are obsessed with My Little Pony. I do not care that you don't like your body, you don't want to have kids, you think there is something wrong with you, that you have "stress and anger", that you can't handle actual life.

This is a Wargaming forum, this is not your place to whine and cry to internet strangers. I would laugh at you if I ever actually met you in person. The same with Stelek. I could not take the kid seriously when I actually met him. Did I feel sad for him? Yes. I genuinely wished he would fix his own life. Will he? No.

Will you? No.

Please stop yourself from making threads such as these again.

Or, you know, you could choose not to read them instead of demanding that someone stop posting.

Just sayin'

 Avatar 720 wrote:
Or, you know, you could choose not to read them instead of demanding that someone stop posting.

Just sayin'

You're a funny kid

Just sayin'