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 fire4effekt wrote:
How to get rid of a body: Coastal Edition.
I live near the ocean, a great place for storing unwanteds. Now how to get the unwanteds into the ocean. I could use a boat, but alas Gps can probably track where you are.

Just use an old boat. Nice thing about Lake Erie is it's cloudy so often, it makes it harder to get good sat images.

BaronIveagh wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
and that's why you have a few dozen gallons of Fuel (Petrol,Gasoline whatever you want to call it) on hand to do the cleanup for you.

Setting something on fire is the worst thing you can do. If the police do come sniffing around, you might as well hang out a neon sign 'CSI - examine *this* closely'. And it's best to assume that the fire won't get everything, particularly since gas doesn't burn anywhere near hot enough to entirely obliterate human remains. You'd need something like white phosphorus or magnesium powder.

Thermite will do the trick. Very easy to make a home, too. Just oxidized iron, aluminum (no I won't post the mixing ratio) and a strip of magnesium or tungsten to ignite it. But you're still better of using the first method I posted, as it is as absolute as you can really get with domestic resources and won't draw attention the way an aluminothermic reaction will.

Cheesecat wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:

Honestly it doesn't matter if they know what the body is what matters for the murder is they can't identify who killed the person, just because you recognize the body doesn't mean you know what caused it's death.

When was the last time the people disposing of the body had absolutely no connection to the person that did the deed?

Well, as long as the murderer doesn't get caught disposing the body and they can't find his/her DNA on the body then nobody has enough evidence to prove who did the murder.

Doesn't matter. You're just going to be an accessory after the fact anyway, and that's still a lot of jailtime.

fire4effekt wrote:How to get rid of a body: Coastal Edition.
I live near the ocean, a great place for storing unwanteds. Now how to get the unwanteds into the ocean. I could use a boat, but alas Gps can probably track where you are. So to get around that i suggest getting a weather ballon, glow stick, a rifle with a scope, some cinder blocks for wieght and finally your victim. Tie the weather ballon to your victim, tie bricks to victim, tie glowstick to balloon, inflate and wave good bye to your flying friend. When you feel enough distance has passed or it's about out of range shoot the balloon(or balloons) and let that sucker drop. This could be done from land, or even while at sea on a boat.

Not advocating, just brainstorming.

It'll eventually wash ashore; speaking nothing of the massive publicity stunt you're creating in the process.

Tibbsy wrote:I'm sure I'm not the only person finding this thread both entertaining and almost scary at how much the average Dakkaite knows about disposing of bodies and covering up murders...

I actually have a degree in this sorta thing. It gives one a very specific and rarely-useful skillset.

 azazel the cat wrote:

Thermite will do the trick. Very easy to make a home, too. Just oxidized iron, aluminum (no I won't post the mixing ratio) and a strip of magnesium or tungsten to ignite it. But you're still better of using the first method I posted, as it is as absolute as you can really get with domestic resources and won't draw attention the way an aluminothermic reaction will.

Aluminum powder works best, but shavings will do in a pinch. If you're in a really big hurry and have a good asbestos glove, you can ignite it with a pencil torch or model rocket engine.

Again though, I prefer avoiding fire. It just draws too much attention.

 azazel the cat wrote:

It'll eventually wash ashore; speaking nothing of the massive publicity stunt you're creating in the process.

Depends on weather conditions. Nice, deep, fresh water that freezes over in winter but doesn't freeze all the way to the bottom is great. Dump em with a little weight when it just begins to freeze over and the body will never be found.

 azazel the cat wrote:

I actually have a degree in this sorta thing. It gives one a very specific and rarely-useful skillset.

Never met anyone with a degree in it, most of my 'instructors' got along with what might be called 'practical experience' or 'on the job training'. Used to be a shallow grave and some lye in a French vegetable garden would do if you needed to make a body disappear. Now it's all very modern.

Where does one get a degree in this sort of thing? Russia? Italy? Afghanistan?

BaronIveagh wrote:Where does one get a degree in this sort of thing? Russia? Italy? Afghanistan?

Any university or college that is known for its criminology department is a good place to start.

 azazel the cat wrote:

BaronIveagh wrote:Where does one get a degree in this sort of thing? Russia? Italy? Afghanistan?

Any university or college that is known for its criminology department is a good place to start.

Ah, now, see, they told me that if I wanted to study how to commit crimes I had to major in Poli-Sci or Business.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
and that's why you have a few dozen gallons of Fuel (Petrol,Gasoline whatever you want to call it) on hand to do the cleanup for you.

Setting something on fire is the worst thing you can do. If the police do come sniffing around, you might as well hang out a neon sign 'CSI - examine *this* closely'. And it's best to assume that the fire won't get everything, particularly since gas doesn't burn anywhere near hot enough to entirely obliterate human remains. You'd need something like white phosphorus or magnesium powder.

I know the fire wont burn anywhere near hot enough to entirely obliterate human remains.

Did you miss my description of the disposal? I saw this first hand, and there literally was nothing left to identify. No bones to speak of, nothing.

Check out my post.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/120/490908.page#5021103

1: Dress the corpse up as slave Leah regardless of the corpses gender

2: Create a life sized plaster mold of Han Solo entombed in carbonate.

3: Entomb corpse in concrete, use mold to shape concrete into a life sized replica of solo in carbonate

4: Gift and deliver the replica to an unsuspecting chump through Craigslist free section, be sure to use a false name from a burner phone.

5: Wait 5 years

6: Send in anon letter to police saying you were kidnapped forced to perform sex acts while dressed up as slave Leah at the address of the new owner, and he threatened to entomb your corpse in a Han Solo in Carbonate replica.

Surely the easiest way is to find some cannibals?
I'm sure they'd be happy to 'dispose' of a freshly deceased body for you...

 rodgers37 wrote:
Surely the easiest way is to find some cannibals?
I'm sure they'd be happy to 'dispose' of a freshly deceased body for you...

Think of how tired you are of leftover Thanksgiving turkey by now and add 100+ lbs of it and tripe organs then you will just begin to understand how much of a pain in the ass it is to dispose of a body through cannibalism...

 schadenfreude wrote:

 rodgers37 wrote:
Surely the easiest way is to find some cannibals?
I'm sure they'd be happy to 'dispose' of a freshly deceased body for you...

Think of how tired you are of leftover Thanksgiving turkey by now and add 100+ lbs of it and tripe organs then you will just begin to understand how much of a pain in the ass it is to dispose of a body through cannibalism...

If you get a group of cannibals though. They must have meet ups from time to time? If they have some pigs even better