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Polonius wrote:
 azazel the cat wrote:
Polonius wrote:I think there needs to be a Webster's law (much like godwin's), in that when people start citing dictionary definitions, the debate is now about the nature of the debate, and not the topic.


Unfotunately, it is a necessary requisite for many debates, as people often make up their own definitions for key terms of the debate; akin to saying you've hit a grand slam in baseball because you hit the ball so damned hard, irrespective or whether or not the bases were loaded.

The case in point here is that Dreadclaw's own definition of what constitutes being "traditional" seems to change in accordance with whatever he wants it to mean, and then changes again when his own definition undercuts his argument.


LIke I said, you're arguing, not about the merits of his point, but on the way in which he is arguing it. It is a snack consuming itself.

Webster's Law!

I obliterated his point several posts back. Now I'm just pointing out that the reason why it happened was because his point was built on pillars of sand.

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 gorgon wrote:
 sebster wrote:
 gorgon wrote:
As I said more succinctly earlier, it draws its rhetorical effectiveness from its lack of specificity.


It isn't just vagueness that matters, it has to be both vague and at the same time sound like there is a clear, positive message to the listener.


Note that I didn't use the word "vague."


Distinction without difference.

"It isn't just a lack of specificity that matters, it has to both lack specifics and at the same time sound like there is a clear, positive message to the listener."


If that's your only point, then it's an unnecessary clarification.

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