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2015/01/12 02:49:55
Subject: Re:Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
Co'tor Shas wrote: You know, here's the thing. I'm not saying this as an American, but as an individual. I believe this to be wrong. And discrimination is pretty resolutely in the wrong, only those who discriminate themselves disagree, and they will still object when then they are discriminated against themselves.
All discrimination is wrong?
Yes.
I wonder what you are trying to jump on me, I hope if I guess right!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Although I should explain that I am talking about discrimination of people belong to groups and what have you, not keeping known child predators away from school and stuff like that.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote: Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote: Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
BaronIveagh wrote: Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
2015/01/12 03:32:34
Subject: Re:Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
Co'tor Shas wrote: Although I should explain that I am talking about discrimination of people belong to groups and what have you, not keeping known child predators away from school and stuff like that.
But if you don't play the semantic game how will you win? HOW WILL YOU WIN?
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2015/01/12 04:18:50
Subject: Re:Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
Co'tor Shas wrote: Although I should explain that I am talking about discrimination of people belong to groups and what have you, not keeping known child predators away from school and stuff like that.
But if you don't play the semantic game how will you win? HOW WILL YOU WIN?
Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote: Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote: Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
BaronIveagh wrote: Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
2015/01/12 05:51:19
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
No it isn't. Judaism was founded around 600 BCE, and the Bronze Age in Middle East ended around 1200 BCE. Jews can trace their history back farther than that, but Judaism as we know it today came into being around that time.
No it isn't. Judaism was founded around 600 BCE, and the Bronze Age in Middle East ended around 1200 BCE. Jews can trace their history back farther than that, but Judaism as we know it today came into being around that time.
In a poll in 1989, 31% of Russians were of the opinion that gay people should be executed for their sin, while in in 1994, when asked the same question, only 23% thought executing gay people was a great idea. So much progress!!!
Perhaps President Putin intends to conform to the progressive concensus by reducing the firing squads by 8%.
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2015/01/12 13:41:30
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
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2015/01/12 19:34:59
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
It is very much just propaganda, yes.
There is no way they are really going to check your sexuality when you want to get a driver's license. That would be comical.
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2015/01/12 19:37:52
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
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2015/01/12 21:05:35
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
It is very much just propaganda, yes.
There is no way they are really going to check your sexuality when you want to get a driver's license. That would be comical.
No but you could have police stops with the equivalent of the breathalyzer test with porn images.
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It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
2015/01/12 21:16:38
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
2015/01/12 21:24:58
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
My eyes bleed just by reading this. While the underlying idea is correct, this study is just so bad >.<
- assigning homophobia based on the subject's answer - n = 70 - homophobia score from 1980. NINETEENEIGHTY. That's 35 YEARS from now and was 16 years back then. - heterosexual, male homosexual and...lesbian? Terminology? - if you let another man put something on your penis to..measure...science...then chances are...
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It is very much just propaganda, yes.
There is no way they are really going to check your sexuality when you want to get a driver's license. That would be comical.
Bit more difficult to hide being transgender though.
2015/01/12 23:23:16
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
Sigvatr wrote: My eyes bleed just by reading this. While the underlying idea is correct, this study is just so bad >.<
- assigning homophobia based on the subject's answer
- n = 70
- homophobia score from 1980. NINETEENEIGHTY. That's 35 YEARS from now and was 16 years back then.
- heterosexual, male homosexual and...lesbian? Terminology?
- if you let another man put something on your penis to..measure...science...then chances are...
Penis is fine, everyone knows it's only gay if the balls touch. Maybe they need to reinforce the study with hard facts from, say, phrenology? At least that's something they can check if they pull you over: sorry sir, you have a bump on the 'gay' part of your skull. We're impounding your vehicle, you're going to have to come with us to have your penis tested.
It'll end up being a popularity contest, just like everything else. People will make false accusations to 'get' people they don't like for whatever reason. But if everyone is focusing on who is driving while under the influence of gay, they may not focus on things like food supply shortages, crumbling infrastructure, etc.
2015/01/13 00:11:17
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
No it isn't. Judaism was founded around 600 BCE, and the Bronze Age in Middle East ended around 1200 BCE. Jews can trace their history back farther than that, but Judaism as we know it today came into being around that time.
1400 BC is about the date of the formation of the original Jewish kingdom in Israel (post Exodus). That puts it firmly in the Bronze Age.
Has the religion evolved since then? Certainly. So has every other religion on the planet. It was still Judaism though.
Judaism didn't exist when the first Kingdom of Israel was founded. There were no Jews then, just Israelites.
According to the history I have read King david was about 900 BC . there were two or 3 kings before him? I'm doubting the 600 BC . I got the 900 bc from records about a king from around the same time.(from tyre)
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2015/01/13 01:55:36
Subject: Re:Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
Medium of Death wrote: I'm suggesting it's a bit hypocritical to suggest that Russia should somehow be punished for its views on Homosexuals while giving support to places like Saudi.
You can be friends (or in the case of countries, allies) with someone and not agree with everything they do, or think certain things they do are wrong. It's not hypocritical to point out something wrong when someone else does it either. Just because you point out that you think something is wrong when Russia does it doesn't mean you don't think it's wrong when Saudi Arabia does it, unless you really believe you have to have a laundry list of caveats every time you post an opinion on something.
Medium of Death wrote: I'm suggesting it's a bit hypocritical to suggest that Russia should somehow be punished for its views on Homosexuals while giving support to places like Saudi.
You can be friends (or in the case of countries, allies) with someone and not agree with everything they do, or think certain things they do are wrong. It's not hypocritical to point out something wrong when someone else does it either. Just because you point out that you think something is wrong when Russia does it doesn't mean you don't think it's wrong when Saudi Arabia does it, unless you really believe you have to have a laundry list of caveats every time you post an opinion on something.
Pointing it out is fine, still undeniably hypocritical though. I'm talking about actual punishment. Like if additional sanctions were added because of this.
Medium of Death wrote: I'm suggesting it's a bit hypocritical to suggest that Russia should somehow be punished for its views on Homosexuals while giving support to places like Saudi.
You can be friends (or in the case of countries, allies) with someone and not agree with everything they do, or think certain things they do are wrong. It's not hypocritical to point out something wrong when someone else does it either. Just because you point out that you think something is wrong when Russia does it doesn't mean you don't think it's wrong when Saudi Arabia does it, unless you really believe you have to have a laundry list of caveats every time you post an opinion on something.
Pointing it out is fine, still undeniably hypocritical though. I'm talking about actual punishment. Like if additional sanctions were added because of this.
It's not really hypocritical if you acknowledge it. If you denied it, it would be.
Not sure confirming or denying makes a big difference. Look at ISIS: some of them claim they're being discriminated against on religious grounds while simultaneously trying to kill everyone who isn't of their faith. Its harder to claim the morale high ground if you're doing the exact same thing as the person/group/nation you're denouncing.
2015/01/13 06:38:42
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
Condemning an injustice in Russia whilst turning a blind eye to the same injustice in Saudi Arabia (because it happens to your ally) indicates a selective moral outrage.
And I'm talking about Governments here, not members of Dakka Dakka.
We see the same hypocrisy with China. Our British Government claims to be committed to Human Rights, yet quietly casts that commitment aside whenever we need to sign some new trade deal. It also colluded with America in kidnapping, extraditing and torturing terror suspects.
I'm not saying I want Russia to be "left alone", that we shouldn't condemn its disgusting treatment of gays and others. But I do wish our Governments would be more consistent. Selective moral outage proves you don't really care about the issue, you're just doing what's politically expedient.
2015/01/13 15:33:14
Subject: Re:Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: Condemning an injustice in Russia whilst turning a blind eye to the same injustice in Saudi Arabia (because it happens to your ally) indicates a selective moral outrage.
And I'm talking about Governments here, not members of Dakka Dakka.
We see the same hypocrisy with China. Our British Government claims to be committed to Human Rights, yet quietly casts that commitment aside whenever we need to sign some new trade deal. It also colluded with America in kidnapping, extraditing and torturing terror suspects.
I'm not saying I want Russia to be "left alone", that we shouldn't condemn its disgusting treatment of gays and others. But I do wish our Governments would be more consistent. Selective moral outage proves you don't really care about the issue, you're just doing what's politically expedient.
To be fair the government is consistent, unless you consider Stephen Fry to be the government.
Russian homophobia attracts media attention because it is a topical developing story the UK press has done numerous exposes over the years on Saudi Arabia, including the BBC documentary Death of a Princess in 1979-80 which still has diplomatic ramifications today.
Diplomatic protests were made over Hong Kong recently, but that was due to an obligation to speak out due to treaty history. Russia isn't formally our business, unlike Hong Kong we have signed no treaty which promises the welfare of the Russian people to which we must make protest when their welfare is threatened.
Even much larger nations like the US is saying very little about Putin on this issue, because there isnt anything to say that will actually help. However there is defiance over the Ukraine because we can do something about it, and the damage is far more globally significant.
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It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
2015/01/13 15:46:21
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
2015/01/13 16:46:28
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
2015/01/13 19:19:13
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
Hordini wrote: Yes, actually doing something while denouncing someone else for doing the same thing would be hypocritical in most cases.
It doesn't have to be though. If I drink too much alcohol while extoling the virtues of being sober, it doesn't have to be hypocricy, I could very well mean what I say but be too weak of spirit (or having drunk too strong spirit ) to achieve what I want.
For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back.
2015/01/13 20:32:57
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
Hordini wrote: Yes, actually doing something while denouncing someone else for doing the same thing would be hypocritical in most cases.
It doesn't have to be though. If I drink too much alcohol while extoling the virtues of being sober, it doesn't have to be hypocricy, I could very well mean what I say but be too weak of spirit (or having drunk too strong spirit ) to achieve what I want.
In such a case, you may not be a hypocrite, but you will sound like a hypocrite, and that is all what matters. I mean, if it quacks like a duck, swims like a duck but looks like dog, than it probably is a dog, right?
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2015/01/13 20:42:21
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
Hordini wrote: Yes, actually doing something while denouncing someone else for doing the same thing would be hypocritical in most cases.
It doesn't have to be though. If I drink too much alcohol while extoling the virtues of being sober, it doesn't have to be hypocricy, I could very well mean what I say but be too weak of spirit (or having drunk too strong spirit ) to achieve what I want.
In such a case, you may not be a hypocrite, but you will sound like a hypocrite, and that is all what matters. I mean, if it quacks like a duck, swims like a duck but looks like dog, than it probably is a dog, right?
A dog with an identity disorder.
2015/01/13 21:21:24
Subject: Russia bans transgenders (amongst others) from driving
Hordini wrote: Yes, actually doing something while denouncing someone else for doing the same thing would be hypocritical in most cases.
It doesn't have to be though. If I drink too much alcohol while extoling the virtues of being sober, it doesn't have to be hypocricy, I could very well mean what I say but be too weak of spirit (or having drunk too strong spirit ) to achieve what I want.
In such a case, you may not be a hypocrite, but you will sound like a hypocrite, and that is all what matters. I mean, if it quacks like a duck, swims like a duck but looks like dog, than it probably is a dog, right?