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 Smacks wrote:
Even before bronies were a thing, 40k was used for comic effect to express abhorrence at cutsie (frequently Japanese stuff), such as furries and lolly. This one has been around around for ages:


It's all the same garbage sentiment. "Your nerdy hobby is for GIRLS. Warhammer 40,000 is for MANLY MANLY MEN." It's ridiculous. This hobby is about painting and playing with tiny plastic dolls who fight in a make-believe magical world with space elves and space magic and space orks and everyone is absurdly heroic and tragic all the time. It's just as childish and simplistic as MLP or any other similar IP. Pretending otherwise is just the height of conceit.

   
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Bronies are the exact same thing as anyone who was/is really into Goth. Every brony i've met over does it on everything and tries to cram it into every facet of their life, just like goth people. It's one thing to be part of a culture, but to let it dominate everything you do is lame. Goths and Bronies can pretty much be spotted from across the street, and to me that screams a desperate cry for attention.

 
   
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 j31c3n wrote:
It's all the same garbage sentiment. "Your nerdy hobby is for GIRLS. Warhammer 40,000 is for MANLY MANLY MEN." It's ridiculous. This hobby is about painting and playing with tiny plastic dolls who fight in a make-believe magical world with space elves and space magic and space orks and everyone is absurdly heroic and tragic all the time. It's just as childish and simplistic as MLP or any other similar IP. Pretending otherwise is just the height of conceit.
I agree, though I think there is also a humour side to it. The inquisition are so xenophobic and intolerant, the idea of something as innocent as ponies and rainbows being "heresy" is actually pretty funny. I don't think you need to feel strongly either way to find it amusing.

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Dress it up however you want, it's just "ew, cooties" for adults.

   
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 j31c3n wrote:
Dress it up however you want, it's just "ew, cooties" for adults.
MLP and Warhammer references being "for adults" is debatable. But I'm not "dressing up" anything. People going "ew, cooties" and hating on MLP, is completely unrelated to intertextual humour.
   
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 deviantduck wrote:
Bronies are the exact same thing as anyone who was/is really into Goth. Every brony i've met over does it on everything and tries to cram it into every facet of their life, just like goth people. It's one thing to be part of a culture, but to let it dominate everything you do is lame. Goths and Bronies can pretty much be spotted from across the street, and to me that screams a desperate cry for attention.
Heh. I suspect you've met goths and bronies, (and all kinds of subcultures) and not even known.

Me? I'm a goth, sure. My house has paintings, my bookcase has lit, and my wardrobe has a section I can't navigate except by feel. I go to gigs, festivals, have a great time.

But on a day to day basis, I put on appropriate clothes, I pay attention to who I'm talking to, and their comfort levels. I go to work, I have friends who aren't into that stuff so I find out what they do like. There are people who have known me for years who upon seeing my house are surprised by the stuff I keep here (not horrified, mind). I don't think you'll find a single post in my entire history here referencing it because it's just not fething relevant.
My adult-aged goth friends are teachers, librarians, chemists, model store owners, garage attendants, and to see them in a work or casual setting you honestly wouldn't know. One of my teacher friends has a little "batnav" in her car, and that's it. A friend who fronts a stage-show band wears colourful, tidy clothes to work and keeps his hair tied back neatly.

Forcing people into recognising your interest has nothing to do with your chosen subculture. It has to do with being an as-yet immature person with no regard for how other people feel.



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 monders wrote:

re adult jokes in kids shows: Ren and Stimpy and Rocko's Modern Life spring to mind. In fact, anything on Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network in the 90s!




I miss old cartoons.


 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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 Desubot wrote:
 monders wrote:

re adult jokes in kids shows: Ren and Stimpy and Rocko's Modern Life spring to mind. In fact, anything on Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network in the 90s!




I miss old cartoons.



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 Smacks wrote:
 Spacewolfoddballz wrote:
I guess i am old but when i was a kid my little pony was a little girls cartoon. Now my son's friend who is around age 21 said he watches a new my little pony that apparently has a different tone to it than the early cartoons that was for little girls.... i am guessing simular to some other cartoon shows that are out there now more for young adults i guess... however, to me i still view ponies cartoons as the old school for little girls and personally i think young men need to learn how to be "men" and not girls.. part of what is wrong with the world today in my opinion.
I suppose attitudes change. I remember my father recounting the attitude of a man who was old when my father was young. He heard this man, who might easily have been born in the 19th century, criticizing another man for changing his child's nappy, saying: "I always thought he was a "man", until I saw him changing a baby's nappy". It is possible that in that man's time, changing a nappy was considered "woman's work" and unmanly. However, nowadays if I encountered a man who refused to deal with his child's nappy, I would consider his attitude immature, selfish, cowardly, and altogether quite "unmanly".

What is acting "like a man" even supposed to mean? I seem to see far too many douche bags acting macho and starting fights, as if they are trying to prove how "manly" they are, that's what I think is wrong with the world. Of course it's admirable to be brave, to stand up for things you believe in, to take care of your family, and your responsibilities. But why can't a woman also do that? That isn't acting like a man, it's just acting like a decent human being. Even if a guy liked to wear a fluffy pink tutu, and run around singing sunshine and lollipops... so long as he was a decent human being, I'd have far more respect for him, than I would some jerk who needs to go shoot a deer to make himself feel "manly", but doesn't take care of his family.

Ultimately, what people do when it really matters is what defines them, not maintaining some macho façade when it doesn't.

This.
 j31c3n wrote:
[40k]'s just as childish and simplistic as MLP or any other similar IP.

Well, I think some 40k stuff is still not appropriate for young children, still. I mean, I know Sisters are not the main focus, but still, which kind of person wants to show graphic pictures of horribly self-mutilated women to young children?
 deviantduck wrote:
Every brony i've met over does it on everything and tries to cram it into every facet of their life, just like goth people.

I love Goth music. Batcave, coldwave, darkwave and all that. About nobody knows about it. I wear normal clothes and I generally just look like a geek/neckbeard. I do not go around with a black mohawk and fishnet leggings and perfecto and all that jazz. Actually I do not even have t-shirts with band names on them.

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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 j31c3n wrote:
[40k]'s just as childish and simplistic as MLP or any other similar IP.


Well, I think some 40k stuff is still not appropriate for young children, still. I mean, I know Sisters are not the main focus, but still, which kind of person wants to show graphic pictures of horribly self-mutilated women to young children?


Just because something is childish doesn't mean it's for/by kids. Large legislative bodies, for example.

   
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 CrownAxe wrote:
Honestly i think any fandom cross over is lame, its not specific to MLP. It is just tacky.


True, with the exception of when Patton Oswalt is doing it.

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As a fan of both, I find it rather hilarious. At the end of the day I don't think the clash is anything new or different than any other fandom clash. How many times have you seen Space Marines slaughtering storm troopers saying "your emperor is false"?

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 Crimson Devil wrote:
I think Morgan was talking about this one:



No, not that one. It's unprimed and unpainted, with no pony-head involved - actually just a converted helmet.

I'm at work right now and can't take the time to go hunting for the specific image in a literal haystack.

EDIT:

Ah, here we go.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/44/46/bc/4446bc408cf768503960566f2093f987.jpg

Yeah, I didn't paste the picture in so that it displays. I don't know how to do that.

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I play 40k because I love the aesthetic of it, I put a ton of time and effort into making my Dark Angels look awesome on the field, making my table look awesome and 40k-ey (I bring my terrain to 40k days at my FLGS), and to have my Sons of the Lion face off against some bright pony army with too large of eyes that look completely forced and ruin the aesthetic of the game just ruins alot of the fun for me. I wouldn't mind playing against a converted Star Wars, Halo, Starcraft and so on army, because they are not too far removed aesthetically from 40k. MLP to me is just too far removed from the 40k style for me to enjoy playing against anything like that.

That said, if you like MLP, go nuts, enjoy it, but please don't force it into everything you do and make others have to endure it. Be smart, be socially aware.
   
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 Boggy Man wrote:
Singularity678 wrote:
How did 40k and my little pony clash,I mean who on earth made the connection between the two,why do 40k fans have beef with almost everyother fandom,especially fellow lovers of the imperium of man or chaos.Could someone clarify.


Frankly I have no bloody idea, the whole idea is just stupid, I mean think about it.

One Universe is full of vibrant varied characters and settings, all centered around a millennia spanning saga concerning a near omnipotent regent whose gambit to defeat the gods of chaos is ruined when their OWN BELOVED FLESH AND BLOOD becomes a corrupted harbinger of the demonic. That's some heavy stuff there.

The other, as far as I can tell used to be about that, but is now just creepy corporate-driven adolescent power fantasy about fancy boys in power armor.


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 j31c3n wrote:
Just because something is childish doesn't mean it's for/by kids.

I thought childish precisely meant “Made for children” or “Similar to what children would do” or something like this. What is the meaning of childish, then?

"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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 Desubot wrote:
 monders wrote:

re adult jokes in kids shows: Ren and Stimpy and Rocko's Modern Life spring to mind. In fact, anything on Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network in the 90s!


Spoiler:


I miss old cartoons.





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 j31c3n wrote:
 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 j31c3n wrote:
[40k]'s just as childish and simplistic as MLP or any other similar IP.


Well, I think some 40k stuff is still not appropriate for young children, still. I mean, I know Sisters are not the main focus, but still, which kind of person wants to show graphic pictures of horribly self-mutilated women to young children?


Just because something is childish doesn't mean it's for/by kids. Large legislative bodies, for example.


I'd still argue that modern 40k definitely feels like it's being aimed at kids. It was simply childish before, but there are some things in the game now that go well beyond that in my opinion.

 Desubot wrote:
Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.


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Well, the artwork I was mentioning is at least 13 years old now, I guess.
But it was the last time I ever bought a GW book, because it was their last Sisters release, so ^^'…
There is also the short story that was coming along with the WD article for frateris militia, about scary crazed zealots that involved quite a bit of gore (graphic self-mutilation and graphic mutilation of others, either through high-caliber weaponry or eviscerators) and a priest running around naked, along with a pretty frightening mindset, but it is just as old.
Maybe it is a sign of a change in GW, or maybe Sisters are just more hardcore than the rest. Seriously, repentias and frateris militia just cannot really work well without graphic horror. It would just turn into BDSM nuns and basic no-training grunt.

"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 
   
 
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