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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
In general, I have a simple question, if this was a bunch of girls who are 21 or so obsessed with transformers, would we have a problem with it?

Some people would, but way less, asthere is some extra scorn people have for “girlie” stuff. Because remember, women are inferior or something .

I don't like bronies. Nothing to do with them liking something girly though, I don't care about that, I care that they've (not all of them obviously) taken something meant for very young children and essentially fetishised it. A young girl could be looking at MLP stuff on the computer and God knows what they might find because it's been peverted by grown men. It's meant to be something for them to enjoy, and it's not very safe for them now. I don't even mind men watching it, it's specifically that part I take issue with.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
In general, I have a simple question, if this was a bunch of girls who are 21 or so obsessed with transformers, would we have a problem with it?

Some people would, but way less, asthere is some extra scorn people have for “girlie” stuff. Because remember, women are inferior or something .

I don't like bronies. Nothing to do with them liking something girly though, I don't care about that, I care that they've (not all of them obviously) taken something meant for very young children and essentially fetishised it. A young girl could be looking at MLP stuff on the computer and God knows what they might find because it's been peverted by grown men. It's meant to be something for them to enjoy, and it's not very safe for them now. I don't even mind men watching it, it's specifically that part I take issue with.

Are you... new to the internet?

There's rules, you know... and Rule 34 has been a thing since the days of BBS.

I agree, r34 is something that exista sadly. But you can see that with anything. Type in star wars or something with safe search off.

Donno, looks pretty fun to me.

BTW, pony-knight doesn't look that much different from a 40k-knight.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Think about it, gay men are reviled more than lesbians. Because a lesbian is climbing her way up, bUT a guy guy is doing the opposite, he is making himself inferior.

Well, in this particular case, I guess it has more to do with some people fantasizing about FFM threesomes, and not feeling threatened in the same way that they feel about gay men (that could hit on them! Oh, the horror!), but we are getting completely off-topic.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I don't like bronies. Nothing to do with them liking something girly though

Well, that is good for you. Spacewolfoddballz feels differently. That is what I was talking about. I am not too fond of rule 34 myself…

The reason gay men are reviled is because straight men are deathly afraid of being treated the same way they usually treat women.

I wonder why.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
In general, I have a simple question, if this was a bunch of girls who are 21 or so obsessed with transformers, would we have a problem with it?

Some people would, but way less, asthere is some extra scorn people have for “girlie” stuff. Because remember, women are inferior or something .

In every transformer movie, there is a hot chick who is in that age range who is obsessed with transformers

I don't really know any women with the least bit of interest in transformers, though I know plenty who love hello kitty, and a few others who love Warhammer 40k No, I don't know any that love both.

Quite enjoy the MLP 40k stuff. I see it more as a consious piss take by most.
Ive no doubt certain people are deadly serious about it but stuff like this does make me laugh

Spacewolfoddballz is a bad man (lets call him xenophob and racist just to be sure) because he has different opinion than somebody else?
I agree with him.
Not everybody is a liberal person. There are also conservative ones.


Dreadnought tearing a pony completely express my opinion.

Well, if there's a girl who likes transformers, you can safely bet that there is a male figure in her life who she looks up to who has had an interest in it, and she wanted to do what he was doing, and became attached as well. My sister did it, only with xmen. I've always been a huge xmen junkie, and my sister wanted to be like me and got really into them (and other super heroes) growing up.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that most 18-40 year old men didn't sit down and decide to emulate their 4 year old sisters, daughters or nieces. Because that's creepy. It would mean a part of their brain didn't grow correctly and they're stunted.

Also, any more images of Space Marines murdering MLP characters? The tears of bronies everywhere as Twilight Dumb gak gets her lungs ripped out by a chainsword please me...

The tears of bronies everywhere as Twilight Dumb gak gets her lungs ripped out by a chainsword please me...

Ouch!

I don't care what other peoples like. There's plenty of deviance out there to go around.

What I hate is when people try and shoehorn their other interests into something and it makes absolutely no sense. I've seen plenty of dumb crossover armies over the years and I just find it ridiculous.

Bronies just baffle me. I can't figure out of they're borderline pedophiles or beastiality is their thing. Luckily I don't have to interact with them and just keep my niece away from them when I see them at the MLP con we take her to.

 Hawky wrote:

Dreadnought tearing a pony completely express my opinion.

I'm pretty liberal, and the Dreadnought tearing ap ony apart expresses my opinion perfectly as well!

Family site and all that Bro, reign that in =/

 Hawky wrote:
Spacewolfoddballz is a bad man (lets call him xenophob and racist just to be sure) because he has different opinion than somebody else?

Are you annoyed by the fact I expressed how my opinion was in complete contradiction to his? Do you mean that I should not express my opinion because it might hurt his (and your) feelings?

 Hawky wrote:
Not everybody is a liberal person. There are also conservative ones.

I already knew that there are conservative people. I still do not want to be pressured into a specific role because of my genitals. In fact, I cannot see how your answer is related to my point.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Well, if there's a girl who likes transformers, you can safely bet that there is a male figure in her life who she looks up to who has had an interest in it, and she wanted to do what he was doing, and became attached as well. My sister did it, only with xmen. I've always been a huge xmen junkie, and my sister wanted to be like me and got really into them (and other super heroes) growing up.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that most 18-40 year old men didn't sit down and decide to emulate their 4 year old sisters, daughters or nieces.

Who the hell cares about why they watched the show in the first place? As I already mentioned, I watched one episode to see what all the rage was about, and if it was a good as some people were telling. I was not trying to “emulate” anyone, I was watching a cartoon I heard was good. I found it bland and boring, but someone else might have watched it for similar reasons and enjoyed it.
Actually, I am going to consider that some of the first grown men that became fans likely watched it first because they were good fathers and spent time with their daughters, which I honestly cannot find anything reprehensible about.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Well, if there's a girl who likes transformers, you can safely bet that there is a male figure in her life who she looks up to who has had an interest in it, and she wanted to do what he was doing, and became attached as well.

False!

Sure, I was introduced by male friends, but not ones I am attracted to in any shape or form.

Watch the language and consider the appropriateness of what you are to post please folks.

Thank you.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 n0t_u wrote:
I've no idea why fandoms feel the need to ram what they are fans of down other's throats and shove it into every available crevice of any other fandom they happen to come across, but that just seems to be how some people work.

That's alright, I don't understand how a TV show about friendship and Magic rainbows designed for 4 year old girls became a thing for creepy 18-40 year old men, but hey. Weird people happen every day.

I have no idea either, my experience a bunch of them come across as creepy. :/

We have a brony in our group and I'm honestly worried it might get him ostracized.

He's a good kid, and I can understand liking something weird and cute (currently painting Super Dungeon Explore figs instead of my tyranids... ) but, the majority of us are older and the pony craze never caught on.

My best buddy in the group is genuinely weirded out when he posts MLP stuff and if he tries to shoehorn in a bunch of pony figs to his army he might not be able to find a game at events.

I think we get blinded by what we love. We want it to be a part of everything we do, and in that blindness we believe everyone will accept it just because its that awesome. Regaurdless of wether it fits or not.

Anyone in this community who has a real problem with what other people do with their free time needs to take a step back and remember that they are a person paying absurd amounts of money for injection-molded plastic shaped like tiny little men that we all collectively assemble and play silly little games with.

Kind of like when I realized I had no place to call people that care about their appearance too much swallow when I spend so much effort on my goddamn computer's icon theme.

Oh, but this just plays into that incredibly weird feeling of "That is soooo cute! KILL IT NOW!!!"

I do not want to kill cute stuff. Does that makes me a weirdo or something?

 Talizvar wrote:
Oh, but this just plays into that incredibly weird feeling of "That is soooo cute! KILL IT NOW!!!"

kill it with fire, bullets, bolter rounds, laser blasts and everything else you can think of.

 Talizvar wrote:
Oh, but this just plays into that incredibly weird feeling of "That is soooo cute! KILL IT NOW!!!"

Basically this:

 Ashiraya wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Well, if there's a girl who likes transformers, you can safely bet that there is a male figure in her life who she looks up to who has had an interest in it, and she wanted to do what he was doing, and became attached as well.

False!

Sure, I was introduced by male friends, but not ones I am attracted to in any shape or form.

Your point may well still stand, but your argument was pretty bad. You obviously didn't care to read the post you commented to. He said nothing of attraction. He mentioned looking up to someone. Sort of like how I looked up to my older brother and thought anything he did was cool. In the same way, you'll often find that girls that start doing "boy stuff" have often had a cool older brother they looked up to. It's not a bad thing if a boy/girl can choose a member of the opposite gender as their role model. The fact that boys are more commonly discouraged to do so is an entirely different conversation.

And that's why I don't like the wholy brony fandom thing.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I do not want to kill cute stuff. Does that makes me a weirdo or something?

Pretty sure I said it was a "weird feeling" also my childhood was far from normal so I would hazard a guess it makes you a "balanced" person.

Nice! At least I am not weird in that regard .

 Engine of War wrote:


kill it with fire, bullets, bolter rounds, laser blasts and everything else you can think of.

All those pictures of 40k characters makes me want to see pictures of pony and beloved 40k characters giving each other hugs. Because I get the feeling it would troll you so much harder than simply pictures of pony slaughtering 40k characters.

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Bronies just baffle me. I can't figure out of they're borderline pedophiles or beastiality is their thing. Luckily I don't have to interact with them and just keep my niece away from them when I see them at the MLP con we take her to.

I usually stay quiet on this sort of thing, because it's so polarised in viewpoint - but I started off incredibly wary of the whole Brony scene, I didn't understand it at all. I am not a brony, but I'm on their side.
As a little background, I run a clothing and accessory business that interacts closely with groups like Bronies, wargamers, fans of niche genres... Schools, all sorts. I've been to or worked with most of the major UK Brony conventions and interact with their regional groups pretty often. The key word is actually tolerance.

Anyway, Bronies at their core, are disenfranchised, creative, expressive folk, who may have started their interest though this cartoon show, but now enjoy the subculture and friends they've made through the gatherings and groups.
As for liking the pony franchise, it's not so much about the ponies or "kiddy" aspect, as the gatherings themselves. I know guys and gals that haven't watched the cartoon or bought a toy in years, but put out music releases, artwork, radio plays, metalwork, it's an inspirational keystone.

At brony meets, you get the chatterboxes, the cosplayers, the quiet teens, the mums, the trans (who may not be wearing a scrap of pony merch but know it's a safe place to be), enthusiasts, casuals, and yes, you'll get that guy who cannot resist going too far. The one who's phone screen you really wanna avoid looking at.
But I couldn't give you the stereotypical brony. To say there is one definable archetype of their subculture would be short-sighted to say the least.

I don't feel I have to sell my friends to feel comfortable, but if nothing else, their active charity work is astonishing - BUCK con for example raised close to £15K in three days in 2014 for Juvenile Diabetes research.

[Rubs back of neck] Um, so yeah, whilst there *are* weird bronies, there are also some of the kindest, most beautiful people I've ever had chance to meet. Like gamers, goths, artists, they distinctly chose to be who they are.

The overlap into 40K? To put it simply: Two huge fandoms that have an overlapping demographic - imaginative, passionate people.
There is also a secondary overlap both hobbies/interests - MLP and 40K are both incredibly accessible to people in the autistic spectrum. There's the collectibility, the creative side, the good and quiet natured fandoms... I wouldn't say they're natural bedfellows, but there's more similarity than you'd expect.