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So, no $1 PM access? Anyone in SoCal with a pledge I can piggyback on later? I'd cover shipping for add ons. The dragon and temple dogs are must-haves for me.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
So, no $1 PM access? Anyone in SoCal with a pledge I can piggyback on later? I'd cover shipping for add ons. The dragon and temple dogs are must-haves for me.

Correct; the $25 tier is the bar to clear for access to the PM.

Good idea on piggybacking though. Even if it ends up vaguely around retail pricing, who knows how many months or quarters (or more) it'll take for all of the content to get to retail. Maybe by the end of the year it delivers, maybe sometime in 2019.

Apparently they also have 3 new card packs for pre-order and a 3 for 2 deal on all card packs. I am holding off for a bit in case they allow us to roll them into Wave 2 shipping.

If I'm a Minecart Backer, what 3 would I get that I'm not already getting?

Ancient Terrors, Blood Money and...?

Is it Murky Confrontations?

EDIT:

A look on the original SoB page seems to indicate all three of those card packs are already included...

They have added the next three stretch goals, unable to post the image but it's models to replace the Acid Blob tokens, XL boss for belly of the beast and a regular size mini boss. The blobs are included in sumo, their other two are shogun only.

@Alpharius: answered you on the other SoB page, but in case you don't check it very often, the Swamp Slugs and Hell Vermin were created post KS campaign, and as such nobody is getting them innately in their wave 2. However, they were available as previews at Gencon 2015, and are already at retail (you can find both at CoolStuffInc, as an example). So they might even be available locally.

Here are the new stretch goals up to 1 million.

I saw your answer there - thank you!

You are my 'go to' source for all things SoB - especially when I get confused over everything/anything!

This one is shaping up VERY nicely too...

@Alph. For what its worth, the wife and I added the Slugs and Serpentmen as one of our first extra purchases, and I must say I cannot imagine Jargono without them. I would go so far as to say it would be incomplete without them.

The Slugs are very dangerous indeed. They're a good 'siege-breaker' unit; you can try to block them up like other enemies, but just being next to them can be a tough proposition.

And yeah, almost at 912k now, come on reminder emails, let's do this thing!

Only four hours to go for that - though since that is later on EST and late night EU, we might not see too much come from it until tomorrow morning?

Honestly, i'm pretty sure we won't hit 1.3 million, as I bet a fair amount of fund disappeared into the void that is Kingdom Death, but, even sans Gender-Alt models... at $1 million, the Shogun pledge saves somewhere in the realm of $150 even at the best online discounter prices, if you would've bought anything with actual game-play value. Beyond that just makes a great deal even better.

Dropped my KDM pledge to get back on this Hell Train. I couldn't resist more SoB goodness!

 Alpharius wrote:
Only four hours to go for that - though since that is later on EST and late night EU, we might not see too much come from it until tomorrow morning?

From the 'community' page, about half the backers are in the US, over half (maybe approaching 60%'ish) if you include all of North America (I assume there's at least a few backers in Mexico, but not enough to break the top 10 list), which isn't necessarily the same distribution as people who want the Reminder email, but I assume it's not too terribly far off.

Edit: I forgot to finish that thought! So, yes, I agree that it might not be until tomorrow morning that things really get rolling, but I'm hoping we clear 1m tomorrow so we can enter the last day with the Dragon done and some of the post-1m targets lined up. Even if we don't get to the village (I'm hopeful, but respect that it'll take a big influx of people and cash), I think we'll clear well beyond 1m-1.1m.

Aeneades wrote:
Azazelex, all you should have for the Outlaw class so far is -
The double sided character card.
A double sided reference sheet with the upgrade chart.
Three Outlaw Starting Option cards: Hitman, Outlaw Charm, Reckless.
4 Starting Gear cards: 2×Outlaw Pistol, Bandanna, Sawed-Off Shotgun.

They were bundled up with the other promo cards.

gak. I'm pretty sure I don't have any of that stuff - including any other promo cards. I got 2 boxed sets and some extra plastic sprues in red. I'll check my SoB stuff this weekend just in case I put promo cards in between the starter boxes, but I'm like 90% sure I don't have any printed extras - just the sprues and bases that came with them.

Anyway. The "All-In" on this one is Sumo, right? No extra crap to buy on top?

I don't have any money spare, especially after BF, but I might play the 1-week to sort your pledge game for it.

 Azazelx wrote:

Aeneades wrote:
Azazelex, all you should have for the Outlaw class so far is -
The double sided character card.
A double sided reference sheet with the upgrade chart.
Three Outlaw Starting Option cards: Hitman, Outlaw Charm, Reckless.
4 Starting Gear cards: 2×Outlaw Pistol, Bandanna, Sawed-Off Shotgun.

They were bundled up with the other promo cards.

gak. I'm pretty sure I don't have any of that stuff - including any other promo cards. I got 2 boxed sets and some extra plastic sprues in red. I'll check my SoB stuff this weekend just in case I put promo cards in between the starter boxes, but I'm like 90% sure I don't have any printed extras - just the sprues and bases that came with them.

Anyway. The "All-In" on this one is Sumo, right? No extra crap to buy on top?

I don't have any money spare, especially after BF, but I might play the 1-week to sort your pledge game for it.

Shogun, not Sumo. Sumo is the poor mans pledge level :(

One million breached, the giant dragon is now included in both Sumo and Shogun pledges.

Pretty good deal even at the Sumo pledge now, what with the social goals included.



Next two goals are up too- Nobu Taskmaster and a Takobake cannon with crew.

Is the dragon available as an add on?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Is the dragon available as an add on?

It isn't yet, but they said early in the campaign that they anticipated it having an MSRP of $45.

We won't know for sure until they set up the pledge manager, but that was their last word on it that I'm aware of.

Edit: I'm looking for the exact quote, updated MSRP, I might've been thinking about something else as an add on.

Edit 2: that said, $25 for a lotus plus say $30+ for the dragon, you'd be over half way to a Sumo which would get you the core box, the dragon, and a pile of cards/exclusives/other stuff. I get that not everybody can fling around $100+shipping at a whim, but Lotus+Dragon (if possible) is probably a fraction of the deal just getting in at the Sumo would be.

That's a great point. I take it all the miniatures will be plastic?


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Well, I just don't have the money. Most of the minis I want look like they will be available for only 25% more at retail, which isn't too bad. Depending on the availability of the dragon I'll either wait for retail, piggyback on some kind Samaritan's pledge or try to 'late back' if the mark-up isn't too outrageous.

 Siygess wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:

Anyway. The "All-In" on this one is Sumo, right? No extra crap to buy on top?
I don't have any money spare, especially after BF, but I might play the 1-week to sort your pledge game for it.

Shogun, not Sumo. Sumo is the poor mans pledge level :(

Sorry, that's what I meant. Pledged now anyway. Assuming the usual "1-week to sort it out" thing works, I'm in.

Bad timing here for me - I'll probably have to drop down to a $25 Lotus pledge now and upgrade to SHOGUN later.

I hope the updgrade tax there isn't too high - but this is just horrible timing for me!

Damn, I hope everything's okay, Alpharius.

I mean, beyond the financial situation.

Everything will work out, but thank you for the well wishes!

I'd like to say that if this thing ended 2 weeks later, I'd be in at SHOGUN now, but probably not, as that's just 2 weeks closer to Christmas!

Any guesses on what the Upgrade Tax will be?

Hopefully less than...$50 - $75?

Off hand, I figure it'd be kind of like the upgrade tax with the Mine Cart. The highest MC during the campaign was $480, the MC in the PM was $500.

So yeah, 25-50'ish hopefully? Unless they hit a snag and find that they're once again way in the red on tiers (US economy falls off a cliff or something), I figure that with the smaller scope of the project, hopefully the 'tax' won't be very high.

Have they mentioned the size of the dragon? Will it be HIPS?

I just discovered this exists, and wonder how they compare.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Have they mentioned the size of the dragon? Will it be HIPS?

I just discovered this exists, and wonder how they compare.

It will be HIPS and the $1m update shows a scale pic. Another update said it was 188mm tall on a 90mm base.

I guess I'd better get both.

The Brimstone dragon will be much bigger- it's on a 90mm base for starters, while the Malifaux dragon is on a 50mm base.

The emissary can be the Brimstone dragon's baby brother.

Although the emissary is out now and is probably a much more enjoyable (obnoxious?) kit to build.

Too bad we didn't hit 1.3 for the village. I wonder if FFP will keep updating the total once people add-on in the PM. I suppose that will depend when the PM is launched..

 Siygess wrote:
I wonder if FFP will keep updating the total once people add-on in the PM. I suppose that will depend when the PM is launched..

Probably not. I'm aware that some campaigns do that, but they appear to be the exception, rather than the rule.

If anything, perhaps some of the stretch goals we missed will be released as paid add ons in the pledge manager like last time, but that'll remain to be seen until the PM lands.