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7th here but:

We have a conclave of Librarians with a trio of Vindicators advancing on the Guard gunline. The Librarians hide behind the Vindicators - suddenly the Vindicators vanish and the conclave can be seen preparing to buff something! Quickly the Guard guns turn to bear on the Librarians, but instead of looking scared the Librarians grin.
Confusion reigns on the Guard line as the valiant fighters suddenly realise they cannot shoot the librarians they can plainly see in the open because they cannot draw a line of sight to them. The artillery battery/mortar battery that was about to fire over open sights suddenly realises that it has to lob its shells indirectly and guess where they are landing despite the librarians being plainly visible.
Behind their invisible Vindicator squadron the Librarians giggle.

TL;DR, Invisibility was utterly stupid. For a more extreme example try applying it too a 50 man blob unit or a super heavy tank or *sniggers* a titan.

Some flyers who cant hover have a minimum movement distance, which they must move, if they dont, they crash. But when hit by a tremor cannon, they suddenly can move half their movement distance without crashing.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
-A .38 revolver is somehow able to kill a 200+ ton super heavy tank

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After shooting it a million times, sure. I'm pretty sure the tank will kill the idiot who's shooting it with a low caliber handgun before that happens.

Yeah, to be fair, as a superheavy tank player, I don't even mind this. I choose to view it less as "the pistol fired, and the round sprang off the armour, and the tank fell apart" and more as "the tank is super beat up - presumably torn up by pre-existing anti-tank weapons and possibly even close combat power. The crew are on their last threads of stress, with each ping against the hull representing potential death. Each man is a trembling wreck, at least among those who survive at all, and the vehicle's warning klaxons blare all kinds of emergencies in their ears. There is an uncontrolled fire on the lower deck, the damage control teams are trapped in a compartment rapidly filling with smoke, and the ammunition racks for one of the heavy bolter sponsons is jammed shut."

The pistol may not even fire fluffwise; rather, it's a rules mechanic that simply reflects the crew losing their nerve. But admittedly, yes, if you follow the rule logic to the letter and don't FORGE THE NARRATIVE hard enough you get nonsense (which is true for most things really).

Or perhaps the superheavy is leaking promethium fuel, and a particularly astute guardsman spots that and uses his lasgun shot to ignite the fuel, which reaches the still half-full fueltank half a second later...

Or one of the crewmembers of the superheavy had to climb outside of his badly damaged vehicle to repair a critical component to prevent it from overheating, and the guardsman puts a lasgun shot in his head, preventing the crewman from repairing anything, leading to a spectacular meltdown.

 p5freak wrote:
Some flyers who cant hover have a minimum movement distance, which they must move, if they dont, they crash. But when hit by a tremor cannon, they suddenly can move half their movement distance without crashing.

Similarly, the termite assault drill's ground tremors deal a mortal wound to everything around, even things in the air!

 DaBraken wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
- When the sun goes down, plasma weapons are more likely to explode

I laughed so hard, my tears sprinkled the backside of my glasses!

I cried so hard that the Designer's Commentary clarified that to be the case

- Sister Hospitaller resurrects dead Sisters using the same tools she's just punched into a Daemon Prince. Either she wiped the Warp-blood off on her habit, or.... euw.

- Sister Hospitaller resurrects dead Sisters with the same tool she can use to punch a Baneblade to death. What exactly is in that thing on her wrist?!

- Sister Hospitaller resurrects dead Sisters.

- Dead Sisters resurrect themselves.

 niv-mizzet wrote:

Similarly, the termite assault drill's ground tremors deal a mortal wound to everything around, even things in the air!

The mawloc does the same. This giant worm must have incredible speed when he pops out of the earth and skyrockets into the heavens to hit that supersonic flyer, with deadly accuracy, his hit rate is 83%.

And to think of all the people that yelled at me when I first made the above pic...

The supercharged plasma issue with hit modifiers is crazy, and IMO the Designer's Comments clarified it the wrong way.

Vehicles should be able to shoot when falling back and shoot units they're not in close combat with. They should also inflict mortal wounds in close combat so troops are more likely to be crushed or fallback so as not to stop the vehicle continuing.

Flamers should not auto-hit flyers.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


And to think of all the people that yelled at me when I first made the above pic...

Well, to be fair in 7th that was already the case for monsters and infantry, at least now vehicles can do it, too.

Trygon can hit aircraft but cannot hit guardman on 3.1” height ledge..

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


And to think of all the people that yelled at me when I first made the above pic...

It's also not in cover.

40k warriors are uber snipers capable of hitting in incredibly narrow margin. Weirdly all have still 1/6 minimum chance to miss.

Man, the salt about vehicle LOS is real, lol.

I'd've been okay with monsters/infantry/everything else having the same LOS restrictions as vehicles did, but I'm equally okay with vehicles having the same LOS restrictions that everything else did.

It was wonky to have both in the same game, and at the scale we're talking about (and with some of the players in the community we're in), I'd have been alarmed to see that monstrous creatures and infantry now have to behave like tanks.

"Yeah my riptide is a special variant that keeps the fuckhueg gun on a head-mount made from straws I got at the local wendy's."

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
I'd've been okay with monsters/infantry/everything else having the same LOS restrictions as vehicles did, but I'm equally okay with vehicles having the same LOS restrictions that everything else did.

It was wonky to have both in the same game, and at the scale we're talking about (and with some of the players in the community we're in), I'd have been alarmed to see that monstrous creatures and infantry now have to behave like tanks.

Agreed. It may create some weird situations, but at least it's consistent.

Realism is nice, but not if it creates arguments like the old LoS rules often did.

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Models cant embark on a transport when they moved first, and dont get within 3". The transport has to move first, only then models can embark, they have to run and jump, or something like that. A transport cannot pickup models who stood still, its impossible.

The safest place to be when a vehicle explodes is inside it.

The Deathstrike, an ICBM is out ranged by the Earthshaker cannon, a field artillery piece.

A Basilisk can somehow shoot an enemy model that is 1" away from it (literally behind the muzzle), yet the Plagueburst Crawler, with a very stumpy gun muzzle, can only hit targets that are more than 12" away.

The best non primarch psyker in the galaxy dies from warp instability the same amount as a new primaris psyker. But the primaris does not explode.

A cabal of 50 sorcerors can only try to make some fire once.

A marine has the same amount of life as your standard conscript.

That lieutenant can weather a full lascannon shot to the face that goes through his armour.

Those cultists in the building next to you mean that Daemon prince is impossible to see.

What was the primary weapon of the warmaster is only as good as the power fist given to a commissar.

A single brimstone horror can kill a titan with enough turns.

A plane physically touching a character on top of a building cannot shoot it because there is a unit on the botton floor of that building is closer.

Before the battle begins you can nominate a feculant gnarlmaw to be your warlord. After deployment it becomes terrain and completely untargetable by everything preventing slay the warlord

 Unit1126PLL wrote:


"the tank is super beat up - presumably torn up by pre-existing anti-tank weapons and possibly even close combat power. The crew are on their last threads of stress, with each ping against the hull representing potential death. Each man is a trembling wreck, at least among those who survive at all, and the vehicle's warning klaxons blare all kinds of emergencies in their ears. There is an uncontrolled fire on the lower deck, the damage control teams are trapped in a compartment rapidly filling with smoke, and the ammunition racks for one of the heavy bolter sponsons is jammed shut."

Sounds like the crew need to drink more Gnomish Vodka...

 Stormonu wrote:
- Despite the fact the towering blue marine commander stands twice as tall as everybody around him, you're not allowed to shoot him unless he decides to stand in front of his troops

To build upon your example:

Unit behind a wall or around a corner that you can't see prevents you from shooting a character further away in line of sight.

I like when Kharn kills himself, comedy gold. He's just so angry!

 Jidmah wrote:
A plane physically touching a character on top of a building cannot shoot it because there is a unit on the botton floor of that building is closer.

How on earth is that physically possible to have the unit on the ground closer than they character you are physically touching?

Is EVERYONE forgetting you measure distances from the model and not the base?

Not that you are allowed to physically touch him, as you have to stay 1" away...

 BoomWolf wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
A plane physically touching a character on top of a building cannot shoot it because there is a unit on the botton floor of that building is closer.

How on earth is that physically possible to have the unit on the ground closer than they character you are physically touching?

Is EVERYONE forgetting you measure distances from the model and not the base?

Not that you are allowed to physically touch him, as you have to stay 1" away...

You do realise ranges are measured base to base and not model to model, right? Unless a rule on the datasheet (normally for skimmers) says otherwise. For Valkyries and other flyers you measure to the base.

Wait, valks DONT have that rule?

Ok, now that's rule comedy...

Go wild: https://1d4chan.org/wiki/40K_Rules_Blooper_Reel

Might I also restate the comedy of Sonic the Genestealer?

Tyranids have a Stratagem called Metabolic Overdrive that lets a unit move a second time in the Movement Phase in exchange for not being able to Charge that turn. Hive Fleet Kraken Tyranids roll 3d6 and pick the highest roll for determining their Advance move, while their Opportunistic Advance Stratagem lets them double their Advance distance for that movement phase. The initial issue was that RaW, Advance added to your Move Characteristic for that phase, instead of increasing your characteristic for that specific move. Thus, a unit of Kraken Genestealers could move not 8 + 12 + 8 + 12 inches in the Move Phase, but 8 + 12 + 8 + 12 + 12. Combine with a Swarmlord's Hive Commander abilty for an effective top speed of 66", and a unit of Kraken Genestealers could outrun a supersonic aircraft on foot. Gotta go fast!

GW FAQed this not by stating that Advancing only applies to a specific move, but by stating that you can only advance once in a phase and it applies to all moves made that phase. This did make the initial Sonic the Genestealer option slower, with a top speed of only 54". However, GW also clarified that Opportunistic Advance could be used with Hive Commander, Overrun, Mind Eater, or any other ability that lets a unit "move as though it were the Movement Phase." Don't forget that Genestealers can Advance and Charge. Aside from giving a unit of Kraken Genestealers a theoretical top speed of 98" (8+12 from Move & Opportunistic Advance, 8+12 from Hive Commander and Opportunistic Advance, 12 from Charge, 3 from Piling In, 3 from Consolidate, 8 + 12 from Overrun and Opportunistic Advance, and another 8 + 12 from Mind Eater and Advance), the Opportunistic Advance ruling sets a messy precedent for Dark Eldar due to GW not strictly defining what "as if in another phase" actually means.

 BoomWolf wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
A plane physically touching a character on top of a building cannot shoot it because there is a unit on the botton floor of that building is closer.

How on earth is that physically possible to have the unit on the ground closer than they character you are physically touching?

Is EVERYONE forgetting you measure distances from the model and not the base?

Not that you are allowed to physically touch him, as you have to stay 1" away...

The rule you are thinking about is called "hover tank". Guess what kind of models don't have it - anything with a flyer base.
Do you want to know the best part? The German translation of that rules is flawed, telling you to ignore the tank and measure to the base. It is physically impossible to assault a German hammerhead because the model blocks you from coming within 1" of its base.

"Elite armys lack command points, because they can't fill up batallions. So we are buffing the CP from batallions to +5 to help them out."