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On an Express Elevator to Hell!!

Absolutely beautiful work above Cyel, really enjoyed looking at the painted miniatures you have posted over the past few pages.

You have convinced me to give Contrast paints a go with results like that!

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Happy to hear that! Contrasts are so quick, easy and fun it's almost like having them prepainted

As always, remember not to neglect bases - even simple ones improve the looks of even mediocre models by a lot.
   
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I've been really happy with contrasts. They effectively act as a base coat and wash and look great as long as you do highlights after.
   
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On an Express Elevator to Hell!!

They are actually one of the reasons I'm seriously considering getting into this game.

The last mass-battle army I finished (if I discount Epic, which is kind of cheating) was a Vampire Counts army for WHFB 6th edition, so a while ago! It's just such an investment of time and energy, and blocks out all other hobby activity if there is other stuff you are interested in, so cutting down on the number of coats and overall painting time needed is a big thumbs up.

Now just have to settle on a bloody starter set..


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 LunarSol wrote:
I've been really happy with contrasts. They effectively act as a base coat and wash and look great as long as you do highlights after.


Have you checked the battle report I sent you on the previous page as a comment to your statement that games with premeasuring break down on threat ranges?

And with Asoiaf's less decisive alpha there's even less need for making charges unreliable IMO.
   
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Cyel wrote:

Have you checked the battle report I sent you on the previous page as a comment to your statement that games with premeasuring break down on threat ranges?

And with Asoiaf's less decisive alpha there's even less need for making charges unreliable IMO.


It's a well played game. A lot of players panic in that situation, but definitely well leveraged the advantage of having a surplus of pawns to sacrifice. One of Warmachine's greatest strengths is that it refuses to simplify unit interaction and allows for this sort of thing, though often to the detriment of it's iconic warjacks. Also a huge part of that win is just that Alexia solves a LOT of scenario problems. Without some of her rather loose ways to manipulate models, that game would have gone the other way on scenario pretty quick, which is the kind of games where I see the problem more often. A lot of times you see situations, particularly with the circle zones where a player is able to safely threaten anything that's put in the zone. That may just be an issue with those 12" circles in general I suppose, but I've definitely seen the ugly versions of this matchup where Connie goes first.
   
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Yeah, I guess that's what I was hoping for with Asoiaf when I heard it's a great competitive game - more skilled maneuvering and perfecting my positioning. The game being more about dialing wound counters up and down with cards and special skills was an unfortunate surprise.
   
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Cyel wrote:
Yeah, I guess that's what I was hoping for with Asoiaf when I heard it's a great competitive game - more skilled maneuvering and perfecting my positioning. The game being more about dialing wound counters up and down with cards and special skills was an unfortunate surprise.


That is why I did not buy into the game. It reminded me too much of AOS design - just played a little differently.
   
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It's still a neat little wargame-boardgame hybrid, just not something I was hoping it to be.
   
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On an Express Elevator to Hell!!

Finally took the plunge and got a good deal on the main Stark vs. Lannister starter set.

Now going to be borrowing Cyel's very helpful painting guide using Contrasts on the last page

Have only spent an hour reading through the rules, which seem nicely focussed - I'll be honest I don't see much of AoS in there other than the buffing elements (which I think to be fair is probably one of the few positive elements of that ruleset).

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