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2020/02/21 10:53:28
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5
*feths up rules link in the first place.
*Fixes, but adds rules for different load out.
*As an insult adds "For rules to use this unit in games of Warhammer 40,000, download the free PDF datasheet below.".
It looks like all they can do is write stupid puns for products that sell for 100+ euros.
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Yes - and there's a third variant with a 'conventional' mortar coming as well (Morbus heavy bombard).
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2020/02/21 12:46:11
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5
This version is the first one they previewed, in the first Road to Thramas article. The first one they released had a missile cluster at the back instead.
2020/02/21 13:50:40
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5
So here's one, they gave the grav weapon barrage but updated the spiccola rocket system to spitefull say it need line of sight... on a artillery tank with a hull mounted weapon pointing up. So its an artilelry tank where only one of its two weapons is barrage... or can even shoot really.
Do you play 30k? It'd be a lot cooler if you did.
2020/02/22 16:36:11
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5
Alpharius wrote: We’ll just have to wait for them to FAQ and/or errata things - and until they do, let common sense prevail!
The joke is they're previewing rules for a book that will likely ship with errors, errors that likely won't be addressed unless there's another printing or ever. There is a very real sense that whoever is tending the ship at forgeworld on the 30k front may not fully understand the game they've been tasked with. The re-writes come off pedantic and even passive aggressive, instead of fixing the problem they double down. Case in point the recent dark angels terminators, given a special unique weapon they can't fully make use of because they're in cataphracti terminator armour that doesn't let them overwatch. Forgeworld's fix was basically this:
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Do you play 30k? It'd be a lot cooler if you did.
2020/02/23 03:27:39
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5
zedmeister wrote: Typical current Forgeworld. Gorgeous models and dubious rules. 9" range on the heavy plasma burner when it moves. Not sure about that.
I was more about rolling a single D3 for the whole unit, instead of usually clustering around an average of 3 shots, it's going to vary equally between damp squib, average roll, and lighting the target up like the 4th of July.
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2020/02/28 09:52:25
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5
I like how Forge World has so few original ideas these days that they just copied Hellblasters wholesale
Speaking of Hellblasters, 10 models of bad anatomy FW squatblasters cost 84£. A squad of Hellblasters (purely for guns), Mk III plastic squad, and Dark Angels Upgrade Pack costs 73£, and that's without even considering FW will throw tons for shipping on top of it, three plastic kits can be had 20% off in local game store, and you can use leftover Mk III guns to arm Hellblasters as Intercessors with variant pattern guns as freebie. And that's pessimistic case, you can try to find DA Hellblaster box which had DA pad sprues thrown in for free. Gee, I wonder which one is a better deal?
Why, yes, squatblasters have extra metal bar on their helmets. Something that needs seconds to make out of greenstuff, even for amateur hobbyist. That is surely worth paying 3x the price
2020/02/28 12:29:56
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5
"Copied Hellblasters" - lol. You mean like Hellblasters copied Legion Support Squads, but less interesting?
Also, we have some late breaking news here at the Obvious News Network; Forgeworld have released a unit with an expensive pricetag. Tune in at 11 for more on this absolutely stunning and unprecedented development.
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2020/02/28 12:31:36
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5
To be fair, it would make sense that the idea for Hellblasters didn't spring into Roboute's head out of nowhere when he was outlining the Primaris Codex with his BFF Belisarius. Having a 30k-era predecessor to the unit isn't the stupidest thing in the world.
In fact, haven't 30k marines been able to take entire squads with plasma guns before now? I could've sworn that was where the idea first came from.
EDIT: Curses, foil'd by Yodhrin!
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The supply does not get to make the demands.
2020/02/28 14:00:06
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5
Agamemnon2 wrote: To be fair, it would make sense that the idea for Hellblasters didn't spring into Roboute's head out of nowhere when he was outlining the Primaris Codex with his BFF Belisarius. Having a 30k-era predecessor to the unit isn't the stupidest thing in the world.
In fact, haven't 30k marines been able to take entire squads with plasma guns before now? I could've sworn that was where the idea first came from.
EDIT: Curses, foil'd by Yodhrin!
Holy crap! I just realized that Rievers are rip offs of Terror Squads! Infiltrate? Check. Terror troops? Check. FETHING SKULL HELMETS? Check.
Fething loyalist scum. So why the feth can't Night Lords have Terror Squads in 40kgw?
2020/03/02 15:06:56
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5
This month, The Road to Thramas looks at a new unit for the Dark Angels Legion and their glorious models. Get ready to protect your Characters from the worst that the Night Lords can throw at them.
The finest warriors from the Deathwing compose the ranks of Companions, honour-bound to form the personal bodyguard of Dark Angels officers. Each has taken an oath to lay down their lives before letting harm come to the one they are tasked to protect.* Any among the Companions that took a death-blow meant for their charge and survived would be granted the right to wear bone-white armour in recognition of their selfless devotion.
Equipped with the finest artificer armour and armed as standard with either a Terranic greatsword or Calibanite warblade, the Deathwing Companions also have access to a unique item of wargear – the Cytheron pattern Aegis. This provides the bearer with a 4+ Invulnerable save against Shooting attacks, and a 5+ Invulnerable save against attacks in Melee. Alternatively, the Aegis can be deployed to give the entire squad those Invulnerable saves, and any enemy models engaging the squad in assault suffers a -1 Initiative penalty.**
At the time of the Horus Heresy, the Deathwing were known as elite line breakers that shattered enemy formations, creating openings for other units. As veterans of battle, they were also able to go toe-to-toe with any hostile threat, as represented by the Companions’ Scion of the Deathwing special rule.
This dovetails nicely with the Companions’ Chosen Warriors special rule, which allows them to fight in a Challenge as if they were a Character.
The Deathwing Companions will be out later in the year, as will The Horus Heresy Book Nine – Crusade, which features more rules and background for the Dark Angels and the Night Lords. In the meantime, pick up a Dark Angels Praetor for your Companions to accompany into battle.
* In fact, a force of Deathwing Companions provided the garrison force for the inner citadel on both Caliban and Gramarye, charged with the safety of Lion El’Jonson himself.
** However, this does require two members of the squad to be equipped with an Aegis, and those carrying them can neither shoot nor fight in close combat while they’re deployed.
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2020/03/02 15:25:17
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5
Does this constitute a retcon to the Deathwing's backstory? Namely about why and when they adopted the bone colored armor. I thought it was done post-heresy to honor the noble sacrifice of some terminators... uh, somewhere. The details escape me now.
Loving the helmet wings. I've been considering getting the recent Master Lazarus model and some of the HH 30k line to convert into my custom Winged Hussar chapter.
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Agamemnon2 wrote: Does this constitute a retcon to the Deathwing's backstory? Namely about why and when they adopted the bone colored armor. I thought it was done post-heresy to honor the noble sacrifice of some terminators... uh, somewhere. The details escape me now.
I think so - Deathwing were exclusively Terminators, and only bone coloured after a confrontation with a Broodlord on a recruiting world (originally a lone Librarian, later a squad). But that might be covered in the new fluff - "Each has taken an oath to lay down their lives before letting harm come to the one they are tasked to protect. Any among the Companions that took a death-blow meant for their charge and survived would be granted the right to wear bone-white armour in recognition of their selfless devotion."
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about rolling a single D3 for the whole unit, instead of usually clustering around an average of 3 shots, it's going to vary equally between damp squib, average roll, and lighting the target up like the 4th of July.
