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Probably quoting me, and the "arc welder" of the ogryn is a melee torch, while the "storm welder" is a guns that shoot out lightning, wouldn't call those 2 "same weapon"

There is a more precise version of the lightning gun however, the Arc rifle, which is also, not the same thing.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

Did you quote the wrong person? Not sure how that comment relates.

Sorry, didn't fully relate no.

There's won't be a compilation book for these as the new books clock in at 160 pages

For those who are put off by the amount of books and pages, please know that you can find fan made rule compilation compressed to only 230 pages (100% complete). Maybe it will be 20-30 pages more with the content from all the new house books.

Baxx wrote:

Actually they need to rewrite Guilder rules because they don't come with a point cost (most of them are easily valuable for 500+ credits) and they don't even specify how many fighters are in each guild!

I didn't think that the guilds had a points cost, they just came along with the gang if you met the requirements to get a band of guild members to come along? Oh, unless you're talking about how the guild groups affect gang rating? If so, then yeah, I can't find anything that talks about that at all

But they do specify how many fighters are in each gang - for all of the guilds bar the Iron Guild, they have one 'leader' analogue (Guild Procurator), one 'champion' analogue (Guild Factotum), and one or two 'ganger' analogues (Bodyguards). Going through the guilds, the Water Guild has one bodyguard, the Promethium Guild has two, the Corpse Guild has two, the Slave Guild has two, and the Guild of Coin has two. The Iron Guild is different, in that instead of a leader/champion/1-2 gangers group, you get D3+2 hive scum.

Page 33 give you the basic numbers (1 leader, 1 champion, 1-2 gangers) and on each of the Guild sections from p34-39 they talk about how each of the fighters in the delegations is armed - the water guild bodyguard is referred to in the singular, while the rest are referred to as pairs ('both').

They could definitely make these numbers a hell of a lot clearer, but they are there

Good clarifications!

Did they have any errata/clarification in the book about getting the free dudes for outlaw guild? outlaw guild you can get the dude for free but the normal guild you need to roll d6+rep everytime you want to call them?

Well this is a nice surprise. A new Necromunda gang.

Chikout wrote:
Well this is a nice surprise. A new Necromunda gang.

Are they a new gang, or is this just the (finally) release of the Ogryn brutes for use in any gang?

Well hello there! I can only imagine what kinda options these guys will have! Looks like a fun set.

Coincidentally Artel W just put out a whole bunch of Necromunda- styled Brutes in case you have a hunkering for Underhive- related models that don't have official releases yet.

An example-

grahamdbailey wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Well this is a nice surprise. A new Necromunda gang.

Are they a new gang, or is this just the (finally) release of the Ogryn brutes for use in any gang?

A whole new gang according to the article.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/13/house-of-chains-ogryns-in-the-underhivegw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-2/

From the preview pic I thought the article would be about a well-kitbashed BB Ogre with Kastellan arms. A real gang? Pretty awesome.

Chikout wrote:

grahamdbailey wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Well this is a nice surprise. A new Necromunda gang.

Are they a new gang, or is this just the (finally) release of the Ogryn brutes for use in any gang?

A whole new gang according to the article.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/13/house-of-chains-ogryns-in-the-underhivegw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-2/

Nice! The models look cool.
Interesting addition to the gang ranks.

I hope they can get some of the option from the Ogryn kit.

Oh man those are cool. honestly though that guy with the tesla back pack could be converted into a really cool looking ork mek.

Chikout wrote:
Well this is a nice surprise. A new Necromunda gang.

I'm a bit confused about these. The article says they're Ogryn slaves who have rebelled and are trying to stay free, but the article also says they're "‘Jotunn’ H-Grade Servitor Ogryns". How can they be both independent enough to do that, and be servitors? Servitors are mindless pre-progammed cyborgs. It seems contradictory to what Servitors are meant to be to have a Gang of Ogryn Servitors who are now free.

Wow! Nice looking bunch

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Well this is a nice surprise. A new Necromunda gang.

I'm a bit confused about these. The article says they're Ogryn slaves who have rebelled and are trying to stay free, but the article also says they're "‘Jotunn’ H-Grade Servitor Ogryns". How can they be both independent enough to do that, and be servitors? Servitors are mindless pre-progammed cyborgs. It seems contradictory to what Servitors are meant to be to have a Gang of Ogryn Servitors who are now free.

I think it's that the models can be used for both.

Hmmm T.H.R.U.G 12 is a house Van Saar Ogryn.

Turn out they aren't very loyal after all.

I reckon there're someone pulling strings behind these Ogryn rebel.

These are looking like a plastic kit to me. The middle and right one shares the same body but the left and right share the same legs. Plastic servitor ogryns anyone?

Tempted to get a box because reasons.

Wow, those Ogryn models are gorgeous. Can't wait to get hands on them.

Also glad that my converted Brute will more or less fit alongside them (https://yaktribe.games/community/media/ogryn1-jpg.35130/full).

I do wonder what their equipment outlook will be. Can they take chonker versions of normal Trading Post weapons, or will they be tightly restricted to their own custom armoury? It's a converter's dream if we'd actually get to build big-boy autoguns and other wacky stuff.

A gang of T5 is scary, but if they don't have a way around getting Pinned I don't know if they'll be competitive. They have bad BS, probably short-range shooting anyway, and will be creeping 5" towards the enemy every turn any time they need to unpin themselves.

 Altruizine wrote:


Also glad that my converted Brute will more or less fit alongside them (https://yaktribe.games/community/media/ogryn1-jpg.35130/full).

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No offense to the new models, but honestly, I love the way your model looks even more

I can't wait to see what options these guys will get, head wise. Or what FW will come up with to give them

Worth noting that the two on the right have the same torso, and the blokes on either end have the same left hand.

What a surprise! I definitely need to sell my WarCry collection now, in order to be able to afford all this sweetness!

The FB team has confirmed they are multipart plastic.

Those are JUST incredible. Holy freaking crap! I need three!

MYSTIC GROTSNIK PREDICTS SALES OF FW’s HERESY OGRYNS MAY SOON DIP!

Mystic Grotsnik has spoooookkkkeeeeeeennnnnnn!

Oooooh those ogryns are great. The fact they are also plastic is just gravy. I've been wanting to make some more-or-less civilian ogryns

Cool looking Ogryn but... W2?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Cool looking Ogryn but... W2?

Yeah. I clocked that. Seems a bit weedy. But still, T5. That’s a 5+ for most starting gang weapons?

Also.....when exactly do you sleep? You seem to be up and posting when I am

Well they look cool. I wonder if the other House books will have new but related gangs in them as well?