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The Battle Barge Buffet Line

 Thargrim wrote:
I've never read the books, but 1/3rd into this season and i'm kinda puzzled as to how this could end in any satisfying way with 4 episodes left. That 45ish miniute episode felt like 20 minutes. Maybe if the last episode runs at least 60-90 minutes. I've enjoyed these first 2 episodes though.


This one felt long to me as a mostly buildup episode. Yes, the Roci accomplished a mission but it too was basically a buildup rather than its own thing with a real resolution. This sounds like a complaint but I understand that in order to properly pay off the entire series that some episodes need to be mostly build up.

For those who have read the books...

Spoiler:
Is the C story with the girl/animals on the colony planet important? It felt like filler so far that didn't need two separate extended scenes just to flex cgi animal muscles and less than stellar kid acting. I'd rather have more time with Avrasarala personally.

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@Warboss:-

Spoiler:
It's setup for events of books 7-9, which implies that Amazon does have some sort of plans to cover that in the future and not just stop at the end of this series. It's taken from the side novella "Strange Dogs" rather than the main books.
   
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The Battle Barge Buffet Line

pgmason wrote:
@Warboss:-

Spoiler:
It's setup for events of books 7-9, which implies that Amazon does have some sort of plans to cover that in the future and not just stop at the end of this series. It's taken from the side novella "Strange Dogs" rather than the main books.


Thanks. I'll look that one up as I'm not averse to spoilers generally (or specifically with this show as I looked up the books last season).


Automatically Appended Next Post:
edit: Seems like an odd choice given its a recent (2017) publication and the show ending. At least from the wiki, it doesn't really tie into the main story at all and I'm not convinced starting a new thread is the best idea right now even given the possibility of B5/Firefly/Stargate style post series follow up films.

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Newcastle, OZ

They've shown key parts of the novellas and short stories in the main seasons prior to this one.
The story of Solomon Epstein's enhanced fusion drive ( the short story "drive") which allowed Mars to first declare independence from Earth - or the story of "the butcher of Anderson station" to introduce Fred Johnson on Tycho, for example. Strange Dogs is just the latest of those, but it ties into how different life is on Laconia.

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Another good episode with plenty going on.

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@Warboss: Amazon have zero say in what else comes for The expanse after this season. They don't OWN the show - Alcon entertainment does and always has. Amazon only financed a couple of seasons. Like Sci-fi and netflix before it.

If anything else comes after this, it won't be amazon unless they pony up the moolah.

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Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.

That is not dead which can eternal lie ...

... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
 
   
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The Battle Barge Buffet Line

 chromedog wrote:
@Warboss: Amazon have zero say in what else comes for The expanse after this season. They don't OWN the show - Alcon entertainment does and always has. Amazon only financed a couple of seasons. Like Sci-fi and netflix before it.

If anything else comes after this, it won't be amazon unless they pony up the moolah.


I know and agree. I was speaking generally about the end of the show and possibilities of future follow-ups. I hadn't heard though that Netflix was involved in the past. Did they pay syfy for it in return for streaming rights or something?

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It was after Syfy dropped it (they wanted more say in distribution - they had the USA only. Space had it in Canada, and netflix had it for a bunch of other places - including Australia, after they expanded to include us - but they only started airing S1-3 AFTER Syfy had finished those seasons here. starting in 2017.)


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The Battle Barge Buffet Line

Ah, ok. I didn't realise the initial distribution was so fragmented. It kind of reminds me of nutrek in that regard.

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That girl on Lacondia is annoying, why is she getting air time? The ET should of ate her.
   
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The Battle Barge Buffet Line

 Big Mac wrote:
That girl on Lacondia is annoying, why is she getting air time? The ET should of ate her.


I agree. It's definitely the weakest c-plot of the series for me.

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UK

 warboss wrote:
 Big Mac wrote:
That girl on Lacondia is annoying, why is she getting air time? The ET should of ate her.


I agree. It's definitely the weakest c-plot of the series for me.


I assume it will be important - I would have thought that if the scientists know that the wildlife is poisonous to humans and vice versa they might tell the children so they don't eat some berries or something.....

Otherwise its going well and nicely building up although Holden will defiantely regret
Spoiler:
not killing Marco and his son when he could given that he seems to be about to have a fleet of alien tech ships at his command



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The girl (and her brother) is more important in the books, but this is just the inclusion of the short story plot of "strange dogs", where it fits in the narrative.

"Broken" things on Laconia have a habit of getting 'fixed' if there is sufficient protomolecule around (and when they brought the sample from Sol to Laconia, it woke up a lot of stuff, just like in S4, but there was no "Miller" poking buttons.).


Oooh.
Spoiler:
Looks like a Proteus class warship they show Marco, too

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I’m sorry and I love you but oh my god that was a painful scene to watch.

 
   
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The Battle Barge Buffet Line

It feels like they're drawing it out for the feels a bit this season.

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I am officially sick of mopey indecisive Filip. Don't even care if he lives or dies now.

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The Battle Barge Buffet Line

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I am officially sick of mopey indecisive Filip. Don't even care if he lives or dies now.


Insert snickers meme with animated GIF of Filip here.

I understand why Holden supposedly disarmed the warhead but I find that motivation so mind numbingly stupid that only a Hollywood writer would think they're being morale in writing it. The guy literally is killing millions on Earth (with tens of millions likely due to famine/starvation in the decades to come due to the quasi-nuclear winter) and he lets the literal head of the genocidal terrorist movement go because Naomi's son photobombed the comms. That's my current pet peeve along with the slow pacing and unnecessary cgi animals/kid C-plot.

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I can forgive Holdon making a stupid emotional decision in the heat of the moment. He’s been pretty consistently guided by/ acted on them.

 
   
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The Battle Barge Buffet Line

I dunno. This one seemed an order of magnitude more durp than any prior ones. YMMV.

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UK

 AduroT wrote:
I can forgive Holdon making a stupid emotional decision in the heat of the moment. He’s been pretty consistently guided by/ acted on them.


yep - Him and Naomi both....lets face it her son was having no issues firing missiles at them....but its in keeping with their characters - people do stupid things.

Plus I think Holden is assuming the worst is over. And is apparently VERY wrong

I am officially sick of mopey indecisive Filip. Don't even care if he lives or dies now.

Had more than enough of both him and his mother for at least two seasons now

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Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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Im real worried that Filip is going to be a redemption by death.

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UK

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im real worried that Filip is going to be a redemption by death.

Sadly quite likely. - probably have an epsidoe revolving around uniting Naomi and him

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Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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 Mr Morden wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im real worried that Filip is going to be a redemption by death.

Sadly quite likely. - probably have an epsidoe revolving around uniting Naomi and him


I would be fine with that as long as whatever they were uniting in blew up, with her douchey baby daddy in it as well.
   
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 Dreadwinter wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im real worried that Filip is going to be a redemption by death.

Sadly quite likely. - probably have an epsidoe revolving around uniting Naomi and him


I would be fine with that as long as whatever they were uniting in blew up, with her douchey baby daddy in it as well.

Now thats a episode I want to see

I AM A MARINE PLAYER

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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Jesus Christ.
Spoiler:
That amputation was the first time I've been squeamish in a while.

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trexmeyer wrote:
Jesus Christ.
Spoiler:
That amputation was the first time I've been squeamish in a while.


The camera might not have looked away, but I certainly did.

 
   
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I've not read the books, but with only 2 episodes to go it feels like there's still way too much story to cover.

And every moment spent on the kid & alian animals just wastes the remaining time.

So are the last two episodes going to be some sort of giant montage trying desperately to wrap things up? Or are they going to amble along at the current pace & just.... end?
   
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 Mr Morden wrote:
 Dreadwinter wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im real worried that Filip is going to be a redemption by death.

Sadly quite likely. - probably have an epsidoe revolving around uniting Naomi and him


I would be fine with that as long as whatever they were uniting in blew up, with her douchey baby daddy in it as well.

Now thats a episode I want to see


I just started season 3, halfway into first episode and I feel you.

Spoiler:
She just told Alex and Amos that they’ll go to Tycho Station and they’ll never have to see her face again. Looks like thats a lie.

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I wonder if they actually intend to end the story with this season or if they’ll bank on shopping it around to a new home.

 
   
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The fact they're doing the Laconia stuff implies to me that they have some confidence that they'll be able to cover books 7-9 in some format in the future - either as series or movies.
   
 
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