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Are the books inside the limited box set?

   
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 Red Corsair wrote:
Are the books inside the limited box set?

Nope.

Separately to the Shadow Throne box, codexes for both the Adeptus Custodes and the Genestealer Cults will also be released later this year, bringing new features to each faction.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/10/30/warhammer-day-2021-take-the-fight-to-terra-itself-with-the-next-battle-box-and-codexes-for-warhammer-40000/

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It's not just shipping issues - manufacturing in China has taken a huge hit because of electricity rationing - lots of factories only being allowed to operate 4 days a week, putting them miles behind schedule. Not that there's enough containers for the stuff to go on anyway... then you have Christmas where a lot of even the core stuff (food buying pattern, gifts, etc) changes...

GW going "well we're going to put out the box and then the codexes separately" *is* them getting a handle on the situation and doing something regardless, rather than just sitting on the announcement and pushing the whole thing to the new year.
   
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 Ordana wrote:
WTF is going on with GW. I understand global trade is kinda scuffed but surely its been going on for long enough now that they should have a better handle on things.


Brexit is making mess of things in uk compounding issue far beyond elsewhere

2022 painted/bought: 38/38 
   
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Tampa,FL USA

 Ordana wrote:
 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
 Ordana wrote:
WTF is going on with GW. I understand global trade is kinda scuffed but surely its been going on for long enough now that they should have a better handle on things.


WTF is going on with you, that you think a worldwide problem that is crippling global trade, should be an easy fix for GW?
Fix it? Obviously not. Hence my comment about knowing its screwed up. But I would expect them to have a better idea of when they can get goods delivered or further shorten the window for announcing things if they don't.


I can't even get a timeline from corporate Starbucks on when my store is getting something as simple as STRAWS again and those are domestically produced. I can forgive GW not knowing when they're getting their foreign produced product.

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If only there was SOME WAY to distribute rules without needing imported books!

If only!

But something like that must certainly remain in the realm of science fiction.

 
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
If only there was SOME WAY to distribute rules without needing imported books!

If only!

But something like that must certainly remain in the realm of science fiction.


Yeah, think of all the possible Applications for such a technology!
They could answer so many Frequently Asked Questions!
It would truly be a big Plus for Warhammer.

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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
If only there was SOME WAY to distribute rules without needing imported books!

If only!

But something like that must certainly remain in the realm of science fiction.


I guess you didn't sign up for Telegram+

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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
If only there was SOME WAY to distribute rules without needing imported books!

If only!

But something like that must certainly remain in the realm of science fiction.


Maybe gw prefers everybody to get the book rather than only partion at first?

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In a way I'm glad all that outsourcing of cheap unsustainable labour is biting corporations in the arse. Even now it means they can wash their hands of responsibility and blame it on the supply chain.

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To be fair GW sees the fluff content of a book as a key recruiting and retention factor. Wahpedia doesn't do that. They might be right or wrong, but its certainly how they see their business continuing.
   
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The_Real_Chris wrote:
To be fair GW sees the fluff content of a book as a key recruiting and retention factor.


To be fair that's still true, although not to the same extent it used to be. While many older players have read most of that fluff before, newer ones still use that material for inspiration.

There will always be a market for printed books. Even when we had official ebooks available GW still sold plenty of printed copies to people with a preference for paper over digital.

There's also the issue of 3rd-party retailers losing a lot of income if the only place to buy certain new products is direct from GW. On a launch weekend a popular new codex alone can be worth thousands in revenue to the larger resellers, and that's not counting additional sales added to ship with the same order.

Claiming that a switch to all digital rules is some kind of simple fix to global supply issues is very disingenuous.
   
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/25/troops-are-better-than-ever-how-the-next-three-codexes-improve-your-units/?utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=warhammer-40%2C000&utm_content=codexupdates25112021

Previews for troops update.

Summoning via cult icon sounds interesting, but your unit have to survive for that. But I like it from a flavor point of view. Also T4 on Acolytes is nice.

   
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Gathering the Informations.


This calls upon reinforcements lurking in the shadows to restore them to fighting strength – in the case of Acolyte Hybrids, that’s D3 destroyed models from the unit.


For those not wanting to click the link.
   
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New codex rules preview up

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/29/adeptus-custodes-crush-foes-with-devastating-battle-stances-in-the-new-codex/

After both sides have deployed, but before you have determined who will have the first turn, you must select a Convoluted Special Rule from the list opposite to explain to your opponent during the game. Note this down secretly on your roster, otherwise you won't remember which Convoluted Special Rule you picked.

In each of your Command phases, you must select half of the Convoluted Special Rule to explain to your opponent during the turn. This has some kind of benefit to your army.

Convoluted Special Rules cannot be used more than once per game in case we accidently made them too strong. They must also be used in a specific order for some reason. However if you are willing to spend command points there will inevitably be a strategem that lets you ignore these restrictions.
   
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Gathering the Informations.


You spent more effort being snarky than just copy/pasting the image URL.



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Sounds cool to me. The extra attack in exchange for 1 damage seems really handy.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:

You spent more effort being snarky than just copy/pasting the image URL.

You say that as if both of these two things are meant to be equivalent.
   
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 xttz wrote:
New codex rules preview up

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/29/adeptus-custodes-crush-foes-with-devastating-battle-stances-in-the-new-codex/

After both sides have deployed, but before you have determined who will have the first turn, you must select a Convoluted Special Rule from the list opposite to explain to your opponent during the game. Note this down secretly on your roster, otherwise you won't remember which Convoluted Special Rule you picked.

In each of your Command phases, you must select half of the Convoluted Special Rule to explain to your opponent during the turn. This has some kind of benefit to your army.

Convoluted Special Rules cannot be used more than once per game in case we accidently made them too strong. They must also be used in a specific order for some reason. However if you are willing to spend command points there will inevitably be a strategem that lets you ignore these restrictions.


Thanks for the laugh.

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I miss when 40k didn't have forty layers of special rules on top of the main gameplay and the unit stats actually kinda mattered

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I really, really love the fact that this sentence:

"Sorry, but you can't fall back with that unit because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance 2, having already declared the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn"

has real meaning in the game warhammer 40,000. Absolute dadaist brilliance. Phenomenal. I watched my friend defend his doctoral thesis in theoretical particle physics yesterday and there were not just one but multiple sentences more comprehensible to me than the rules for this game i've played for over 15 years.

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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Man, it's like GW went out of their way to find the one thing no Custodes player was asking for or would even think to ask for, and gave it to them. It's hard for me to imagine a bigger miss.
   
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Halifax, Nova Scotia

One of the things I previously liked about Custodes is that they mostly worked without a laundry list of special rules to remember and explain.
   
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Yeah, it's super weird that Custodes, who are mentioned to fight like a series of individuals or like lions, suddenly have an overarching army buff that forces everyone to follow a rigid process.
   
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Do YOU want to simulate the fact that the Custodes guard Holy Terra: seat of the Administratum? Well GOOD NEWS! Now you can with Codex: Adeptus Custodes' new tedious bookkeeping! More notes to make! More rules teetering atop the already gratuitous piling!
   
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 Grimskul wrote:
Yeah, it's super weird that Custodes, who are mentioned to fight like a series of individuals or like lions, suddenly have an overarching army buff that forces everyone to follow a rigid process.


Wait...but lions don't fight as...

....oh, never mind, it's space marine lore, whatever. Sure. Lions, famous for fighting 'as individuals', widely regarded as the most individualistic of the big cats.

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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I just feel like they had to shoe-horn this rule in there.

They were like:

Bob, the head codex planning guy: "hmm, every other army has a weird rule that requires book keeping and explaination/confusion for the opponent, so we'd better think of something!"

Codex editor Terry (aka unpaid intern that just rubber stamps OK on codexes): "hey, we should also use names that no one will ever, EVER be able to recognize or memorize or otherwise associate with the rule without looking it up"

Head codex guy Bob: <sweating>

GW el presidente: "Terry, how would you like to be the next Head Codex Honcho? You will be paid in Citadel Colour Spray Sticks."

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I am more interested in what the GSC “summon the cult” rules previewed a little earlier (recover d3 models) might mean for Tyranids down the line. Maybe that will be how their numbers will be shown, in the form of rapidly “healing” tarpit units.
   
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The dark hollows of Kentucky

Soooo......looks like the same people that wrote the Admech codex wrote the Custodes codex. Let's hope they stick with Imperials.....
   
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"We need to come up with a faction rule for the Custodes. Which of the existing style of rules should we use as the base."

"Everybody really hates the Necron Command Protocols were you have to choose the turn order of the bonuses before the game starts."

"We can improve on that and prove the players are wrong to hate that process! Great suggestion."
   
 
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