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It'd be even better if you rolled for them randomly.

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It really begs to wonder, how their internal feedback and review process looks like. The solution for this horrid design would have been obvious, give every squad the ability to declare an individual Kata (FU GW for unreasonable spelling of existing words. Extra minus points for the "add an apostrophe, it'll make it look sophisticated" BS) from the list in the Command Phase. No restrictions. Price the models accordingly. It would have been reasonably elite and thematic. Heck, they could even have sold markers for every Kata so that you can keep track like in KT.

I really dread for what BS they come up for IG in 2023. My expectation at this point is, declare an Order in the Command Phase. Any model in 6" to an Officer receives the benefit. Thereby finally nailing any theme of the special rule into a coffin after 3 editions of dilution.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It'd be even better if you rolled for them randomly.


Next codex, alongside the release of a new model for the Drunken Shield-Master that lets you roll for an additional effect if he's your warlord.

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I suspect its their answer to people complaining they want more decision making at the table and have gameplay be less pre-determined at the list building stage?

But its a horrible way to go about this and doesn't even really do that since you only ever have 2 choices while playing and what those are was decided beforehand.

And yes lore wise this completely goes against what Custodes armies are supposed to be. A collection of exceptional individual soldiers fighting their own battle but not working as a single cohesive unit.

Also if they made the Custodes and GSC somewhat mirror eachother, in the same way that GK and TS do this makes me really wonder wtf they are doing with GSC.
Arguably a rule like this would work much better for GSC where an ambush has been set ahead of time and different parts of the uprising will have been given objectives and orders ahead of time.

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The best part about Custodes was how simple in rules they were. To win you needed to use your stats and your units.

At least is not as bad as the Necron Protocols but feth meh, I would have liked more a flat bonus that I chose like sacred rites. Or nothing at all TBH.

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 Galas wrote:
The best part about Custodes was how simple in rules they were.


Are you sure you're not thinking of Heroquest?

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New info.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/30/lead-a-full-sisters-of-silence-army-with-the-powerful-knight-centura/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Article&utm_campaign=Knight-centura,+Nov+30&fbclid=IwAR0eksuJAeXIHfHFwFaojEsXnaiNvaELz9PCbFYbQzGD0AgyGfyEISFa4X4

New character. Totally unsure if new model. I think it’s just made from the basic kit?


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Nah those are just SoS kit parts, nothing new there. Kudos to GW for making an entire army out like 3 kits
   
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I think it's just from the plastic kit, doesn't look like a new model.

Interesting to see that they're trying to make SoS standalone detachments more viable but I don't know if people will take them beyond the min 5 man Prosecutor squads for troops, and we don't know if they have any restrictions if they're in a detachment with Custodes.


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 Gert wrote:
Nah those are just SoS kit parts, nothing new there. Kudos to GW for making an entire army out like 3 kits


To be fair, they've got some practice from AoS. They basically did the same thing with Bonesplitterz.

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I be surprised to see restrictions on mixed forces since that's the point of the Talons. Maybe mixed forces lose access to the Cutsodes and SoS special rules but gain something else to supplant it but I doubt it'll be like the Cultist restrictions in the Tsons and DG books.
   
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 Gert wrote:
I be surprised to see restrictions on mixed forces since that's the point of the Talons. Maybe mixed forces lose access to the Cutsodes and SoS special rules but gain something else to supplant it but I doubt it'll be like the Cultist restrictions in the Tsons and DG books.


Yeah, and SoS aren't in the "cheap" range of cultists anyways so it would seem unnecessarily punitive given that SoS and Custodes are supposed to work in tandem with one another versus cultists being generally treated like slaves/cannon fodder.

We'll see if they add any new bespoke rules to the Datasheets for the SoS since I don't remember most of their units having much selling points besides being able to target/damage psykers more easily and their baseline Pariah rules.
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
New character. Totally unsure if new model. I think it’s just made from the basic kit?
Basic model, and by fortuitous coincidence the exact model that I converted a while back as a 'character'. IIRC it needed very few extra bitz over and above the spares in the squad box to put together an 11th sister.
   
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GOOD fething lord no are you kidding man, GW would have to make a new sculpt for sisters of silence!!!

AND THEY SHALL KNOW. ONE. SPRUEEEE!

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"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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 the_scotsman wrote:


GOOD fething lord no are you kidding man, GW would have to make a new sculpt for sisters of silence!!!

AND THEY SHALL KNOW. ONE. SPRUEEEE!


It is really funny that GW has like an endless supply of primaris lieutenants sculpts in their closet or something but they can't be bothered with one official clampack HQ model for SoS.
   
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 Gert wrote:
Nah those are just SoS kit parts, nothing new there. Kudos to GW for making an entire army out like 3 kits


Its only 1 kit. The Proesecutors, Vigilators, and Witchseekers are all built out of the same set of sprues/box (regardless of what name they put on the box itself). The HQ choice is just the unit sergeant from that box (I believe leaving you 4 sisters without a leader, though it sounds like someone else managed to squeeze one out from the leftover bits instead). The only additional unit in the army would be a rhino and land raider I guess, so in that sense I suppose it could be 3.

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Gathering the Informations.

chaos0xomega wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Nah those are just SoS kit parts, nothing new there. Kudos to GW for making an entire army out like 3 kits


Its only 1 kit. The Proesecutors, Vigilators, and Witchseekers are all built out of the same set of sprues/box (regardless of what name they put on the box itself). The HQ choice is just the unit sergeant from that box (I believe leaving you 4 sisters without a leader, though it sounds like someone else managed to squeeze one out from the leftover bits instead). The only additional unit in the army would be a rhino and land raider I guess, so in that sense I suppose it could be 3.



Or it looks like 4 models being the base size, with 5 as an upgrade.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Nah those are just SoS kit parts, nothing new there. Kudos to GW for making an entire army out like 3 kits


Its only 1 kit. The Proesecutors, Vigilators, and Witchseekers are all built out of the same set of sprues/box (regardless of what name they put on the box itself). The HQ choice is just the unit sergeant from that box (I believe leaving you 4 sisters without a leader, though it sounds like someone else managed to squeeze one out from the leftover bits instead). The only additional unit in the army would be a rhino and land raider I guess, so in that sense I suppose it could be 3.



Or it looks like 4 models being the base size, with 5 as an upgrade.


No, they're 5 model units. The "HQ" unit is literally just the sergeant from the box built as a Vigilator. https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Vigilator-Squad

All what you're seeing in that photo is the base 5 model unit of Vigilators up front, 5 Witchseekers in the middle, and 5 Prosecutors in back. The Vigilator at the very front is the unit sergeant rather than the Knight-Centura HQ.

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Gathering the Informations.

The two look exactly the same...which is kinda my point.



There's zero possibility they will not allow for you to build a minimum sized unit out of the box if you build the HQ.
   
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chaos0xomega wrote:
though it sounds like someone else managed to squeeze one out from the leftover bits instead
I had a look at the left-over sprues at it is the torso/cloak that is missing. £2-3 from ebay, don't remember if I bothered to pick up a matching shoulder piece or not.
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I’d bet some kind of bodyguard unit, four strong?

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 Gert wrote:
Nah those are just SoS kit parts, nothing new there. Kudos to GW for making an entire army out like 3 kits


The Flesheater courts from AOS is pretty much that. They just took a dual kit, and kept combining different options until they had half a dozen different options. Honestly surprised they have divided up the blightkings into an "armored" and "unarmored" unit yet
   
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any particular reason why she has 1 point of movement more then you would normally expect?
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’d bet some kind of bodyguard unit, four strong?

I'd assume that if they were a bodyguard unit, they would have mentioned it in the article.
   
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 Ordana wrote:
any particular reason why she has 1 point of movement more then you would normally expect?


All sisters of silence are currently move 7.


As someone who owns like 40 sisters of silence, I'm pretty excited about this news!

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 Kanluwen wrote:
The two look exactly the same...which is kinda my point.



There's zero possibility they will not allow for you to build a minimum sized unit out of the box if you build the HQ.


If by "zero" you mean "every".

Want a Big Mek in Mega Armor? Build it from the Meganobz box and you have 2 left over Meganobz that aren't big enough to be a minimum sized unit.
Want a Flesh Eater Courts Crypt Haunter/Flayer Courtier? Build it from a box of Crypt Haunters/Flayers, you have 2 left over Haunters/Flayers that aren't big enough to be a minimum sized unit.
Want a FEC Crypt Ghast Courtier? Build from a box of Crypt Ghouls, leaving you 19 other Crypt Ghouls, which is big enough for a minimum sized unit of 10, but gives you 9 extra Ghouls that you won't want to field short of a full sized unit.
How about if you want an Adeptus Custodes Shield Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike? Gotta buy a box of Vertus Praetors to build it, leaving you 2 leftover Custodes on Jetbikes that you can't field as part of a minimum unit. Same with Shield Captains wearing Allarus Terminator armor, gotta buy the box of Allarus Terminators, leaving you 2 leftover dudes that you can't field as a min unit.

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Yeah but apart from all that, there's, like, zero possibility!

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When they made the Custodes Codex they changed the custodes squad from 5 min to 3 min to allow you to use the basic box as basically a start collecting of captain, troop squad and vexilla.

If woud like 4 girl squads of SoS but I'm not counting on it.

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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the Katah rules are garbage. Why do they think that 'pick x options from a list pre game before you know pretty much anything about how the game is going and then hope you didn't pick badly' is good rules design?

I genuinely didn't think they could come up with an army wide rule as bad as command protocols for necrons and to be fair these are not as bad. Dear god it was close though.
   
 
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