Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

 skullking wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
48 hour notifcation

Yup, Look at almost every KS out there. The last 48 is the biggest jump.

I looked, and I can't see any that have such a massive spike from so few backers.

Remember, most of these backers have backed a lot of Mierce projects, and a lot of the comments were along the lines of "I'm tapped out" "Here's £100, but that 's my limit etc.
Look at that graph:



Compared to:


That's not just a normal last minute pledge rush...which, by the way, is usually from lurkers.

That's an average of £325 from 8 people, none of whom were chatting in the forum about the kickstarter looking like ti would miss the target, nothing...

It just looks way out statistically...

Yx - I don't know what exactly you're trying to insinuate here, but I can't help but feel you're trying to find things that aren't there. The majority of KS start with a boost the first day, lag in the middle, and then boost again at the end.

You're in this KS, why not just post and ask there?

 skullking wrote:
Yx - I don't know what exactly you're trying to insinuate here, but I can't help but feel you're trying to find things that aren't there. The majority of KS start with a boost the first day, lag in the middle, and then boost again at the end.

You're in this KS, why not just post and ask there?

Oh, OK, if you think that surge is normal, I'll hush my mouth.

Actually Mierce KS are one of the few set up so a last minute splurge from existing backers is a real possibility,

it's not as if there's a fixed buffet of stuff to pick from like a big CMON box game where there's a realistic limit unless people start buying duplicates,

there's an absolutely massive back catalogue of stuff you can pick up via the KS, and most of the existing backer know it (and probably have a fairly significant list of stuff they'd like but have yet to afford)

So given that and the happy community atmosphere it's all to easy to say, go on I can stretch for just one more host, just one big monster, just one unit of humans, i'm going to get them eventually anyway, if I toss the money in during the KS i'll get a better deal and i'll help out the group




Automatically Appended Next Post:
(well that's how it goes for me when I've got money to spend, an initial buy in for what I hope unlocks, some money added as more stuff unlocks or intermediate stretch goals are revealed, and then a dollop of cash at the end when I try and decide if I can push my budget for the next month or two)

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Actually Mierce KS are one of the few set up so a last minute splurge from existing backers is a real possibility,

it's not as if there's a fixed buffet of stuff to pick from like a big CMON box game where there's a realistic limit unless people start buying duplicates,

there's an absolutely massive back catalogue of stuff you can pick up via the KS, and most of the existing backer know it (and probably have a fairly significant list of stuff they'd like but have yet to afford)

So given that and the happy community atmosphere it's all to easy to say, go on I can stretch for just one more host, just one big monster, just one unit of humans, i'm going to get them eventually anyway, if I toss the money in during the KS i'll get a better deal and i'll help out the group




Automatically Appended Next Post:
(well that's how it goes for me when I've got money to spend, an initial buy in for what I hope unlocks, some money added as more stuff unlocks or intermediate stretch goals are revealed, and then a dollop of cash at the end when I try and decide if I can push my budget for the next month or two)

I didn't think they offered the %off existing stock this time, I musta missed that.

I threw in on the last day as I'd just gotten a significant bonus I didn't know was coming. I was originally just in for 10 pounds to get access to the pledge manager. So that accounts for some of the bump. Hopefully that's OK without commenting on it first...I pretty always use my moneyback on finished items that are nearing their ship date in case anyone needs to know on I'm paying now when the stuff wont ship for a year+. I figure I'll pick some of these guys up in Savage Hordes 12 lol.

I imagine this one had a larger than normal share of fence sitters, as it almost didnt fund, and for whatever weird reason, people will only back if it's a sure thing.

I would've tossed in more but I was busy teaching. I usually do when I have the opportunity to.

At least I can always just access the KS section of the webstore when I get around to making an order.

 Boss Salvage wrote:
Admittedly I flipped out a little when I stumbled on that. Triple giant smashy croco dudes??? *the mind boggles*

2018: The year I admit I have a croco/gator-man problem but do nothing to fix it - tho at least some of it'll get painted

- Salvage

Looking forward to seeing what you do with them, Salvage!! I picked up Frenzied Srok a while back and love him, but I think the cohesive unit of 3 hammer-crocs will work better for your (monstrous KoW unit!?) purposes

Wouldn't you basically need two of the 80mm guys for a KoW block?

Srokk surprisingly left me feeling a little flat. Loved the big guy though.
My new favorite has been Golgogg. I'm curious to see what the new armored Fomoriac Ograx are going to turn out like.

Speaking of which, weren't the Ograx reivers supposed to have been finished, or getting close to it? Gotta turn that store credit into resin!

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Wouldn't you basically need two of the 80mm guys for a KoW block?

Srokk surprisingly left me feeling a little flat. Loved the big guy though.
My new favorite has been Golgogg. I'm curious to see what the new armored Fomoriac Ograx are going to turn out like.

Speaking of which, weren't the Ograx reivers supposed to have been finished, or getting close to it? Gotta turn that store credit into resin!

There is a bucket load of stuff from SH III that has not even been started yet...

http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=728

SH3 does appear to be the kickstarter that time forgot, with 8 months from successful funding, to the first release, Xet, who jumped the queue of backlogged minis.
Since then, just the bears have appeared, and not a sodding thing else.

This is what gets my goat, that was funded Sept 2016...it is now 2018, and the vast majority of minis have not even been sculpted!
Yet here we have some resculpts getting done...*sigh

Ya, my policy is if there's a figure I really want in the campaign wait until it's about to ship then buy it. Recently though with all the 25% off sales there's not much reason to even pledge and worry if it will ever deliver as it will be on sale shortly after release.

 Monkeysloth wrote:
Ya, my policy is if there's a figure I really want in the campaign wait until it's about to ship then buy it. Recently though with all the 25% off sales there's not much reason to even pledge and worry if it will ever deliver as it will be on sale shortly after release.

My thoughts exactly!

The KS "discount" is based off the mythical RRP, which is discounted 5% in the store anyway...

Great Axe Malacant was £45 KS price, is £60 (but really £57) Store price, so a 25% discount makes him £45 anyway (Discounts apply to the full RRP)

You may miss out when the model comes in larger than intended, and price increases, i.e. Xet was £40, but increased to £70, a HUGE increase.

But for the most part, just go "ooh, and "Ahh, and wait for the release date, the amount of interest you lose on a £500 pledge over 2 years...well, it's not insignificant.

"Oh, but if you don't pledge it won't get unlocked"

Riight, cos Mierce never run a "part deux" to unlock the leftovers...

Hey, I backed a lot of Mierce kickstarters, but with the 18 month delay, i won't anymore...not until i see that backlog massively reduced.

yxalitis wrote:

 Monkeysloth wrote:
Ya, my policy is if there's a figure I really want in the campaign wait until it's about to ship then buy it. Recently though with all the 25% off sales there's not much reason to even pledge and worry if it will ever deliver as it will be on sale shortly after release.

My thoughts exactly!

You may miss out when the model comes in larger than intended, and price increases, i.e. Xet was £40, but increased to £70, a HUGE increase.

Hey, I backed a lot of Mierce kickstarters, but with the 18 month delay, i won't anymore...not until i see that backlog massively reduced.

There's been several from the first few KSers that I got a killing out of like both the big dragons as well.

I should get a huge chunk of my backlog cleared out with the next wave of metals in the next month or so which will be nice. Come to think of it I think I only have like 4-5 figures from savage hordes 3 (Mallux, you always buy the Mallux to say on to good side of a certain Mod) and after that the only thing I'm interested in is the Formoric crustaceans that seam to on hold for cost reasons so I'm waiting till I see prints of them in an update before I buy. The falling Dollar to Pound has also put a damper on me wanting to buy as well. If I get a bunch painted this year I'll consider it but I can't just buy expensive stuff that will sit in a drawer for years any more.

I'm also in the "wait until it's sculpted to pay for it" group, as it's so hard to predict if a sculpt will be expedited (Xet) or take ages to be completed (Savrar units, which I almost backed heavily for, but thankfully ended up using the funds towards existing sculpts, instead).

With the majority of new models being digitally sculpted now, I'll likely adjust this to seeing a print, rather than a digital render, because the possible delay between those two points (whether due to printing cost or printing queue) seems quite high.

I commend those willing to back and wait an extremely long time... I'd just rather pay a bit more and know that what I'm backing for has been sculpted well, and is going to be produced in the near term. The risk is too high otherwise... even if it's only of me losing interest by the time it's ready (but of course sculpt quality, timing of the project I'm using it for, etc are all factors).

yxalitis wrote:

 Monkeysloth wrote:
Ya, my policy is if there's a figure I really want in the campaign wait until it's about to ship then buy it. Recently though with all the 25% off sales there's not much reason to even pledge and worry if it will ever deliver as it will be on sale shortly after release.

The KS "discount" is based off the mythical RRP, which is discounted 5% in the store anyway...

I struggled a bit with late pledging for the Crushers vs just waiting until they exist and a sale pops up (including that BOGO monster one from back when). I figured in the end that the KS price is technically better than nothing, and I'd hypothetically want these dudes asap for my 2018 army plans, and I don't have a great idea of when Mierce sales are, nor do I want to wait for those I remember (late summer then Nov/Dec) if these crocs actually ship in June ...

- Salvage

Yeah, I've totally added for things before they hit retail (as sometimes there's quite a gap between backers getting it and retail release on the website). I just like to make sure I'm in the "6 months or so until they're cast" window before doing so

Can get some bargains i you look around too:
https://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/miniatures/mierce-miniatures
https://www.gamekastle.com/online/index.php?skip=0&m=list&v=745&filters=stat:Yes,

The CMON Shop link only has one item in stock!

https://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/miniatures/mierce-miniatures/gynroch-ap-roch-wocor-of-powys-1.html

The Game Kastle link is much more impressive, and has quite a bit listed as 'in stock' - definitely worth checking out - thanks!

 Alpharius wrote:
The CMON Shop link only has one item in stock!

https://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/miniatures/mierce-miniatures/gynroch-ap-roch-wocor-of-powys-1.html

The Game Kastle link is much more impressive, and has quite a bit listed as 'in stock' - definitely worth checking out - thanks!

Yes, but it's half price!

CMON clearly aren't restocking after having to clear out the stock at such a discount!

Looking over the minis and prices...and comparing to other brands in the market...they really are too expensive...

Crap! Game Kastle's got every game/company under the sun, and most on discount! Too bad they're in CA, I hate paying those in state taxes. Can't believe I'd never heard of them. Great find Yx!

That Game Kastle link is...interesting.

IF their stock levels are true, they've got stuff in stock that I've had on order for...let's just say...quite some time now.

I think Mierce needed to stick to a few dozen awesome minis., and build a skirmish game around those, rather than the absolute hundreds of minis they have in their lineup.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 skullking wrote:
Crap! Game Kastle's got every game/company under the sun, and most on discount! Too bad they're in CA, I hate paying those in state taxes. Can't believe I'd never heard of them. Great find Yx!

Make sure it's not "pre order"

Holy crap I wish we got discounts like that in the UK.

Shh! Stop talking about Game Kastle!

I'm secretly trying to loot and pillage all their sale stuff before you all can get to it!

Game Kastle absorbed FRP into it. FRP were great for getting ridiculous discounts.

I got a 20 dollar LOTR war mammoth from them.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Shh! Stop talking about Game Kastle!

I'm secretly trying to loot and pillage all their sale stuff before you all can get to it!

Game Kastle absorbed FRP into it. FRP were great for getting ridiculous discounts.

I got a 20 dollar LOTR war mammoth from them.

The GW one? Ugh
Maatmag is way better, and another mini that jumped the queue.
But $20, that's amazing

http://www.coolminiornot.com/417123

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Shh! Stop talking about Game Kastle!

I'm secretly trying to loot and pillage all their sale stuff before you all can get to it!

Game Kastle absorbed FRP into it. FRP were great for getting ridiculous discounts.

I got a 20 dollar LOTR war mammoth from them.

Same!

My understanding was that FRP was gamecastle's online site and they just decided to consolodate and have a single branding.

Well if you clear them out, they might order more stock from mierce, that would help them too.

Wow, that Game Kastle link is awesome!! The discounts look reasonable to me for an online seller (i.e. not too steep, who really pays retail from an online 3rd party seller these days, anyway?).

It's fantastic to have a US seller like this, I had to close the link before buying stuff

I got some pretty good discounts on Mierce stuff from Element Games during one of their sales. I think it was Element. So at least some UK suppliers have that stuff too.

But as others have mentioned, with Mierce regularly running 25% off sales, or 50% clearance sales on their in-stock metals (which I tend to buy in preference to the resins where available), or BOGOF on their big monsters, I see no reason to take the less certain Kickstarter backer route.

I'd love to see a skirmish game set in their rather Slaine-ish universe but won't be playing Darklands any time soon.

Yeah, they should have taken the "Confrontation" route here, and had a warband skirmish scale game too, if not 'only'.

A 10 to 15 'man' group per side, with an approriate level of crunch would have been good, and would still have encouraged people buying multiple Kindreds worth of stuff, etc.

Now, we don't really have a game that anyone is playing, and Mierce does have that feeling of being supported largely by a group of (X) hardcore fans, with (X) being somewhere between 300 and 500 people?

I can't see myself buying too much more until the backlog is significantly reduced.

Which is a shame, because I absolutely love the miniatures and the setting.