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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 18:30:04
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Because the "top of their boots" is actually part of their trousers. They appear to have set them up so that they are "bloused" ala the US Airborne in WWII.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 18:35:46
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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I'm still not a fan of the space dwarves. Just don't get their aesthetic or fluff attraction.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 18:42:47
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Myrmidon Officer
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The Corporation Dossier e-mail got sent out. I somehow was able to download the pdf fine on my cellphone, but not my computer.
Images:
Action:
Marines:
Rangers:
Heavy Weapons:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 18:49:14
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
Milwaukee, WI
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Absolutionis wrote:The Corporation Dossier e-mail got sent out. I somehow was able to download the pdf fine on my cellphone, but not my computer.
I'm really getting an Imperial Guard (as in the first, Rogue Trader IG plastic set) vibe from these. Especially the Corporation Marines heads.
I sort of like it. If I wasn't thinking of starting to do 40k in tournaments I would think about buying them.
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18th Gamtilla Secundus Dragoon Guards Regiment: “The Lord Governor’s Own” |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 18:49:41
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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For those wanting to download it but are having no end of troubles, try this link;
http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e62f0c35454fa3ba687404d69/files/The_Corporation_Dossier.pdf
That should solve the problem (it did for me).
Edit: I like the look of them. The guns seem a little too big for them (they are much more realisticly scaled than GW, thank god... They have realistic looking legs!), but that is easily overcome, and I hope there is several different head choices as I am not too crazy on either atm.
Looks like a Brotherhood of Nod army might be on the cards after all!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 18:51:35
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Myrmidon Officer
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Uploaded images.
As an aside, I'm rather liking them. The paint job doesn't do them justice, but their weapons are a much better Lasgun, and they'd do well with a headswap.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 18:52:54
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
Milwaukee, WI
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These are going to be plastic (plastic-resin, whatever) and multipart with separate heads, right? E: ^- Ninja'ed -^
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18th Gamtilla Secundus Dragoon Guards Regiment: “The Lord Governor’s Own” |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 19:07:37
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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Yep, so far as I have heard.
Multiple options for heads. Special weapons also included.
Heavy Weapons teams have choice between Laser Cannon and Autocannon. Also, added in parts for squad leaders (energy fist and pistols).
Looks like a great starter set. Wouldn't be too difficult to add in other heavy weapons types from other sources. Wonder what the scale of 1:48 RPG's would be like. Possibly too thin.
Might go to alternative suppliers for the weapons though. Or trim theirs down somewhat, they just look a little too beefy for my liking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 19:09:50
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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I like the look, but I'm almost glad I don't like them more. I really dont' need another IG army.
Eventually mantic will release a Warpath range that I can actually build a 40k army out (that I don't already have), and I'll be in big trouble.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 19:17:05
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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They look nice. I could see me getting a few to use for IG vets, or maybe stormtroopers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 19:29:45
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Fenriswulf wrote:Looks like a Brotherhood of Nod army might be on the cards after all!
Well spotted!
These are really close to the C&C Nod designs, and that is definitely a good thing as far as evil sci-fi humans go.
I'm really liking that the models do look evil, you have the "faceless" troopers with the blank visor, and a lot of sharp angular elements as well as the pentagon design theme running through everything. (Also note the 5-pointed star on the leader and the Copyright symbol painted on to the heavy weapon).
Humans are the only "Evil" faction in the Warpath universe, which is one of the main things that will make the setting quite interesting, I think.
One of the things I never liked about 40k was how they dull down or dilute the atrocities committed by the Imperium and cast the mass-genocide/ extermination of all non-humans (even non-agressive ones) as being somehow utterly neccessary, and spin them as "the good guys" all the time (only a few of the better BL authors have bothered to do anything interesting or alternative on that note). It'll be nice to see the development of a game setting where the "humans = evil plague on the galaxy" thing is treated properly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 19:32:52
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
(THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK)
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Why. Why do they always have to be on one knee firing a canon. It looks ridiculous.
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Do you remember that time that thing happened?
This is a bad thread and you should all feel bad |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 19:35:59
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
Milwaukee, WI
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scarletsquig wrote: I'm really liking that the models do look evil, you have the "faceless" troopers with the blank visor, and a lot of sharp angular elements as well as the pentagon design theme running through everything. (Also note the 5-pointed star on the leader and the Copyright symbol painted on to the heavy weapon). Looks like a Sheriff's star (or since they look to be one-per-squad, Sergeant's insignia) and a "Company C" symbol to me. v  v And I don't see a pentagram theme? Can you give me some help seeing it?
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18th Gamtilla Secundus Dragoon Guards Regiment: “The Lord Governor’s Own” |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 19:38:45
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Wow, very disappointed by these. I liked the earlier Corporation stuff, but the limbs on these guys-- especially the arms on the Marines and legs on the Rangers-- look really "weedy" and disproportionate in comparison to the bulky armor. The poses (or lack thereof) don't help much either. Adding kneepads would have REALLY helped these sculpts, both in terms of realism and general aesthetics.
Ah well, I suppose more "budget IG" options aren't really unreasonable to ask for, and I do prefer these to the WGF greatcoats, but they could have been a lot more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 19:46:52
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Doctor Optimal wrote:
And I don't see a pentagram theme? Can you give me some help seeing it?
Pentagon theme, not pentagram.
Chest armour is made up of 2 pentagonal pieces. Shoulder pads have a pentagonal design if viewed from the side (on the basic marines) and from above (on the rangers). The faceplates are also clipped-down pentagons. It's easier to see if you download the .pdf to look at the larger images.
It's subtle, but it's there and quite interesting as a design. The forgefathers have a lot of hexagons in their armour design too if you look, the designer is definitely keeping a sharp eye on the geometry of each range.
especially the arms on the Marines and legs on the Rangers-- look really "weedy" and disproportionate in comparison to the bulky armor.
Accurate, true-scale 28mm, just like all of Mantic's stuff.
They're not heroic-scale like GWs, but if you compare these to another truescale sci-fi range like infinity/ at-43/ dust tactics the proportions aren't all that much different.
In fact, if you want your guardsmen to not be both larger and beefier than your space marines (like the GW ones are), then these are great, much closer to the excellent 2nd edition IG metals that the Perrys sculpted (and the plastic rogue trader guard).
Worth noting that the rangers have jump packs on their backs, too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 19:50:16
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
Milwaukee, WI
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scarletsquig wrote:Doctor Optimal wrote:
And I don't see a pentagram theme? Can you give me some help seeing it?
Pentagon theme, not pentagram.
Chest armour is made up of 2 pentagonal pieces. Shoulder pads have a pentagonal design if viewed from the side (on the basic marines) and from above (on the rangers). The faceplates are also clipped-down pentagons. It's easier to see if you download the .pdf to look at the larger images.
It's subtle, but it's there and quite interesting as a design. The forgefathers have a lot of hexagons in their armour design too if you look, the designer is definitely keeping a sharp eye on the geometry of each range.
 I saw pentagon but assumed you meant pentagram (since you were talking about the evil stuff). I do see the pentagon thing. A lot of good flat surfaces too, should paint up pretty well (better than the jobs in the pdf).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 19:50:45
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Very impressed by these! The best thing to have come out of Warpth so far. I couldn't think of any other paint scheme that would suit them best. I like the proportions, and the style.
WELL DONE MANTIC!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 20:03:42
Subject: Re:MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Basecoated Black
Spain
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I'm disappointed, too ... The sketches were really good, but the actual models seem way far from them...
scarletsquig wrote:
Accurate, true-scale 28mm, just like all of Mantic's stuff.
They're not heroic-scale like GWs, but if you compare these to another truescale sci-fi range like infinity/ at-43/ dust tactics the proportions aren't all that much different.
In fact, if you want your guardsmen to not be both larger and beefier than your space marines (like the GW ones are), then these are great, much closer to the excellent 2nd edition IG metals that the Perrys sculpted (and the plastic rogue trader guard).
I think these models are far away from real proportions, BTW, Infinity models are way better in that sense.
They are so close to the GW's off-proportions, but in other way: Their heads seem to be too big, the arms too long and the legs too short and skinny. The poses also seem a bit weird and unnatural to me...
However, trying to be positive, i'll wait until i can see some detailed photos of the actual pieces or assembled models without paint, because the pics from Mantic are terribles, like their paint jobs, and make decent models look awful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 20:10:59
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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The CM's don't look too bad but the rangers seem to have huge heads and shoulders. The ranger's guns look pretty cool, but I would have to chop off the barrel of the CM's guns. The CM's arms don't actually seem to be stuck onto the torsos on some of the models - it looks almost as if some of them have floating arms only connected by a couple of centimetres of tissue.
Overall the poses look kind of weak. And why do all their boots have little rivets on them?
I have to say as a general concept - 7/10, some of the details look cool, but some really bad ( IMO) design choices and sculpting/posing drag my score down to 5/10.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 20:12:54
Subject: Re:MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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I'll get a box of regular marines, they'll make excellent Rogue Trader mooks or space commies / nazis / murkins for 7TV.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 20:15:54
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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scarletsquig wrote:especially the arms on the Marines and legs on the Rangers-- look really "weedy" and disproportionate in comparison to the bulky armor.
Accurate, true-scale 28mm, just like all of Mantic's stuff.
What? Look at their guns. These definitely aren't any kind of realistic scale. Also, look at the bulkiness of the shoulder and torso armor in comparison to the rest of the body. Compare, for instance:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 20:23:00
Subject: Re:MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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No wait, not marines, but those recon guys, just need to swap them heads for something better.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 20:58:08
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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They are thin people but...
it is very likely that the human figure will have changed in a few thousand years.
The lascannon looks really nice
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 21:00:29
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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ChocolateGork wrote:it is very likely that the human figure will have changed in a few thousand years.
Aside from getting generally taller, it hasn't changed all that much in the last 50,000 or so...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 21:09:32
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Maybe it's the master race or something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 23:39:48
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Lord of the Fleet
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Ehh, they look ok. Probably wont get any though. Some weird mis mash of elysians and pig iron. I really hate the fists though, must they be on all sergeants?
ShumaGorath wrote:Why. Why do they always have to be on one knee firing a canon. It looks ridiculous.
Because then people will complain about this
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/28 00:55:06
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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Fetterkey wrote:scarletsquig wrote:especially the arms on the Marines and legs on the Rangers-- look really "weedy" and disproportionate in comparison to the bulky armor.
Accurate, true-scale 28mm, just like all of Mantic's stuff.
What? Look at their guns. These definitely aren't any kind of realistic scale. Also, look at the bulkiness of the shoulder and torso armor in comparison to the rest of the body. Compare, for instance:

Even though i agree with the rangers , your pic doesnt work, its taken from foot up, so perspectives.
But then again, we are comparing with GW too right? and Mantics have way better proportions anyways
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/28 01:46:54
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Plastictrees
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In the grim darkness of THIS far future humanity mostly wears jeggings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/28 01:52:45
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Dangerous Outrider
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Absolutionis wrote:The Corporation Dossier e-mail got sent out. I somehow was able to download the pdf fine on my cellphone, but not my computer.
Images:
Action:
Marines:
Rangers:
Heavy Weapons:

I like them. Not as Guard replacements, but for what they are, even the larger than normal helmets kind of work for me. Guess I may well get on the Mantic wagon at some point
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/28 04:20:11
Subject: MANTIC News thread! (Project Pandora tease, p.51)
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Fetterkey wrote:scarletsquig wrote:especially the arms on the Marines and legs on the Rangers-- look really "weedy" and disproportionate in comparison to the bulky armor.
Accurate, true-scale 28mm, just like all of Mantic's stuff.
What? Look at their guns. These definitely aren't any kind of realistic scale. Also, look at the bulkiness of the shoulder and torso armor in comparison to the rest of the body. Compare, for instance:

Thier gun looks like its based off the real world FN-F2000, not the M16 you pictured.
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