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Mobile field repairs.
You know if you have a unit of ogryns on the field, they are carrying atleast half a russ track with them, so if you need replacement, they are there.

Not sure how to take the release really to be honest.
I like my small guard army as it is, and dont want to have to spend out another few hundred £'s to get it legal again.

Aslong as chimera vets stay troop im happy.
Would also like the manticore, vanquisher and deathstrike to stay as they are since im not changing those either

If there is a kit option for it, it will stay.

I'm worried whether or not the Psychic Choir will remain and if so, if it can still take a Chimera.

That Taurox is the UGLIEST vehicle I have ever seen. Not to mention it doesn't fit within the current IG look-and-feel. Of course that turret is probably a 120 inch range D-Weapon - gotta have the over the top titan killer rules so people will buy that horrendous thing.

The Command Squad at $35 US is troublesome. That is a 40% increase over the $25 Command Squad today.

Also, I feel bad for the Aussies. While $50 US is already expensive for a codex, they have pricing which effectively makes the codex $75 US. I wonder how 40k is doing in the land of Oz.


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 Medium of Death wrote:
GW can't claim the name Leviathan.

I wonder if all these large kits really means that EPIC isn't coming back. Which is a shame as those fan made 30K HH EPIC tanks were amazing and I'd happily jump on the Heresy bandwagon in that scale.

Epic is indeed coming back. We are in the middle of witnessing it right now!

Of course, now it is in 28mm (so the titans can cost 5 times more than 6mm scale) and it used to be called Warhammer 40,000.

 Wayshuba wrote:
The Command Squad at $35 US is troublesome. That is a 40% increase over the $25 Command Squad today.

The Scion Command Squad is probably not meant to replace the standard Cadian Command box though.

I think its been priced in the same way that 5 Sternguard are £30 while the standard Tactical Marine squad of 10 is £25. You pay more for an Elite than a Troop choice.

Of course the Cadian Command can be either your HQ OR part of a Troop choice so my theory could be out of the window.

Vintersorg wrote:
That...

That... "thing" is the worst miniature GW ever come up with, not even worth on their '80 veichle design...

Blah, just blah...


Thinking it's the same company that produces the Imperial Knight....

Go figure.

That's what I was thinking. Even the deodorant bottle vehicle from Rogue Trader was better than that. Of course, I digress, because I forgot GW produces the BEST miniatures in the world.. at least according to them.

 Wayshuba wrote:
I wonder how 40k is doing in the land of Oz.

40k? Not bad.

GW? Awful.

Given other elements of the 40 universe that would have been great to see in plastic - spending time, effort and money on making that "truck" is criminal.............

The truck is growing on me. It's still ugly as sin... but I'm beginning to like it anyway.

 jonolikespie wrote:

 Wayshuba wrote:
I wonder how 40k is doing in the land of Oz.

40k? Not bad.

GW? Awful.

Depends where you live. 40k used to have a stranglehold out here, now it's hard to find a game.

Is there a page with more pics because page 1 only has one bullgryn and one orgryn?

Judging by the fact only two kits have leaked, somehow, I'm lead to two conclusions:

1) The person trying to take the photos was a lazy twit, who got bored halfway through taking photos in a magazine smaller than 50 pages

Or

2) There's a two part release going on with more kits being revealed in a second WDW, and likely the Hydra isn't part of a dual kit.

I really, really want to see Rough Riders. That is literally the only thing I want from this release in model form, the Stormies have caught my attention but I wasn't particularly interested in them in the first place.

I'll be really disappointed if we get those Ogryns nobody asked for and not Rough Riders. I'll have to go to Victoria Miniatures and give my money to them instead for that conversion kit. Considering all these stupid moves made to minimise the effect of that sort of behaviour I find that pretty humorous.

 Mr.Omega wrote:

I'll be really disappointed if we get those Ogryns nobody asked for and not Rough Riders.

Well, I hated the old Ogryns, and if I wanted to make Rough Riders I'd do the cadians-on-scout-bikes thing. Don't get your hopes up for new Rough Riders as none of the rumour-mongers seem to have mentioned them.

Why do people want models for units that very few people ever use because they have atrocious rules?

I mean, even in the most fluffiest beer n pretzels games, I've never seen anyone whip out some rough riders..

I have and it wasn't even fluffy (wel lthey died fluffily and messily).

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Why do people want models for units that very few people ever use because they have atrocious rules?

I mean, even in the most fluffiest beer n pretzels games, I've never seen anyone whip out some rough riders..

Rough Riders are cool, and besides, they will presumably get updated rules in the new codex.

I use a squad of Rough Riders (DKOK) with Mougl, and they do quite well, they can kill anything on the 1st charge (aside from special characters and terminators) Sure they die alot before they are able to get in charge distance, but for 140 points its worth the excitement!

Mr.Omega wrote:Judging by the fact only two kits have leaked, somehow, I'm lead to two conclusions:

1) The person trying to take the photos was a lazy twit, who got bored halfway through taking photos in a magazine smaller than 50 pages

Or

2) There's a two part release going on with more kits being revealed in a second WDW, and likely the Hydra isn't part of a dual kit.

I really, really want to see Rough Riders. That is literally the only thing I want from this release in model form, the Stormies have caught my attention but I wasn't particularly interested in them in the first place.

I'll be really disappointed if we get those Ogryns nobody asked for and not Rough Riders. I'll have to go to Victoria Miniatures and give my money to them instead for that conversion kit. Considering all these stupid moves made to minimise the effect of that sort of behaviour I find that pretty humorous.

We've had 4 kits leaked. Stormtroopers, the Ogryn, The Hydra, and the abomination of the Omnissiah.

BlaxicanX wrote:Why do people want models for units that very few people ever use because they have atrocious rules?

I mean, even in the most fluffiest beer n pretzels games, I've never seen anyone whip out some rough riders..

That's because GW doesn't make any Rough Rider models that look decent anymore. To run them, you either have to buy the ugly as sin originals off the collector's page, buy FW models that probably don't fit with your army, or spend a ton of time converting them with 3rd party bits.

It's not like Penal Legion where you can slap down 10 guardsmen and they're a perfect proxy. That's why they're so rare (well, that and the rules really are terrible)

Who knows, maybe we'll see some decent rules for them in the new cod- pffffff sorry couldn't keep a straight face

 Crimson wrote:
Rough Riders are cool, and besides, they will presumably get updated rules in the new codex.

Only if there is an accompanying model and I'm not seeing them on the main GW site at the moment so that means they'd need a new kit. I'm not convinced we will see a new kit, thus no rules for them outside of death korps rules.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Why do people want models for units that very few people ever use because they have atrocious rules?

I mean, even in the most fluffiest beer n pretzels games, I've never seen anyone whip out some rough riders..

This makes little sense... people who like rough riders obviously want better rules to go along with models so they have reason to use them.

Was there anything new in yesterdays WD ?

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Why do people want models for units that very few people ever use because they have atrocious rules?

I mean, even in the most fluffiest beer n pretzels games, I've never seen anyone whip out some rough riders..

This makes little sense... people who like rough riders obviously want better rules to go along with models so they have reason to use them.

Nevermind the fact that there's the delusion that the main reason for desiring new models is rules effectiveness, which is a bit laughable. There is so much potential for cool models with Rough Riders it is unbelievable.

Its about as silly as casual players that get peeved with the idea that competitive players only wait for new model releases for an excuse to smash new players and drive the hobby into the ground.

You'd have a point if I hadn't specifically brought up that I don't even see them get played in fluffy games. As it stands, them having ass rules is only half of it, the other half is that, as far as I can tell, they just aren't a very popular Guard unit in general.

I see them played all the time. A friend of mine has a unit in his Guard army that he uses regularly. He likes them so he uses them. Funny how that works.

I'm sure he'll be annoyed if they get dropped from the next Codex but that's GW for you.

i will use them weather or not they are in the new codex, who is going to stop me?

jae4x4 wrote:
i will use them weather or not they are in the new codex, who is going to stop me?

My guess would be the person you are trying to play against or the store/club/tournament you are playing in.

 ]MrMoustaffa wrote:

Mr.Omega wrote:

Who knows, maybe we'll see some decent rules for them in the new cod- pffffff sorry couldn't keep a straight face

Death Riders are decent, if the RR have matching rules, you might see e'm just a tiny bit more often.

Well, the Rough Riders are no where on the GW site, so the rumor of them getting dropped completely from a while ago may be true.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

jae4x4 wrote:
i will use them weather or not they are in the new codex, who is going to stop me?

My guess would be the person you are trying to play against or the store/club/tournament you are playing in.

my opponent will stop me from using a "bad" unit? ill just use the DKOK list feth GW

I really want good RR units with solid rules. I'm not asking for cheese just good models with solid rules. I want a rough rider army so I can field Theodore Roosevelt on a dirt bike shooting twin plasma pistols into the air with George Washington leading a unit of storm troopers while Abe Lincoln commands a tank squadron!

I need my fantasy to work, I need it.

I'd be happy with a boost in toughness or the ability to give them carapace armour.