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2021/10/29 22:27:23
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!!!
ottokill wrote: I've been looking all over for comparison pics of IWM, Catalyst miniatures, and MWDA. Is the MWDA cougar huge compared to the others? Are there any comparison pics floating around. Some of the MWDA have to be suitable for BT and Alpha Strike. I plan on rebasing most of my MWDA if they are suitable or close to the others. The infantry seem fine. Cheers and a happy weekend.
MW clicky minis are like twice the size of BT minis, and for no reason the Cougar is hilariously larger even than that. You could certainly use them for AS with the right sized terrain and probably modifying the measurements (or not), but MW minis are not going to fit on a standard map sheet.
The infantry are basically the same size as the IWM offerings and totally usable. Cheaper to get in some instances.
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The original Mercenaries Handbook covers that quite neatly. You could try the rules in Strategic Operations but they will bog you down a lot and are best for RPG.
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2021/11/02 22:13:51
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!
So my group is getting ready for an ilClan grinder style game. Free for all, everybody shows up with a light, medium, heavy and assault. Start with lights, and when they go down your next mech comes in.
I haven't used too much of the advanced technology- but as a Jade Falcon fan, I'm looking at running mostly their mechs.
I'm torn on assaults- the Turkina X looks great, and the ability to do a Talon assisted DFA is quite tempting.
But- I also think a tough mech would really help- and the Onager II has that regenerating armor from Harjel II.
Finally, because it's new and super shiny, the absurd maneuverability of the Jade Phoenix A, and it's pulse laser +Ultra Ac/20 array looks devastating.
Which of those mechs do you think would be best in a grand melee, free for all situation?
And how effective is Harjel II in practice?
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2021/11/02 23:37:46
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!
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2021/11/03 06:38:59
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!
I never really had a chance to get in on the Kickstarter, however, I have been fortunate to collect some of the results.
I currently have 20 Inner Sphere mechs of CGL plastic, 20 Inner Sphere mechs from Ironwind Metals, 15 Clan mechs from Ironwind Metals, 14 mechs from the 3rd Ed boxset (recently rebased), and 1 from 2nd Ed Citytech.
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2021/11/03 06:48:11
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!
Gitzbitah wrote: So my group is getting ready for an ilClan grinder style game. Free for all, everybody shows up with a light, medium, heavy and assault. Start with lights, and when they go down your next mech comes in.
I haven't used too much of the advanced technology- but as a Jade Falcon fan, I'm looking at running mostly their mechs.
I'm torn on assaults- the Turkina X looks great, and the ability to do a Talon assisted DFA is quite tempting.
But- I also think a tough mech would really help- and the Onager II has that regenerating armor from Harjel II.
Finally, because it's new and super shiny, the absurd maneuverability of the Jade Phoenix A, and it's pulse laser +Ultra Ac/20 array looks devastating.
Which of those mechs do you think would be best in a grand melee, free for all situation?
And how effective is Harjel II in practice?
Harjel isn't very good at all. It might be useful on some uber specific mech like one designed for underwater combat but in general it's kinda crap.
sure it COULD improve survivability but you're talking something that repairs 2 points of damage to it's location. that's not a whole lot and 2 tons can be a lot (thats 2 Medium lasers, or 1 pulse laser for example)
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2021/11/03 07:34:50
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!
I have a footlocker sized container full of CBT minis.
The downside...most of them are metal so it is kind of heavy.
I was somewhat underwhelmed by the amount of mechs you get for the volume of packaging. My Battletech came in three huge boxes, but was condensable down into two Clan Invasion boxes full of mechs, well less than a footlocker.
3d print instead. You will typically need a lot of terrain pieces to do justice to it, .stls in 6mm are commonplace, many of the better ones are free. KLifts of high rises from computer games, actual architectural models and some made for purpose for 6mm wargaming. You can widen that by rescaling.
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2021/11/03 09:58:11
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!
aphyon wrote: I have a footlocker sized container full of CBT minis.
The downside...most of them are metal so it is kind of heavy.
Orlanth wrote: Is that all you got? I was expecting proper whaledom from all the noises.
Oh this is just the Wave 2 Kickstarter stuff.
I haven't organised them into my cases, which is currently 2 of the big Sabol Division cases and another one of their smaller cases. I'll be just shy of 500 when this is all said and done. Going to spend a bit of time this weekend getting everything organised and into foam.
aphyon wrote: I am thinking of getting some of this terrain to add to my collection.
I've been thinking of 3D hex terrain as well. I like map sheets, but having a few obvious buildings that are scaled correctly couldn't hurt.
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3d print instead. You will typically need a lot of terrain pieces to do justice to it, .stls in 6mm are commonplace, many of the better ones are free. KLifts of high rises from computer games, actual architectural models and some made for purpose for 6mm wargaming. You can widen that by rescaling.
That would kind of require me to have a 3d printer. as i do not, and have no plans to get one. i can buy them from somebody who does.
mostly i have been getting my scale terrain from brigade models.
But i want something a little bit more high tech looking to add to it. hense the hextech.
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2021/11/03 13:50:24
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!
aphyon wrote: I am thinking of getting some of this terrain to add to my collection.
I've been thinking of 3D hex terrain as well. I like map sheets, but having a few obvious buildings that are scaled correctly couldn't hurt.
As a terrain master, I'm curious what you considered 'scaled correctly' for CBT terrain. I love the look of a lot of what's out there but I can't make up my mind as to what looks 'right', trying to go with mini-scale buildings on map sheets that look huge or map scale scenery that the mechs tower over. Adding 3D terrain to map sheets kinda breaks the whole thing for me. I've had the same issue with dropships, I'd love to do one or two for dioramas or scene-setting for my forces, but a map scale ship is more useful for gaming.
I took a picture of a rebased MWDA clix Mjolnir. If anyone has a different Mjolnir(IWM, etc.) could you please post a picture of it next to a ruler for comparison. I would like to see if some of the MWDA mechs are usable with the others. Thanks.
2021/11/04 16:26:03
Subject: Re:Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!
3d print instead. You will typically need a lot of terrain pieces to do justice to it, .stls in 6mm are commonplace, many of the better ones are free. Lifts of high rises from computer games, actual architectural models and some made for purpose for 6mm wargaming. You can widen that by rescaling.
That would kind of require me to have a 3d printer. as i do not, and have no plans to get one. i can buy them from somebody who does.
Reconsider joining the 3d printer party, it might be your Ham and Gren Eggs, something you currently really don't want to do but love when you try.
Second consider mooching of someone else you know who does. You can only do commercial casts with a merchant licence, but a personal licence can be used to make 3d prints for friends. Pay him in beer, or paint one of his minis for him etc.
The biggest benefit of mooching is finding out how awesome a hobby 3d printing is, and getting some familiarity with the process.
I came late to the 3d print party, and wish I bought in earlier.
As a terrain master, I'm curious what you considered 'scaled correctly' for CBT terrain. I love the look of a lot of what's out there but I can't make up my mind as to what looks 'right', trying to go with mini-scale buildings on map sheets that look huge or map scale scenery that the mechs tower over. Adding 3D terrain to map sheets kinda breaks the whole thing for me. I've had the same issue with dropships, I'd love to do one or two for dioramas or scene-setting for my forces, but a map scale ship is more useful for gaming.
I can help here.
Hexmaps are great for convenience and I do use them.
But for miniatures gaming 3up the map scale to make real scale. i.e 6mm. This is what was recommended for miniatures gaming in the old school Battletech Compendium.
I do something similar but choose 5cm per 'hex'/point of range. This is a neat halfway between official ground scale and map scale, you can use proper ground scale vehicles and buildings, and the combat scale seems fair. It works very well and allows you to have a terrain filled battlefield without being over or undersized.
TLDR: 1:1 too small, 3:1 too big, 2:1 just right
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It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
2021/11/04 18:06:26
Subject: Re:Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!
As a terrain master, I'm curious what you considered 'scaled correctly' for CBT terrain. I love the look of a lot of what's out there but I can't make up my mind as to what looks 'right', trying to go with mini-scale buildings on map sheets that look huge or map scale scenery that the mechs tower over. Adding 3D terrain to map sheets kinda breaks the whole thing for me. I've had the same issue with dropships, I'd love to do one or two for dioramas or scene-setting for my forces, but a map scale ship is more useful for gaming.
I can help here.
Hexmaps are great for convenience and I do use them.
But for miniatures gaming 3up the map scale to make real scale. i.e 6mm. This is what was recommended for miniatures gaming in the old school Battletech Compendium.
I do something similar but choose 5cm per 'hex'/point of range. This is a neat halfway between official ground scale and map scale, you can use proper ground scale vehicles and buildings, and the combat scale seems fair. It works very well and allows you to have a terrain filled battlefield without being over or undersized.
TLDR: 1:1 too small, 3:1 too big, 2:1 just right
Thanks for the input, that is helpful. I've looked at some of the Miniatures Rules iterations over the years and certainly thought that was there 3D terrain made the most sense. I think I'm content to leave 3D buildings out of my map sheet games for now, even if some of the models are quite nice.
aphyon wrote: mostly i have been getting my scale terrain from brigade models.
I have a ton of these and love them!
Indeed great company, i have their micro scale naval stuff for use with victory at sea as well.
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2021/11/05 15:42:14
Subject: Re:Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!
ottokill wrote: I took a picture of a rebased MWDA clix Mjolnir. If anyone has a different Mjolnir(IWM, etc.) could you please post a picture of it next to a ruler for comparison. I would like to see if some of the MWDA mechs are usable with the others. Thanks.
While I don't have a model of Mewmew, I did measure a couple of my Ironwind models to help some people understand the scale.
And since the Mewmew is a light mech, it's probably pretty close to the Fireball I have.
Our group has some people who still have their MWDA collections, and bring the Vehicles out from time to time. The base you have on it is pretty close to the base on the Fireball, Banshee, and Gauntlet pictured above, so other than being larger than life for a Light mech, it fits on the table better than a few of the other Ironwind models like the Tarantula or Poseidon.
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2021/11/05 20:42:01
Subject: Re:Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!