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Hey guys, update from the comments, Prodos listened and the free model will now be to everyone at £75 or over if we hit 2000 backers.

Here's the quote:

Prodos wrote:Ok chaps, so this has induced more negativity than we thought. To explain 873 pledgers, when some one pledges they get a unique number, if they then drop out its not retro filled. On WZR we ended with pledge number 2017, but actually 931 pledgers.
Anyway, I write in bold not to shout, instead for all to see: THE OFFER IN UPDATE 6 WILL BE REPLACED WITH IF WE GET TO 2000 COMPLETED PLEDGERS ALL PLEDGERS AT £75 or MORE WILL RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL £10 OF ADD ONS

So, I know we're not all perfectly pleased with how they're running the campaign, but they are listening!

I also just posted and emailed them this question. I have a feeling I won't be eligible for the free model as I am at "Anytime" with all add-ons, but I figured it was worth asking. They're probably making more money off me than anyone else since I'm only getting a dozen models . So yeah, worth asking!

Hi Prodos,

Regarding the free model if we hit 2000 backers- does this apply to anyone pledging a monetary value of £75 or more, as written, or only to "We're in the Pipe, Five by Five" and up pledge levels?

I.e., I am at Anytime but have pledged £130 (6 PredAliens, 6 Hounds, 3 Dice Sets). So I am just wondering if I will qualify for that. Since you probably will clarify it in the next update, I thought you could clarify it all in one go.

Cheers,
Steve Garber / RiTides

Interesting, we'll see whether or not 2k is a viable number.

2K seems high right now. I hope they do hit it.

Like I said before, I'm sure things will kick up a notch when certain news sites get air of this.

 BrookM wrote:
Like I said before, I'm sure things will kick up a notch when certain news sites get air of this.

You fill in those 'certain news sites' yourself then?

 Alpharius wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Like I said before, I'm sure things will kick up a notch when certain news sites get air of this.

You fill in those 'certain news sites' yourself then?

feth if I know what kind of sites run this stuff. AvP fan places? Didn't Waging Hewoes also get a (ego) boost when they got coverage from a site or two?

If the promotion elsewhere, was as vague as this one was at the start, then that might stop a few folks from joining in, that might otherwise invest.

Penny Arcade? Board Game Geeks?

Honestly this KS should be huge. Come retail release with single piece coloured plastic it should do very well all over again.

True enough I suppose. Plus judging from a comments there are a few people who aren't super pleased that Warzone is as of yet not still wrapped up, so there's always that bit.


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Update # 7 - http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/513277403/alien-vs-predator-the-miniatures-game/posts/657479

The £130000 Stretch Goal: to unlock the Add-on: Sentry Guns x2



So we have now unlocked the Free KS Exclusive Berserker Predator. Each and every Pledge of 'In the Pipe' or higher will receive one!



And our Extra Target (inplace of Update 6). If we get 2000 pledgers or more all pledgers of 'In the Pipe' get an extra £10 of extras for free.

And finally Prodos took a trip to one of our local stores yesterday, here are their snaps of some of the AVP Models: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.618366844887680.1073741845.381219471935753&type=1

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Bit annoyed that the sentry gun image is just a picture of the props and not a render..

The lack of renders beyond the first lot is starting to concern me considering this must release by May (according to their licence apparently) and that a lot of work was supposed to have been done already there seems to still be lot of work to get done and it's not really going to happen during the relatively short KS run.

Right, seems they are listening. I don't know if 2K pledgers is such an optimistic goal; close to half on the first few days, and I'm sure something like this (especially without all kinds of early bird shenanigans!) will draw a significant burst of backing in the last few days, as well.

Definitely think this could benefit from having cross-format advertising, this has the potential to bring in a lot of 'casuals' who wouldn't normally go near miniature games.

So is the refer a friend bonus out?

 Bolognesus wrote:
Right, seems they are listening. I don't know if 2K pledgers is such an optimistic goal; close to half on the first few days, and I'm sure something like this (especially without all kinds of early bird shenanigans!) will draw a significant burst of backing in the last few days, as well.

Things tend to slow down markedly after the first 48 to 72 hours of a kickstarter and then pickup in the last 48 to 72. It'll likely take them a while (two weeks?) to get 2000 backers.

Going to be a close cut then, seeing as this campaign runs for just 20 days.

Yes cincy, or rather, replaced by the 2000 backers goal.

I've realized that I'll get a better deal on my "add-ons only" approach if I combine with someone's pledge, so I've PM'ed Alpharius about that . I don't need the stretch goals since I'm picking and choosing what I want (right now, just PredAliens, Hounds, and dice) and it's a better deal for me to combine with someone buying the game.

So hopefully Alpharius is up for that, and if not I may end up posting here to see if someone is up for combining with me (ideally someone currently at the £125 level).

 warboss wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:
Right, seems they are listening. I don't know if 2K pledgers is such an optimistic goal; close to half on the first few days, and I'm sure something like this (especially without all kinds of early bird shenanigans!) will draw a significant burst of backing in the last few days, as well.

Things tend to slow down markedly after the first 48 to 72 hours of a kickstarter and then pick up in the last 48 to 72. It'll likely take them a while (two weeks?) to get 2000 backers.

I know... But most projects gain more in the last 3 days than the first 3, from what I've seen.
Now this has been advertised in advance a bit which tends to front load pledging, but OTOH no early birds, and a very big pool of thus-far both unfamiliar with prodos and not wargaming-forum-going potential backers leads me to believe that trend will be present in this project as well.

Yes I don't think this KS will be standard in the way it progresses at all - think it might take a while to get word out for it (and really, my main criticism for the project at this point is that it needs some more marketing/advertising $ spent on it), but also as it becomes a better deal in terms of extra minis those who have been sitting on the fence for financial reasons might be more inclined to pledge.

Seeing the sentry gun above I am again amazed why nearly all pics of actual models are slightly out of focus and with way too little depth.

This KS could do better IMO with an improved presentation.
But maybe it is already doing well enough...

Not sure about those sentries, maybe fan repros?

Not a huge fan of the sentry guns, they look rather generic. Hopefully the Royal Guard look good (wonder if there will be a pic of any kind?). After that it's a long slog through 3 game component related stretches (interspersed by one Alien stretch) before the final Predator / Marines / Alien / Alien finish on the chart.

TBH there is not really that much to those sentry guns, bearing in mind they didn't even make it into the theatrical release of the movie. So, hopefully pretty difficult to get wrong!

Regarding the highest pledge level

---"… Gᴀᴍᴇ Oᴠᴇʀ Mᴀɴ, Gᴀᴍᴇ Oᴠᴇʀ!"--- Prodos Games will sculpt your face and head and make you 100 copies to use on any 28mm-sized Prodos Games model + Free "ᖘᴀʏʙᴀᴄᴋ ᴛɪᴍᴇ" and "ᗩɴʏᴛɪᴍᴇ" rewards (~$600).

If money was no issue, I would so get myself sculpted as chest-burster victim

The Facebook page has (at the time of this post) 5,500 'likes', whilst the KS backers total just 854... Hopefully there will be a rush to pledge as more goals get unlocked and / or some more renders appear. No doubt there are lot of folk piggy-backing on others pledges, you only need one copy of game between several players and this way they just buy the figures they want...

I do think a £1.00 pledge level that then allowed you to buy the add-ons would have been majorly beneficial for this KS. I'm about to go for that level on the Mars Attacks KS so that I can Martian Dredd and few other bits...

I've a feeling the stretch goal chart isn't final and there are more than the 6 ??? goals left before the Queen - notice how the last one doesn't link to the Queen like the others do. Depending on how this does they will probably add more slots to the chart and the Queen will get pushed back until near the end.

I think I'll pass on the Sentry guns too easy to proxy with other models (I have 6 SW Havoks) I'll save the money for something else.

 AAN wrote:
Seeing the sentry gun above I am again amazed why nearly all pics of actual models are slightly out of focus and with way too little depth.

This KS could do better IMO with an improved presentation.
But maybe it is already doing well enough...

Couldn`t agree more, Additionally I just cannot imagine the fine parts of the sentry gun coming out good in a cast. Too delicate.

 Ruglud wrote:

I do think a £1.00 pledge level that then allowed you to buy the add-ons would have been majorly beneficial for this KS. I'm about to go for that level on the Mars Attacks KS so that I can Martian Dredd and few other bits...

If they did that they'd potentially take a huge hit on shipping , t

the £10 level allows them to pay for it and they do give you the rules pdf as a sweetener

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

 Ruglud wrote:

I do think a £1.00 pledge level that then allowed you to buy the add-ons would have been majorly beneficial for this KS. I'm about to go for that level on the Mars Attacks KS so that I can Martian Dredd and few other bits...

If they did that they'd potentially take a huge hit on shipping , t

the £10 level allows them to pay for it and they do give you the rules pdf as a sweetener

Ahh, good point - I overlooked the US postage of £10... Works for US buyers, but not for UK - already get free postage, then you have to pay £10 for a PDF...

Not just the US, but rest of the world as well.

You know what, for some reason I thought the RoW P&P was more than £10 !! Oh the joy of being British for AvP

Thanfully it's £10 for every place but the UK, unlike other companies with their "arm and a leg and a spleen" shipping fees.


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Also, the USCM Medic is the female marine with the incinerator, so no new model.